Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 23 of 23
  1. #1
    In the right lane gerv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Des Moines
    My Bikes
    1974 Huffy 3 speed
    Posts
    9,058
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Tell us about the street you live on...

    I've been thinking lately about some of the streets I have resided on in the past 20 years. I keep thinking about various factors that make them liveable and bearable... and what is definitely hard to live with:

    - 25 years ago I lived in a small Canadian city, on a street in an older working class district. The streets were narrow, there was virtually no lawn on the front of these single family dwelling and there were always a lot of people in the streets. Most of them were kids. Occasionally, the kids would hijack the street and turn it into a street hockey arena. Car drivers would get a little upset about having to share the street... but they always slowed down and worked their way quitely through.

    - 15 years ago, I lived on a busy mid town intersection in Des Moines. Lot of college kid apartments. I was living in a large old house with virtually no lawn (yipee!!) but it was noisy. No place for the kids to play, but there were many people walking on the street. One vivid memory when I first arrived is a police chase that ended in the church parking lot next door with a shootout. There were a few people travelling on the streets, but less than in Canada.

    - 9 years ago I moved to a quite older suburb that feels like the city, but has some slightly different features. All houses have a 60 lawn on the front and probably 40-60 feet in the back (yes, I bought a lawn mower ). It's a nice tree street out front, but there's no sidewalk and the street is narrow. Lately, there are more and more people in the street, expecially cyclists who seem to use it as a thoroughfare. But also walkers... who have to keep in the street. Most of the walkers seem to use it for recreation, not transportation. The big benefit is that it slows cars down quite a bit, so almost none of them can barrel through.

    One problem with all these streets is the level of noise. In all cases, I lived close to major thoroughfares and the noise was constant.

    Another problem is that kids had to be aware of dangers travelling anywhere... even close to home. Usually schools were a good distance and the kids couldn't walk to school.

    I'm just wondering what features would make different streets you lived on more liveable.

  2. #2
    tsl
    tsl is offline
    Plays in traffic tsl's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    My Bikes
    1996 Litespeed Classic, 2006 Trek Portland, 2013 Ribble Winter/Audax
    Posts
    6,352
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I live on sort of a secondary thoroughfare. It used to be a four-lane, but a few years ago it was "traffic-calmed" to a two-lane with on-street parking and little bumpouts to keep people from driving in the parking lane.

    I live on busier streets because they're plowed in the winter. Plus it's a bus route. I can see the stop from my window. And did I mention I'm 100 yards from an LBS?

    Once upon a time I owned a suburban three-bedroom. That cured me of property ownership for life. I've rented ever since.

    Currently I'm in a 46-unit building constructed in 1925. Has plenty of character. Things you don't get these days--like real steam heat (not a hot-water conversion), plaster crown mouldings, real multi-pane windows, glass doorknobs--and updated kitchen, bath and mechanicals.

    I'm across the street from a light industrial plant, their parking lot is next door, and there's a church parking lot across the back fence. Thus, on this side of the building there are no neighbors. I seek out buildings situated like this because there are no dogs. I hate barking dogs. That's a big part of why I left the suburbs originally.

    I moved from my last place because the landlord changed the no dogs rule. Had to let me out of the lease because it represented a change in terms. I was gone in 60 days, and it was only that long because I liked this place well enough to wait for it. I'm glad I did.
    My two favorite things in life are libraries and bicycles. They both move people forward without wasting anything.
    The perfect day: Riding a bike to the library.—Peter Golkin


    Lucky for me, I work at a library and bike to work.

  3. #3
    Senior Member wahoonc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    On the road-USA
    My Bikes
    Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
    Posts
    16,110
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Grew up all over the place, mostly living in what I would call intown neighborhoods, quite often in towns small enough to walk from one side to the other.

    Spent 6-8 years before I graduated from high school in a neighborhood that was established in the early 1920's. It was laid out on a grid system and had everything you could want within a few blocks. The streets were narrow but had sidewalks, however you did not want to be walking on them at rush hour.

