Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Living Car Free Do you live car free or car light? Do you prefer to use alternative transportation (bicycles, walking, other human-powered or public transportation) for everyday activities whenever possible? Discuss your lifestyle here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-25-10, 08:42 AM   #1
ndbiker
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Good News

While this comes from a conservative web sight and the comments aren't exactly in line with the general opinion typically expressed here, I thought most might be pleased by the opinions of the new transportation secretary.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/63290
ndbiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 09:57 AM   #2
Artkansas 
Pedaled too far.
 
Artkansas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: La Petite Roche
Bikes:
Posts: 12,858
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
“About everything we do around here is government intrusion in people's lives,” said LaHood. “So have at it.”

Well, ending the article that way shows a lot about the angle they are looking for. Not exactly supportive. An article definitely designed to raise the hackles of the car-addicted and make them feel self righteous about what is "already being done" by industry.
__________________
"He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.
Artkansas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 10:55 AM   #3
Doohickie 
You gonna eat that?
 
Doohickie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas Church of Hopeful Uncertainty
Bikes: 1966 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist, 1973 Schwinn Varsity, 1983 Raleigh Marathon, 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS
Posts: 14,320
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Already being discussed in another thread.
__________________
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
Doohickie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 01:49 PM   #4
Smallwheels
Senior Member
 
Smallwheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: I'm in Portland Oregon
Bikes: Xootr scooter
Posts: 1,381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I read many of the comments. They were the same old pro-auto comments with some cyclists thrown in. I would like to respond to many of them but what would be the point. We know that cyclists pay for roads via their regular taxes and we know cyclists have the right to use the roads. It would be like talking to a brick wall.

I'm glad LaHood said these things and has made a change. He didn't really say funding would go to other forms of transportation, only that non-motorized methods of transportation would have a say in the future. I just inferred that more money would be spent on mass transit, pedestrian, and cycling infrastructure.
Smallwheels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 02:26 PM   #5
Platy
Dare to be weird!
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Austin TX
Bikes: Hybridized 1970s Coppi road bike; Townie city cruiser
Posts: 1,991
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
“About everything we do around here is government intrusion in people's lives,” said LaHood. “So have at it.”

Well, ending the article that way shows a lot about the angle they are looking for. Not exactly supportive. An article definitely designed to raise the hackles of the car-addicted and make them feel self righteous about what is "already being done" by industry.
Provoking self-righteousness is the main form of political propaganda these days. Maybe it's always been that way, everywhere. Unfortunately, it's an obstacle to real civil discussion of issues.
Platy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 06:32 PM   #6
Roody
Sophomoric Member
 
Roody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dancing in Lansing
Bikes:
Posts: 23,389
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
I already read about it in other sources, so I'm going to skip the comments that will probably just piss me off. But I'm glad that LaHood said what he said about giving new priority to non-motor transportation. At the very least, it will make it easier for local planners to stick to their guns when they tell citizens that we need serious solutions to the serious problem of too many cars congesting the roads.
__________________

"Think Outside the Cage"
Roody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-10, 09:04 PM   #7
DX-MAN
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 4,789
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I used to read a book series back in the day that paired a couple of odd and very opinionated characters, whose back-and-forth would reveal nuggets of true wisdom. One character would call speeches like this a "pretty song", indicating that it was comforting to the ear, a feel-good balloon of no real substance. That's kinda how i feel about it. I like what I hear, but I don't see much change coming.

What I have noticed is that the caucasian Anglo societies in the world are aggressively auto-centric (US, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.; continental Europe is less so, IME). There seems to be a sense of entitlement embodied there, a sort of "we're the best in the world, we deserve the best and most decadent!" THAT has an intertia that would be hard to overcome.

I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
DX-MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-10, 04:44 PM   #8
Roody
Sophomoric Member
 
Roody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dancing in Lansing
Bikes:
Posts: 23,389
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DX-MAN View Post
I used to read a book series back in the day that paired a couple of odd and very opinionated characters, whose back-and-forth would reveal nuggets of true wisdom. One character would call speeches like this a "pretty song", indicating that it was comforting to the ear, a feel-good balloon of no real substance. That's kinda how i feel about it. I like what I hear, but I don't see much change coming.

What I have noticed is that the caucasian Anglo societies in the world are aggressively auto-centric (US, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.; continental Europe is less so, IME). There seems to be a sense of entitlement embodied there, a sort of "we're the best in the world, we deserve the best and most decadent!" THAT has an intertia that would be hard to overcome.

I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
Obviously the Secretary of Transportation is not going to change American culture or entrenched government policies with one speech. But he is signalling a change that will be a long time coming.
__________________

"Think Outside the Cage"
Roody is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:56 PM.