The Changing Pace Of Cycling
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-bike7-2008may07,0,3555170.story
People gravitating toward more cycling for alternative to using a car. Please hurry to be able to read this article. I don't know how long you will be able to read it. |
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Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne
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This has already been posted.
Not on this particular forum. Perhaps you were confused by this similar one posted on 2 different forums-seen also on the Folding Bike forum: http://wwww.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=415242 |
I liked the quote at the start of the article "A commuter on his way home carries his bike as he approaches the Brooklyn Bridge. The number of bicyclists in New York City has grown by 75% during the last seven years."
I wonder if this is the case in North America? I see more cyclists in my town... but I'm not sure if they are just joy-riding or what. |
Originally Posted by gerv
(Post 6668139)
I liked the quote at the start of the article "A commuter on his way home carries his bike as he approaches the Brooklyn Bridge. The number of bicyclists in New York City has grown by 75% during the last seven years."
I wonder if this is the case in North America? I see more cyclists in my town... but I'm not sure if they are just joy-riding or what. |
Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 6669117)
In some areas, the number of cyclists is so great that it's almost a pain in the *ss. (Hard to find a free bike rack, hard to pass people in the bike lane on busy arterials, etc.) I'm also not sure if they're just joy-riding or not, but I suspect that they are not. Most of them have a load of some sort, and some of them are carrying big loads. In general, I view this as a positive development, but, in addition to bike parking hassles, there has been a downside: motorists have become a bit more hostile.
Be very careful what you wish for. |
Originally Posted by ******es getting a clue
But with rising oil prices and heightened concern about carbon emissions, riding a bicycle no longer seems quite so silly.
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I to have noticed an increase in number of cyclist in the past couple of years, it used to be I would see only one other rider maybe once a week when I got off at midnight. Now I usually see at least 2 a night. I can’t believe that they are doing 20mph on the sidewalks:eek:, in Houston, you will go airborne with our uneven sidewalks if you aren’t killed by a car turning right first.
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Originally Posted by Chris L
(Post 6669471)
I have similar concerns about suddenly increasing the number of cyclists on the roads with many of them lacking training, experience, or even a clue in a lot of cases. There is the issue of bike parking as discussed, I have already seen instances of "cycle rage" (which looks a lot like road rage), then there is the issue of cycle gridlock, which looks a lot like conventional gridlock, except that it's likely to be impregnable even to a cyclist. There is the possibility of being made to pay a registration fee if the number of cyclists increases to a point that it might actually be profitable. Then there is the danger of getting into a Netherlands-style situation where cyclists are banned from many roads, which ultimately makes it harder to get around on a bike.
Be very careful what you wish for. One of the things we're all forgetting is that, at the moment, we are a very small, odd, quirky minority that barely matters to the general public. As our numbers increase, so does our profitability; and governmental entities are going to be quick to notice. You want bicycles to be as ubiquitous as cars? Terrific. Expect the charges, enforcements, taxes and other annoying factors to become equally ubiquitous. Right now we get a free ride because we're too small to matter. |
Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 6669117)
The number of bicyclists in Seattle has increased dramatically in the last year or so. It used to be that I could ride to work and be the only cyclist I saw the entire way. Now I literally can't ride anywhere without seeing cyclists everywhere. On my way to work today, I saw at least 10 other riders, and it's only a two-mile ride. In some areas, the number of cyclists is so great that it's almost a pain in the *ss. (Hard to find a free bike rack, hard to pass people in the bike lane on busy arterials, etc.) I'm also not sure if they're just joy-riding or not, but I suspect that they are not. Most of them have a load of some sort, and some of them are carrying big loads. In general, I view this as a positive development, but, in addition to bike parking hassles, there has been a downside: motorists have become a bit more hostile. Not all; not even most. But more than before. My guess is that it's because they're frustrated with the huge increase in cyclists, and because many of these cyclists don't realize that traffic laws apply to them, too.
So I guess there are really many factors converging here. Maybe the price of gas is just one trigger. |
Originally Posted by Chris L
(Post 6669471)
Then there is the danger of getting into a Netherlands-style situation where cyclists are banned from many roads, which ultimately makes it harder to get around on a bike.
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Originally Posted by Chris L
(Post 6669471)
I have similar concerns about suddenly increasing the number of cyclists on the roads with many of them lacking training, experience, or even a clue in a lot of cases. There is the issue of bike parking as discussed, I have already seen instances of "cycle rage" (which looks a lot like road rage), then there is the issue of cycle gridlock, which looks a lot like conventional gridlock, except that it's likely to be impregnable even to a cyclist. There is the possibility of being made to pay a registration fee if the number of cyclists increases to a point that it might actually be profitable. Then there is the danger of getting into a Netherlands-style situation where cyclists are banned from many roads, which ultimately makes it harder to get around on a bike.
Be very careful what you wish for. My memories of biking around Amsterdam and Haarlem don't include "harder to get around on a bike." I remember some places where bikes were banned and some places where I had to look for parking. I guess I never figured out how to cross the Amstel river, I think bikes were banned from the obvious car route. Judging by the ease of getting around I'm pretty confident if I really wanted to get across and I asked guy at the centraal station bike rental booth he could direct me. That was more than a decade ago maybe biking in Amsterdam is more of a hassle now? |
I worry about all the new cyclists (and there are a lot of them!). They either ride on the sidewalk, where they present a danger to pedestrians and to themselves. Or they ride foolishly in the street--on the wrong side, or even worse, all over the place.
When I was a kid, we learned bicycle safety--including traffic riding--in grade school. Most people under 40 or so don't have a clue that it's even permitted for cyclists to ride as traffic in the streets. |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 6680781)
When I was a kid, we learned bicycle safety--including traffic riding--in grade school. |
Originally Posted by gwd
(Post 6681450)
So did I.
Aaron:) |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 6680781)
I worry about all the new cyclists (and there are a lot of them!). They either ride on the sidewalk, where they present a danger to pedestrians and to themselves. Or they ride foolishly in the street--on the wrong side, or even worse, all over the place.
When I was a kid, we learned bicycle safety--including traffic riding--in grade school. Most people under 40 or so don't have a clue that it's even permitted for cyclists to ride as traffic in the streets. |
Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 6681971)
Ah, just look at it as a market opportunity. Get your LCI license and put out ads in the local arts weekly and make money while helping the situation. :thumb:
Aaron:) |
Target was nearly wiped out of bikes today. They had some kids' bikes, two Schwinn "Jaguar"-branded cruisers, and one 700C flat-bar roadster (with plastic brake lever housings, no less :twitchy:). Besides those, there were maybe 40 empty spaces on the sales racks, whereas two months ago they had plenty of bikes.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
(Post 6682512)
Target was nearly wiped out of bikes today. They had some kids' bikes, two Schwinn "Jaguar"-branded cruisers, and one 700C flat-bar roadster (with plastic brake lever housings, no less :twitchy:). Besides those, there were maybe 40 empty spaces on the racks, whereas two months ago they had plenty of bikes.
Aaron:) |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 6682739)
Same thing around here at WM and KM. The bus racks in the morning are full of the low end bikes, with plenty more of the chained to trees, street sign posts and benches around the bus stops.
Aaron:) |
Originally Posted by BarracksSi
(Post 6682819)
That's true at many Metro subway stops around here, too. Actually, there's one that I pass by on the way to work that has some bike lockers but NO bike racks -- but nearly every sign, tree, and post around the perimeter would have a bike locked up.
Aaron:) |
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