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Old 08-19-10, 09:31 PM   #1
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Bicycles lead to population control!

Ah, yes, living in the age of idiocy...

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"Dan Maes, a candidate for governor of Colorado, thinks he's found an international conspiracy that starts with bike sharing. The article describes his current complaints with the incumbent's policies. 'The bike program in it of itself, if that's all it is, I wouldn't be opposed to it,' Maes told 9NEWS. 'What I am opposed to is if it's part of a bigger program that the mayor has signed on to as part of a UN program. That I would be opposed to.' He goes on to argue that the bicycle program is only a gateway into bigger policies including, but not limited to, forced abortions and population control. I understand that bike seats are uncomfortable, but I had no idea it was on purpose."
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I am seldom impressed with politicians in general and usually even less so after they open their mouths...

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So people are ticked off about the quality of their representation and government. I understand that. But why do they pick new alternatives who are even stupider and more out of touch than the old ones? Maes is an idiot. My take, as a non-Coloradan, is that he's trying to dream up dirt on Hickenlooper, who is probably one of the better elected officials in Colorado.
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Colorado is full of fit, outdoorsy types. This should go over like a fart in church.
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You'd hope so.
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The greatest folly of our age is our willingness to embrace and legitimize any notion.

Politicians are as guilty as anyone of this, and often the more so. It has, in fact, become the fashion among today's politico's.

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Hell, politicians are just running with the balls the lawyers gave 'em (and too many pols are lawyers too, BTW); when you can have a case actually GO TO COURT about some old woman who burned herself by setting a cup of coffee between her legs -- and OMG, WIN THE F'N THING -- the bottle has been opened, and the idiocy genie has escaped.
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Hell, politicians are just running with the balls the lawyers gave 'em (and too many pols are lawyers too, BTW); when you can have a case actually GO TO COURT about some old woman who burned herself by setting a cup of coffee between her legs -- and OMG, WIN THE F'N THING -- the bottle has been opened, and the idiocy genie has escaped.
Aint it the truth.
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The Republican party is being pulled further to the right than ever before thanks to the Tea Party. Maes is simply trying to attract more right wing votes by showing that he's against abortion, climate control, and population control from which the bicyle program is all about in the "Larger" picture! It's insane.

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Hell, politicians are just running with the balls the lawyers gave 'em (and too many pols are lawyers too, BTW); when you can have a case actually GO TO COURT about some old woman who burned herself by setting a cup of coffee between her legs -- and OMG, WIN THE F'N THING -- the bottle has been opened, and the idiocy genie has escaped.
From what I understand, the woman in this case suffered third degree burns and had to undergo skin graft treatments due to McDonalds serving coffee at 180F. McDonald's own quality control manager agreed that food served at temperatures higher than 130F would burn the mouth. I think it's a fairly interesting case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

On topic, Maes also stated he would fire 2,000 state employees if he is elected as governor. It's not a surprise he doesn't have much support from the Republican party itself, he seems bent on appealing to the most radical members of the tea party. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15750068
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Conspiracy theories are beautiful things.
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I know huh? And there are nearly endless opportunities for them, these days.
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What a load of crap. I'm with Roody, why do these supposedly anti-authority/pro-revolution tea parties pick even bigger dumbasses than the ones already in office? It seems to be a running theme, I've seen the "tea party" candidates from every state, and they're almost always nuts.

PS- I grew up in Colorado, and it's definitely true that this won't be tolerated down there (particularly in Boulder ). Still, the sheer fact that a person in power said this is pretty disturbing.
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But surely we can all agree that there should be a study commissioned to look into this. What if it's true?
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I am seldom impressed with politicians in general and usually even less so after they open their mouths...

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From what I understand, the woman in this case suffered third degree burns and had to undergo skin graft treatments due to McDonalds serving coffee at 180F. McDonald's own quality control manager agreed that food served at temperatures higher than 130F would burn the mouth. I think it's a fairly interesting case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...;s_Restaurants

On topic, Maes also stated he would fire 2,000 state employees if he is elected as governor. It's not a surprise he doesn't have much support from the Republican party itself, he seems bent on appealing to the most radical members of the tea party. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15750068
Yes it is interesting, the woman could read english well enough to see they had coffee, she could read how much the coffee cost but couldn't read on the cup that says "Hot"? Maybe it is just me but if I have something even 130 degrees I am not going to hold it between my legs. We have moved to a society that will not take personal responsibility for any action. It is always someone elses fault and someone must be sued. How often do we brew coffee at home that is too hot to hold between our legs? In fact who with a ounce of common sence would put hot coffee so close to a part of their body not in need of hot coffee?

As far as political rethoric there is hardly ever any concern over truth only in saying what you think the people want to hear.

