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Old 10-31-10, 07:25 AM   #1
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very trivial question, but toilet paper wastes a lot of volume in your carrying capacity for groceries. do most car free people only by one roll of tp per week or do they still buy big packages (4-16) every few weeks/months
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Anything that doesn't spoil, I buy the largest size as I can, tp, laundry soap, dish soap, ect... Between the Xtracycle and the trailer, not an issue getting it home.
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TP isn't heavy. So even without a cargo bike, it's easy enough to throw on top and bungie down.
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You people still use toilet paper??? So ungreen and uncool!!

Try plant leaves, and compost 'em when you're done. I have a broad-leafed house plant growing right in the bathroom. TP-free!!!!!
















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You people still use toilet paper???
We switched over to a Japanese washlet a couple of years ago. I don't use TP at all any more except if I have to blow my nose. It conserves water too - needs only one flush per, er, sitting. Electric deodorizing. Self cleaning. Wireless remote, too. Technology even a Luddite can like.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...e-Washlet.html

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To the right of the Washlet there is usually a remote control mounted on the wall which is decorated in complex Japanese characters. If you can`t read Japanese this can often be the most entertaining part of the lavatory experience, with each button press leading to some new, unknown function of the lavatory. However, a word of warning: don't press every button...
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Platy, I read the linked article. No idea how that would solve my problem. Self cleaning? Electric deodorizing. It didn't happen w/o pics.

I was just reading an article on Grist about pee rags.

I understand that in the part of Canada I grew up in, sphagnum moss was very popular pre WWII.

I used to work on foreign fishing vessels in Canadian waters in the 1980s. Pravda, the official newspaper, was very popular among crew members, although I used to bring my own Canadian stash.

Right now, I just back up the trailer to Sam's Club and load up.
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We switched over to a Japanese washlet a couple of years ago. I don't use TP at all any more except if I have to blow my nose. It conserves water too - needs only one flush per, er, sitting. Electric deodorizing. Self cleaning. Wireless remote, too. Technology even a Luddite can like.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...e-Washlet.html
We use the recycled stuff and cloth handkerchiefs for blowing our noses.

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Platy, I read the linked article. No idea how that would solve my problem. Self cleaning? Electric deodorizing. It didn't happen w/o pics.
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One of my friends order paper towels and tissue paper on Amazon (free shipping with Prime)...
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One of my friends order paper towels and tissue paper on Amazon (free shipping with Prime)...
Ridiculously inefficient way of getting it, but convenient I suppose.

I usually just called around and found out when someone was planning a run to Fred Meyer (Wal-mart or the PNW) or Costco. I didn't need to go more than a few times a year for bulk non-perishables. Soap, TP/PT, olive oil, canned stuff, etc. At least in the PNW people are pretty receptive to carpooling places. It gives them a warm-fuzzy feeling, a cup of free coffee or a beer or two, and the chance to rib you about not having a car.
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TP isn't heavy. So even without a cargo bike, it's easy enough to throw on top and bungie down.
That is what I do...

We buy the mega bundles when they are on sale. Interesting side story, my FIL was worried about Y2K and stocked up on TP, said he made too many trips to the outhouse as a kid and had to use the pages of the Sears catalog and that he was damned sure not going to run out of TP. Took him nearly 2 years to work through his back stock.

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very trivial question, but toilet paper wastes a lot of volume in your carrying capacity for groceries. do most car free people only by one roll of tp per week or do they still buy big packages (4-16) every few weeks/months
You use one roll a week!?!?!?!?!?

I buy four packs of TP at the neighborhood grocery store across the street from my house. Its a bit more expensive but then I don't have to haul it all the way home. Who cares? Just pay a little more to buy the bulky stuff at a store closer to home.

Seriously though, how many rolls do you use in a month? I use about a roll every 2-3 months and thats if I am eating a LOT of meat!
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Seriously though, how many rolls do you use in a month? I use about a roll every 2-3 months and thats if I am eating a LOT of meat!
That's an interesting statistic. Without getting too specific, my own usage is much higher.
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You use one roll a week!?!?!?!?!?

