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Old 01-03-11, 02:42 PM   #1
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You're all a bunch of hobbiests!

...according to some of the nimrods in this thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ycling-a-hobby

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That's a hard one to describe in this thread, for me its hobby and means of transportation, as i do ride for leisure from time to time
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It's been years since I regularly rode for pleasure with no particular destination.
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Chip,

Are you looking for trouble? Linking into the Road Forum from here. Really?
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And your name calling is better than theirs, how?

I do build bikes as a hobby... for fun. But I ride for transportation, exercise, and for fun... so which part of that is hobby? Answer: you cannot categorize cycling, as it is capable of providing more than a simple pass time. What it means is different for everybody.

Though, for the guys I ride with that drop serious coin on "cabron tarck" bikes and full kit, who never race or commute, it's mostly a hobby. They could get just as much exercise on a cheap bike, but buying the toys is a hobby... riding is exercise.
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Chip,

Are you looking for trouble? Linking into the Road Forum from here. Really?
I think Chipcom is a troll. Only 21,000 posts in 6 years and obviously hoping to incent the crowd here (...who have just spent the last 3 weeks discussing class warfare...)

Well... to be honest... I think we need some excitement here. I agree...damn those roadies... nothing but trouble makers.
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What is so funny about that thread? For almost everyone in the roadie forum, it can only be called a hobby, or a recreational sport, yet almost all of them argue it is more. The roadies *could* use their bikes for transport, but probably rarely or never do. Nobody is paying them to ride, either. If they only ride for entertainment and excercise, then it's a hobby.

If, like me, you don't have a car, and you use your bike for transport, then it must be something more. If I sold all my bikes, would walking become my hobby? I use my bikes partly as a hobby, like for riding brevets. And, I buy bikes (sometimes) with an eye for much more than how well they will get me to work or haul groceries. Of course, it's partly a hobby for us, too. We all walk every day, but we don't get together on internet forums to talk about our shoes.
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You can drive a car to work and not have any interest in cars except what you need to know to use one, so in that case you would not be a car hobbiest. However, if you also read car magazines, tinker with or customize your car for fun, go to car shows, and post on a car forum you might be a car hobbiest.

By that analogy I think many of us are both transportational cyclists and bike hobbiests.
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What is so funny about that thread? For almost everyone in the roadie forum, it can only be called a hobby, or a recreational sport, yet almost all of them argue it is more. The roadies *could* use their bikes for transport, but probably rarely or never do. Nobody is paying them to ride, either. If they only ride for entertainment and excercise, then it's a hobby.

If, like me, you don't have a car, and you use your bike for transport, then it must be something more. If I sold all my bikes, would walking become my hobby? I use my bikes partly as a hobby, like for riding brevets. And, I buy bikes (sometimes) with an eye for much more than how well they will get me to work or haul groceries. Of course, it's partly a hobby for us, too. We all walk every day, but we don't get together on internet forums to talk about our shoes.
Great idea! I'm a bit of a shoe freak, and would thoroughly enjoy such a thread/forum.
I see I'm going to have to go over to the road forum and check it out.
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Does this make my bike my hobby-horse?

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I think I resemble that remark.
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Great idea! I'm a bit of a shoe freak, and would thoroughly enjoy such a thread/forum...
http://solecollector.com/forums

Go nuts, man. The Jordan subforum has 180,000 posts! These people are really into shoes. It looks eerily like this forum (you have to scroll down a bit to see it).

Edit--The shoe forum has 988 users on line right now, while this forum has 1458. I guess a lot of people do have a shoe hobby.
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I think Chipcom is a troll. Only 21,000 posts in 6 years and obviously hoping to incent the crowd here (...who have just spent the last 3 weeks discussing class warfare...)

Well... to be honest... I think we need some excitement here. I agree...damn those roadies... nothing but trouble makers.
He's a professional troll.
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What is so funny about that thread? For almost everyone in the roadie forum, it can only be called a hobby, or a recreational sport, yet almost all of them argue it is more. The roadies *could* use their bikes for transport, but probably rarely or never do. Nobody is paying them to ride, either. If they only ride for entertainment and excercise, then it's a hobby.

If, like me, you don't have a car, and you use your bike for transport, then it must be something more. If I sold all my bikes, would walking become my hobby? I use my bikes partly as a hobby, like for riding brevets. And, I buy bikes (sometimes) with an eye for much more than how well they will get me to work or haul groceries. Of course, it's partly a hobby for us, too. We all walk every day, but we don't get together on internet forums to talk about our shoes.
Why the animosity toward roadies? I'm not a roadie myself, but I don't have a problem with them; even if they're clad in Lycra and riding bikes made of overpriced plastic, their presence on the roads is a good thing for the rest of us.