There may be a hint of truth to cycling and birth control but I believe it would apply more to those who don't know anything about proper fit and development. It would be more of a side effect that can be corrected with a proper saddle. http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/bike/

But dang if we had to pay attention to our equipment who would we sue?
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Yes it is interesting, the woman could read english well enough to see they had coffee, she could read how much the coffee cost but couldn't read on the cup that says "Hot"?
Well, "hot" is a bit vague. A 100 degree and a 180 degree drink are both "hot." It's pretty easy with hindsight to say a person should have guessed which one of them was meant, based on the word "hot" being pre-printed on the cup. I don't think that had anything to do with literacy or the woman's mother tongue.
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Well, "hot" is a bit vague. A 100 degree and a 180 degree drink are both "hot." It's pretty easy with hindsight to say a person should have guessed which one of them was meant, based on the word "hot" being pre-printed on the cup. I don't think that had anything to do with literacy or the woman's mother tongue.
No you are correct. We have only been drinking hot coffee for two hundred years or so in this country. It has even become a sight gag in TV and Movies when someone gets hot coffee spilled on them. So if I go into a coffee shop and they pour hot coffee into a cup why wouldn't I put it between my legs? Oh wait I know, I wouldn't pour hot water from my faucet on my pants. Unless she ordered ice coffee there is the perfect example of a letting someone out of the home unsupervised. Have you ever poured a fresh cup of coffee and thought how nice it would be t hold in between your legs? Don't they make coffee with boiling water?
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Don't they make coffee with boiling water?
Robert, this could lead to a real : moment if there are any coffee buffs around here. Correct temperature is around 200F, but better I think if the water first boiled, then cooled down to this temp.

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What a load of crap. I'm with Roody, why do these supposedly anti-authority/pro-revolution tea parties pick even bigger dumbasses than the ones already in office? It seems to be a running theme, I've seen the "tea party" candidates from every state, and they're almost always nuts.

PS- I grew up in Colorado, and it's definitely true that this won't be tolerated down there (particularly in Boulder ). Still, the sheer fact that a person in power said this is pretty disturbing.
Then I am sure you have heard the term, "That is so Boulder" when talking aboout an idea many times?
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How'd we get from the ********** to coffee temperatures?
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Robert, this could lead to a real : moment if there are any coffee buffs around here. Correct temperature is around 200F, but better I think if the water first boiled, then cooled down to this temp.

http://www.coffeedetective.com/what-is-the-correct-water-temperature-for-brewing-coffee.html... read the comments
I buy my beans whole, grind them and make my coffee. I almost bought a pressure maker like they have a Starbucks but I just couldn't spring for the extra bucks. Still my coffee water comes to a boil before dripping through the coffee and into the carafe. What I was talking about is how we have taken personal responsibility away from people who cause an accident and placed it on others to reward them for being stupid. I have been to many homes where they serve coffee fresh both after and during dinner. Never once did the hostess or host have to tell me not to put the cup between my legs.

The case mentioned was one of the ones that forced a change in the law and is almost a famous as the twinky defense.

I also don't see any difference between tea parties and tree huggers, or ELF or green peace. They all have an agenda and have agreed to meet together to support that agenda. They have that right and I doubt if their choice is any worse than the ones we already have. The only reason I think we shouldn't round up all the politicians in offce today and dump them in the ocean is I would have to see the ocean poluted anymore than it already is.
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What I was talking about is how we have taken personal responsibility away from people who cause an accident and placed it on others to reward them for being stupid.
Doesn't McDonalds have a corporate responsibility to make coffee that's an appropriate temperature for drinking in a moving car? Stupid is as stupid does, whether you're a billion dollar corporation using a defective coffee maker, or some poor shmuck trying to balance a flimsy paper cup.
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Doesn't McDonalds have a corporate responsibility to make coffee that's an appropriate temperature for drinking in a moving car? Stupid is as stupid does, whether you're a billion dollar corporation using a defective coffee maker, or some poor shmuck trying to balance a flimsy paper cup.
But Micky Ds didn't pour the coffee on the person. we seem to forget who did the act that caused the burn. If I wanted luke warm coffee I would have put ice in it but I have never ordered luke warm coffee. She sued because she spilled a drink made from boiling water, remember water has to be 212 degrees to boil and only then is it filtered through the coffee grounds. No one at the store spilled the coffee for her she did it herself. I have to wonder how many times she burned herself at home?

She should take responsibility for her actions, coffee is hot not warm, you don't put hot liquid in a paper of foam cup betwen your legs. If you do you shouldn't be allowed to sue the people you ordered "Hot" Coffee from. If she stuck her tongue to a metal ice tray should she sue Westinghouse for making the freezer? If she pokes herself while nailing a picture should she sue ACE for making sharp nails?

I am just sad that we have become a nation that simply doesn't believe anything is our fault. And I will fully accept the term Schmuck.

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But then if you had spent and time near a jewish community you would know the Yiddish term simply can't apply to this woman.
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Have you ever read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series? In one of the books, I don't remember which, someone decides to build an inside out building that's an asylum after reading instructions on a box of toothpicks. If we've reached the point at which we need instructions on toothpicks so as not to kill ourselves with them, the world is indeed insane.
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