I buy four packs of TP at the neighborhood grocery store across the street from my house. Its a bit more expensive but then I don't have to haul it all the way home. Who cares? Just pay a little more to buy the bulky stuff at a store closer to home.

Seriously though, how many rolls do you use in a month? I use about a roll every 2-3 months and thats if I am eating a LOT of meat!
Four rolls a year? Nasty.
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Four rolls a year? Nasty.
I guess I just don't spend as much time at home as some of you. That, or You guys are using half a roll each time you wipe!

A lot depends on the kind of tissue you are using. Bargain basement TP is often not very dense. I buy a generic brand of Scotts tissue so the rolls are very dense and last a long time. I understand that some people like the soft fluffy stuff but I guess my colon is just not that delicate.
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I use my left hand mostly, but when I do give in and buy toilet paper I throw it in my messenger bag. Most of the time I just steal it from public rest rooms.
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I'm fortunate to live relatively close to the stores where I'll buy toilet paper, so it's no problem to carry it while I'm riding home. Strapping it to the rack and panniers could work too, as long as you don't use too much tension to hold it down.
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We switched over to a Japanese washlet a couple of years ago. I don't use TP at all any more except if I have to blow my nose. It conserves water too - needs only one flush per, er, sitting. Electric deodorizing. Self cleaning. Wireless remote, too. Technology even a Luddite can like.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...e-Washlet.html
We looked into those a few years ago. They were quite pricey, so we put off the changeover. Besides, I would have to argue with the city building department to get them to allow me to install it. There is a cheap Indian product that basically sprays your behind with cold water. Since our cold water is 45F, that would make for a stimulating experience.
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I buy the 4-pack or the 6-pack, put it in a bag and tie the bag to my handle bars, or to a clip on my backpack. Or I go shopping with my son and his family in their minivan, and buy the big pack.

I think that I don't really save much money by buying the huge pack of toilet paper (especially zeppinger). I save more by riding my bike instead of taking a car or bus to the grocery store.
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Strapping it to the rack and panniers could work too, as long as you don't use too much tension to hold it down.
Why? If it gets smooshed will it not wipe your corn hole anymore? I don't get it... its not a baguette its toilet paper.
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One roll of 1000 sheet Scott lasts me almost a year. Of course I work 6 days a week and always go at work. There's probably only a 33% chance that I'll drop my Sunday deuce at home. YMMV. It always blows me away how much TP gets used up when I'm living with a girl! I swear it seems like about a roll a day sometimes.
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Why? If it gets smooshed will it not wipe your corn hole anymore? I don't get it... its not a baguette its toilet paper.
I'm with you, bro'. Why do people insist upon multi-ply, fluffy luxury toilet papers that require virgin fibers instead of using the recycled stuff? How soft does it have to be? I mean, you're only using it for a few seconds a day.

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Why? If it gets smooshed will it not wipe your corn hole anymore? I don't get it... its not a baguette its toilet paper.
+1, some brands are actually sold compressed to save space and packing material.

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We looked into those [washlets] a few years ago. They were quite pricey, so we put off the changeover. Besides, I would have to argue with the city building department to get them to allow me to install it. There is a cheap Indian product that basically sprays your behind with cold water. Since our cold water is 45F, that would make for a stimulating experience.
I had the same issues a few years ago when I started the changeover. My first install was a cheap (<$200) non-electric add-on gadget called a Biffy. I still have it in my second bathroom. The version I use has a reservoir tank that warms the water to room temperature. My amateur hookup worked fine, but of course any plumber could install it in 15 minutes with 100% success guaranteed. After it's installed, you just pull the lever to activate the water jet. It takes a little practice to get the positioning right. You still need a square or two of TP to finish the job, and it has no deodorizing.

My partner started out by saying she'd never ever use the Biffy. But when we moved a couple of years later it was the first thing she wanted installed in the new house. That was the point when I figured it was okay to get the full up washlet. We did it to code, it was a spendy project that needed an electrician and a plumber. I was surprised to find that the plumber was familiar with washlets and had been installing quite a few around town.

Right now the cost and the weirdness factor is comparable to an early personal computer in the mid 1970s.
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