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    Amsterdam Circa 1965 5 Min.Video


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNtafebmys&feature=player_embedded#!

    More To Ponder Over And Ask If The Dutch Are About To Lose Out On Their Own Hard Earned Wisdom:
    http://bicycledesign.net/2009/10/background-on-the-batavus-bub/

    “....It may seem difficult to believe, but Dutch bicycle companies like Batavus have recently had a very difficult time penetrating the Dutch urban bicycle market. Companies like Batavus build high quality bikes that tend to last a long time, creating a strong used bike market in urban centers. What is truly impressive is that these bikes last a long time while receiving a massive amount of abuse. The average Amsterdammer leaves their bike outside year round, rarely tunes it, and rides it nearly 3000 miles a year. The average age of a bike in Amsterdam is nearly 35 years old.

    The Dutch hardly romanticize their bikes like we do. They are born onto bikes and treat them like tools. They regard their bikes the same way they regard their washing machines. The urban demographic may be tough to reach because of their preference for used bikes, but an even tougher demographic to reach is the 18-35 age group. After riding in the rain from the age of four, many youngsters want nothing more than a car. Perhaps it’s strange, but as Americans fall in love with bikes again, the Dutch are falling in love with cars. To lure urbanites, and especially young urbanites back onto bikes, a new approach was needed. Enter the Batavus Utility Bike – BuB...."
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    Great video! A dash of Vivaldi, good shots, clever editing. All elements missing in modern YouTubes!
    I especially like the optical illusions on the undulating pavement... bike disappears quickly.

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    I was surprised to see so many cyclists when there was no infrastructure built for them! Did anyone notice the lack of bike lanes? Most of the them were started during 1970's but you would never have known that. Did you notice the number of motorcycles on the streets back then are now gone!

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    Where are all the fat people?



    I like this video!!! I wish to someday live in a place were our focus is shifted in this direction.
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    This was the Netherlands during the rise of the car.
    There were still a lot of bikes, but the car was certainly there.
    Before that time, late 40's and early 50's you would catch the 'bike train' to the factory, there were so many bikes going at the work shift change, that you could only ride the same speed as all others. And like in a railway train, you did meet the same group of people all the time.
    I am too young to remember this, I have been told this by older people.

    In the 1950's and 60's car use diminished from 70% to 10% and in this film I do see a lot of cars. Now the percentage has come up to 40% in some cities, and 30% overal for the country, I am told.

    Most of the 'motorbikes' in the video were Mopeds, can be recognized by a yellew sign on the front mudgard/fender. Now we have about the same numbers of mopeds, as far as I can judge from one flim, but the current lot is more in the shape of scooters.
    Then and now officially restricted to a top speed of 50 km/h, about 30 mile, but often going much faster. They are now more and more using the car lanes rather than mixing with the bicycles, much safer for us.

    If you like pictures about riding a bike in Amsterdam I can surely recommend this blog:
    http://amsterdamize.com/ like this one edition: http://amsterdamize.com/2010/09/28/end-of-september/

    Where are all the fat people?
    In the cars. There still are less fat people here than in the USA, on average, but the number is on the rise. And while the average number of overweight people was lower still in the 1960's, there certainly were people who were gross overweight.
    Many of those would chose to ride a car, gotten overweight because of being rich and lazy, or finding going by bike hard and using train or bus if not rich, most of those would be overweight because of medical problems. Being overweight because you are poor did not exist in those times, not here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    Great video! A dash of Vivaldi, good shots, clever editing. All elements missing in modern YouTubes!
    I especially like the optical illusions on the undulating pavement... bike disappears quickly.
    apparently you never heard of ed van der elsken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    I was surprised to see so many cyclists when there was no infrastructure built for them! Did anyone notice the lack of bike lanes? Most of the them were started during 1970's but you would never have known that. Did you notice the number of motorcycles on the streets back then are now gone!
    now we're just stuck with more and more idiots on scooters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willeke_igkt View Post
    In the 1950's and 60's car use diminished from 70% to 10% and in this film I do see a lot of cars. Now the percentage has come up to 40% in some cities, and 30% overal for the country, I am told.
    This page suggests the figure is even 44% for Amsterdam. Copenhagen is much better.

    However, compared to the US...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    This page suggests the figure is even 44% for Amsterdam. Copenhagen is much better.

    However, compared to the US...
    I do not know where Wikipedia got its information for this page, but it is not confirmed by all other sources I have been able to find.
    I did find two blogs written late 2009 about the claims of Copenhagen and those compared to Dutch cities:
    This by David Hembrow and this one on Amsterdamize
    Both writers have mentioned the stats more often, if you browse their blogs you might find them.

    And comaring to the USA, see:
    Hembrow's blog on traffic in the USA which, by the way, states a 20% bike share in Copenhagen and a 35% for Amsterdam.

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