    Now I live on what is left of my wife's family's old farm. The are is becoming suburban, like it or not. The traffic count on the road we live off of has increased from 2400 cars a day in 1999 to over 9700 in 2008. They have continued to build subdivisions all over the county, but have done little or nothing to improve the roads. Cycling has become much less enjoyable. On the plus side we finally have a grocery store less than 2 miles from the house, it used to be 7 miles one way. But getting there is definitely no fun. The number of wrecks on the road have increased exponentially. It used to average maybe one every couple of months now once a week seems more common. People don't believe the 35mph curve signs.

    We are discussing and considering the possibility of a move into town. Our jobs require travel, so where we live is not as critical, but the farm and houses are paid for.

    Aaron
    Last edited by wahoonc; 10-22-09 at 06:45 AM. Reason: grammar died
    Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

    ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

    "Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
    RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
    _Nicodemus

    "Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred
    Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
    _krazygluon

  4. #4
    Super Moderator Allen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Atomic batteries to power; turbines to speed
    My Bikes
    Salsa La Raza, Panasonic Electric, Bria, Bamboo touring, Bamboo cargo
    Posts
    4,688
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    You can see it on the right side of that picture.
    I've lived there all of my life near abouts.

  5. #5
    Sophomoric Member Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Dancing in Lansing
    Posts
    20,395
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    great pic, Allen. I can see why you chose to spend your life there!

    I just moved, so I'm thinking about the OP's question a lot. My new place is in a quiet working class neighborhood in one of Lansing's older areas. I'm a block from the Rivertrail, which is a (rare) practical MUP. Old Town is a couple blocks away with lots of cool little restaurants and art galleries but no hardware, drugstore or grocery.

    It's a real pretty urban area. Most people tell me that it must be the best place in town to be carfree. But ironically, a lot of less quaint semi-suburban areas are more practical for my lifestyle.


    "Think Outside the Cage"

  6. #6
    Senior Member wahoonc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    On the road-USA
    My Bikes
    Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
    Posts
    16,110
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I like AllenG's place too...reminds me a lot of mine and yes it does snow in NC

    Aaron



    Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

    ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

    "Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
    RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
    _Nicodemus

    "Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred
    Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
    _krazygluon

  7. #7
    Senior Member rbrian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    My Bikes
    '07 Brompton S6L; '10 Brompton M6R
    Posts
    482
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I grew up in a tiny village, on a very quiet single track lane, with tarmac, but no road markings, and no traffic, except for residents. It wasn't prohibited, it just didn't go anywhere, so there was no point anyone else driving down it. As a kid, it was great - I could walk to school, then cycle to school when I got old enough to go the big school, there were fields on 3 sides. When I was a teenager it was horrible, I felt trapped in the middle of nowhere, when elsewhere things were happening.

    The house I live in now is on a quiet singletrack residential road in the middle of a very small town. There are houses on all sides, which actually help to block the noise from the main road.

    Soon I will be moving into the city, to a new flat on a busy 4 lane main road. I always said I'd never live on a main road, but after a few nights in a hotel on a main road, I realised it actually wasn't that bad. There are few residences near me, mostly shops and offices, and opposite, no buildings - just a view over the harbour. There certainly won't be kids playing in the street, as there were in the other two places I've lived, but as I'm not likely ever to have kids, that doesn't bother me - in fact as I get older and more grumpy, it suits me. It's a quarter of a mile from the city centre, and even closer to the bus and train stations, and has no parking.
    Be the change you want to see in the world - Mahatma Ghandi

    Live as if the world were the way it should be, to show them what it could be - Angel

  8. #8
    In the right lane gerv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Des Moines
    My Bikes
    1974 Huffy 3 speed
    Posts
    9,058
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rbrian View Post
    Soon I will be moving into the city, to a new flat on a busy 4 lane main road. I always said I'd never live on a main road, but after a few nights in a hotel on a main road, I realised it actually wasn't that bad. There are few residences near me, mostly shops and offices, and opposite, no buildings - just a view over the harbour. There certainly won't be kids playing in the street, as there were in the other two places I've lived, but as I'm not likely ever to have kids, that doesn't bother me - in fact as I get older and more grumpy, it suits me. It's a quarter of a mile from the city centre, and even closer to the bus and train stations, and has no parking.