Anyway, for me, bicycling is much more than a mere hobby: it's a very efficient way to transport beer.
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Why the animosity toward roadies? I'm not a roadie myself, but I don't have a problem with them; even if they're clad in Lycra and riding bikes made of overpriced plastic, their presence on the roads is a good thing for the rest of us.

Anyway, for me, bicycling is much more than a mere hobby: it's a very efficient way to transport beer.
I'm not anti-roadie; you're reading something between the lines that isn't there. I'm just pointing out the irony of their arguments in that thread. The fact that they are in the road forum screams hobby. If you buy the not-so-bold assumptions that they don't haul groceries or get paid to ride, then that pretty well seals the deal.

I think they dislike the tag 'hobby' because it somehow implies they are not dedicated. But, lots of people are hard-core about their hobby. To get it out of the hobby class, though, you need to get paid, or have another purpose besides entertainment or excercise.
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Chewybrian makes some good points... it's not necessarily bad to have a "hobby" but they shouldn't get bent out of shape about it, either. The Road forum guys tend to real defensive when people accuse them of not being "real" cyclists, just because they don't ride in the rain... or at night... or with cargo, a destination, etc. etc. To them, it's a hobby. It just is what it is. (Not to mention the SS/FG forum... holy cow.)

We here in the LCF forum tend to look down on roadies because of their affinity for convenience and speed above all else, but as single-minded as they are, they're still cyclists. They still ride the roads, they still get seen by cars, they still support bike shops, so it all evens out in the end. I give them grief for driving to a group ride, and they give me grief for not buying carbon fiber and still using cheap bikes with freewheels.

It's all good. Breathe in, breathe out.
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You can drive a car to work and not have any interest in cars except what you need to know to use one, so in that case you would not be a car hobbiest. However, if you also read car magazines, tinker with or customize your car for fun, go to car shows, and post on a car forum you might be a car hobbyist.

By that analogy I think many of us are both transportational cyclists and bike hobbyists.
I took issue with this notion that one is either a 'professional' (works in a bike related profession, racing, wrenching, etc), or a hobbyist. I thought the car analogy was apt. A car, bike, hammer or chain saw are just tools. One can use those tools as part of their profession, or their hobby...or they can just use them to do the job they were intended to do...in the case if bikes, simple transportation.

I agree, many of us here are users AND hobbyists AND even professionals (in some cases), but this notion that we can only be pros or hobbyists is just plain silly. I've been riding bikes for transportation since I was just a little troll *******...it didn't become a hobby until this century.
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Chewybrian makes some good points... it's not necessarily bad to have a "hobby" but they shouldn't get bent out of shape about it, either. The Road forum guys tend to real defensive when people accuse them of not being "real" cyclists, just because they don't ride in the rain... or at night... or with cargo, a destination, etc. etc. To them, it's a hobby. It just is what it is. (Not to mention the SS/FG forum... holy cow.)

We here in the LCF forum tend to look down on roadies because of their affinity for convenience and speed above all else, but as single-minded as they are, they're still cyclists. They still ride the roads, they still get seen by cars, they still support bike shops, so it all evens out in the end. I give them grief for driving to a group ride, and they give me grief for not buying carbon fiber and still using cheap bikes with freewheels.

It's all good. Breathe in, breathe out.
You do realize that one can be a roadie AND a transportational, car-free, cyclist, right?
This tendency to categorize people....and even limit them to only one category, is silly.
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Locally, nobody has ever termed my riding a bike as a hobby, though I've heard words like crazy, eccentric, foolish, idiotic..........
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Im gonna go out on a limb and say that since we are chatting about bikes on a bike forum cycling must be our hobby, Im going to retract my earlier statement and go with cycling may be more to us but it is for sure our "hobby". Now let the slaughtering of my response begin
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Locally, nobody has ever termed my riding a bike as a hobby, though I've heard words like crazy, eccentric, foolish, idiotic..........
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I say we should instead of saying we're hobbiests we should just call our selves bike nerds, because i bet most of us are!!
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I say we should instead of saying we're hobbiests we should just call our selves bike nerds, because i bet most of us are!!
Can't we just call ourselves darlin?
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Yep, forgot that one, but I'm sure that with Nixon being in the Whitehouse at the time had something to do with it.
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