Roody

A lot of people walk in suburbs around here also. But virtually all of them walk for exercise or relaxation. Almost none walk to actually get from Point A to Point B.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I walk for exercise and relaxation also. But the distances are very large in sprawled out American suburbs. They are nothing like the idyllic village suburbs that you have described many times on this forum. If you walk for transportation in an American suburb, it would be an all day activity to get to the grocery store. Then you would still have to walk home the next day. And you would walk a mile out of your way to reach a crosswalk across the eight lane highway on which they built the supermarket.

Machka 

I would venture a guess that most people I see walking walk for exercise and relaxation too. We currently live in a beach town/suburb so lots of people (including us) walk down to the beach and walk along the beach. Some will walk up and down the hills behind us for fitness, I'm guessing. And a few will walk to the little shopping area right near where we live or the cafes and restaurants at the beach.

Roody

Study: spending time in nature lifts mood, may prevent depression (VIDEO).

Lil Bear

I have never been, ever, in an area where I could not walk to a place that had groceries in more than an hour. If you live somewhere that is not possible, you have failed as a home buyer and a logical human being at making a good decision. Everyone that reads your post just got a little bit dumber, and for that I award you zero points. Is urban sprawl bad? Yes, it is! But, seriously... if you buy a home in a subdivision of a city and have no access to businesses (at all) for miles and miles... well, that's on you. Make better decisions. If you're just trolling, zip it. Sprawled out American suburbs are a product of poor decision making. There's three options to use... 1) don't ever live in one 2) don't admit you live in one 3) don't talk about them unless someone asks. I'd like to read about how people have no sense of distance, or how they learn they can walk and bike more once they start. So, let's get back on topic.

doublegg66

I work three miles from home,takes from 10-15 minutes to bike in,and some evenings I race my driving co-workers downtown for a beer-always waiting on those slow car guys!

Roody

What an unpleasant and ugly post! You have some good points, but mostly I was too busy drying my tears to read them. But possibly you also need to do some research before spouting off on the internet.

Edit: After posting this message, I realized that I was guilty of one of Lil's charges: I was taking the thread even further off-topic. However, I didn't want to just delete the entire post because I had put a fair amount of time and effort into it. So I started a new thread and moved the bulk of this post to it, almost verbatim. I hope this doesn't confuse or annoy anybody! (Or at least no more than I usually do!)

The new thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/living-car...s-carfree.html