    What about noise levels? Or just the intimidation factor of so much traffic? Doesn't that both you?

    While I am okay with having less traffic at my latest digs, I still have a problem with traffic noise. It can be very quiet after 10:00pm, but then there's the occasional roar of a motor cycle or some semi pulling out of the local grocery store.

    I think most people believe themselves immune to background noise, but I suspect they are just kidding themselves.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Jim from Boston's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    2,889
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Tell us about the street you live on...

    I live on Commonwealth Avenue (Comm Ave) considered to be one of the most beautiful boulevards in America, modeled on those in Paris. But I live on the "wrong side of the tracks" as it were, in Kenmore Square. Kenmore has been likened to Boston's equivalent of Times Square, but it never descended to those depths. It is an intersection of three major thoroughfares as well as a point of convergence of three branches of the Green subway line (the (T)) before they emerge from underground to fan out westward. Kenmore is the home of Fenway Park, so on game day, street and subway traffic is horrendous. It is also home to Boston University, so all-in-all is a lively place.

    On the day of the Boston Marathon, traditionally is a Red Sox ball game beginning at 11:00 AM so the crowd is just letting out as the first of thousands of runners are making their way through Kenmore to the finish line a mile away through an already massive crowd of onlookers. Gotta love the place. Bicycling? Don't get me started.

  10. #10
    Senior Member wheel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Crystal MN
    Posts
    2,147
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I grew up on streets which didn't have a sidewalks in Crystal Mn

    I have lived on the oldest toll road in America RT230 in Steelton PA across from the largest Steel Mill in America.

    I have also lived on a road with 60,000 cars a day 7th street Phoenix Az.

    After that it gets rather boring. Mostly residential streets.
    Currently right now I live on a bicycle BLVD which goes from one edge of the valley to the other in Scottsdale AZ. It has bike lanes which are voided when cars park on them. (legal)

  11. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    4,793
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Before moving out on my own, I lived w/ parental units in 3 different houses; 1st was in what is now the ghetto, had sidewalks, light traffic, about a block off anything near a busy street. 2nd was in suburbia, no sidewalks, but for some reason, noisier. 3rd was an older neighborhood in town, small lots, sidewalks, lotsa traffic, even though main drags were 2+ blocks away.

    Boy, did I get spoiled overseas! Tiny little villages with little traffic, quiet as can be! Coming back stateside was a bit of culture shock! I have yet to live anywhere that was NEARLY as quiet -- my place right now, kind of on the cusp of urban/suburban, is 2x louder than it was 5 years ago. Thugs have taken to 'laying low' -- at least, as low as idiot thugs can while they thump their stereos @ 2AM.

    I'm ready to live about a mile outside of town.

  12. #12
    Prefers Cicero cooker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Toronto
    My Bikes
    1984 Trek 520; 1990s Peugeot (Canadian-made) rigid mountain bike; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
    Posts
    8,422
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There actually are lilacs on my street, but you can't hear any larks, as far as I know.

  13. #13
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    38,082
    Mentioned
    25 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Our street is sandwiched between a highway and the esplanade. It's fairly quiet, and we can reach cycleways in just about any direction. The closest is about 50 metres away.

    We are on top of a hill, so no matter where we go for a ride, there's a climb at the end.

  14. #14
    Sophomoric Member Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Dancing in Lansing
    Posts
    20,395
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Machka, did you ever think about just starting new threads? When you continually bump these old threads, I feel burdened by the weight of the past. New wine in old skins, and all that....


    "Think Outside the Cage"

  15. #15
    In the right lane gerv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Des Moines
    My Bikes
    1974 Huffy 3 speed
    Posts
    9,058
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Machka, did you ever think about just starting new threads? When you continually bump these old threads, I feel burdened by the weight of the past. New wine in old skins, and all that....
    It feels like a time machine. I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now...

  16. #16
    Sophomoric Member Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Dancing in Lansing
    Posts
    20,395
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    It feels like a time machine. I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now...
    I know I live on a different street now, Mr. Dylan.


    "Think Outside the Cage"

  17. #17
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    38,082
    Mentioned
    25 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Machka, did you ever think about just starting new threads? When you continually bump these old threads, I feel burdened by the weight of the past. New wine in old skins, and all that....
    To quote someone …

    “Do you have some psychological issue that compels you to comment on every thread, whether you're interested or not?”

    You don't have to respond to these threads if you're no longer interested in them.

    Meanwhile, this thread is interesting and timeless ... so why not respond to it rather than cluttering things up with new, repetitive threads?



    Are you still on the same street? Has it changed or have your thoughts about it changed?

  18. #18
    Senior Member Smallwheels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    I'm in East Helena Montana for now.
    Posts
    1,258
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I live on a corner at the edge of a neighborhood. My street is covered with too much snow this week which makes it difficult to ride the bicycle. There aren't enough cars and trucks traveling on this section to flatten it very quickly.

    On one street across from the house is a big empty lot owned by the city. It takes up half of the block. On the other street is a pasture that had cows in it. I haven't seen them in a while. Maybe they are now hamburgers. The pasture is about a half mile in one direction and one mile in the other. The main roads border the other sides of this field. I can see the street lights and even some cars that far away.

    I suppose one benefit to living on the edge of a neighborhood is less traffic and noise. It is really pretty at night and when the weather is warm and I can stand outside, it is fairly quiet.
    Smallwheels

    Take my stuff, please. I have way too much. My current goal is to have all of my possessions fit onto a large bicycle trailer. Really.

  19. #19
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    38,082
    Mentioned
    25 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Our street is sandwiched between a highway and the esplanade. It's fairly quiet, and we can reach cycleways in just about any direction. The closest is about 50 metres away.

    We are on top of a hill, so no matter where we go for a ride, there's a climb at the end.

    I don't think I've got a photo of the street right out in front of our place, but this is just down the road a little way, with the cycleway along side the road ...



    I just wish there was more of it ... more of our quiet road, more of the cycleway ...




    Prior to this, I've lived in many different places. A very rural location, several small towns, mid-sized towns, and cities. I've moved a lot!

    In answer to this: "I'm just wondering what features would make different streets you lived on more liveable." I'll mention a couple of the features I've liked where I've lived:

    1) Quick access to the country. Since I've been cycling "seriously", every place I've lived (with the possible exception of where we live now) I've had very quick access to open country roads.

    2) Wide roads and/or roads with shoulders ... roads with room for both vehicles and bicycles.

  20. #20
    Senior Member Zedoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Boodling the Mitten
    Posts
    120
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I lived in "the projects" for 20 years. As townhouses, they're not as bad as tower blocks, but outdoor bike storage was not allowed. We had bikes in the living room and laundry room. The evening's or late night's entertainment was frequently the neighbors' domestic disturbances and crying kids. No thru traffic, but cops sometimes stopped by to escort people to other accommodations. When the dumpster lids were replaced, the contractor that cut the old hinges with a torch ignored the trash in the dumpsters, which burned. The fire department was called for each street.

    Now I live on an ordinary suburban street with separate houses, dogs, lawnmowers, etc. I take all trash out on a specific day instead of dumping a bag whenever it's full.

  21. #21
    coprolite fietsbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW,Oregon Coast
    My Bikes
    7
    Posts
    39,147
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Crosses US 30 1/2 block down hill .. 1 block further .. Is the Columbia River..

  22. #22
    Pedaled too far. Artkansas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    La Petite Roche
    Posts
    12,198
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The street I live on is about 1.2 miles long. The first .4 miles is dominated by 3 huge apartment complexes. There's a small business strip with two self storage places, a convenience store, a club, a smoke shop, a Subway, a church and an independent mom and pop drug store. South of that, the street wanders up and down, right and left through suburban homes and finally comes out at the top of the hill, once again to a final .3 miles of apartments and condos.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    My Bikes
    90's Campione,90's trek multitrack,2005 trek 3700
    Posts
    191
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's the burbs. Artirial roadway is about 40 feet away. Other than that it's just nice(ish) homes.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •