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Old 01-15-11, 07:42 PM   #1
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Sold my car today.

The buyer just drove away $4000 poorer and in possession of a machine I hope to never own again. I actually feel sorry for him! But his loss is my gain I suppose. Now my sights are set on a Big Dummy and a whole world of bike adventures await!

I've been car-light for the last six months or so, only using my car for heavy hauls or long trips maybe once or twice a month, and those can be done with a Big Dummy or a rental car. I also have a BOB trailer that I use for grocery runs. In November I realized that with a little bit of effort I could go all out and be completely car-free, so I resolved to sell the car. Today I finally did it. Yay for me!
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Old 01-15-11, 07:51 PM   #2
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Well done -- I'm envious!
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When I sold my 97 Nissan Sentra, it was to a young brand new driver who was headed off to college. His dad helped him make the purchase and they did a lot of inspection, test drives, and even took it to his mechanic to look at. Everything was clean, and he bought it despite being for significantly more money than he originally wanted to spend. I think I remember the price being $3,500. Two weeks later he calls me and says the check engine light has come on and asks for advice. I think he was fishing for me to offer to fix it for him. I told him that check engine lights will be the most common problem with any small engined Japanese car of that age. That and CV boots. Then I added, "Welcome to the wonderful world of car ownership!" I am glad I got out of that racket!
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Sweet!

Unfortunately I am going in the other direction

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Awesome. I have two cars and am getting closer and closer to getting rid of them both and buying something smaller.

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When I sold my 97 Nissan Sentra, it was to a young brand new driver who was headed off to college. His dad helped him make the purchase and they did a lot of inspection, test drives, and even took it to his mechanic to look at. Everything was clean, and he bought it despite being for significantly more money than he originally wanted to spend. I think I remember the price being $3,500. Two weeks later he calls me and says the check engine light has come on and asks for advice. I think he was fishing for me to offer to fix it for him. I told him that check engine lights will be the most common problem with any small engined Japanese car of that age. That and CV boots. Then I added, "Welcome to the wonderful world of car ownership!" I am glad I got out of that racket!
That's one reason I got rid of my car. It was starting to get to the age where I was going to need to take it to the mechanic once a month. And I've never been one to fix my own car. I can fix anything on a bike though.
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Awesome! I got 4 grand for my car when I sold it too, and if I hadn't I wouldn't have been able to make the move to a new city at the time.

In what area do you live?
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In what area do you live?
Los Angeles. It helps that my work isn't too far from where I live and almost everything I need is close to home.
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Good going! It sounds like you're well prepared for the transition and you have a good attitude about it. I'm sure you'll do very well.
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you will love that big dummy. Congrats on making the leap.
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I'm envious too.
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Good for you... you're going to have other problems but the biggest one MONEY, will be a lot less. I rent when I need a car, I find Enterprise to be the best, it's also nice driving a new car and then dropping it off when you're finished with it instead of having that albatross sit in your driveway...Do the math too about every month or so and see what you're saving without the car, that always puts a big smile on my face
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Good for you... you're going to have other problems but the biggest one MONEY, will be a lot less. I rent when I need a car, I find Enterprise to be the best, it's also nice driving a new car and then dropping it off when you're finished with it instead of having that albatross sit in your driveway...Do the math too about every month or so and see what you're saving without the car, that always puts a big smile on my face
I did a back of the envelope calculation based on the time I owned the car. Considering everything from the cost of the car itself (minus the price I sold it for), insurance, gas, maintenance, and lost interest (since my money was tied up with the car rather than in a bank account) it cost me about $10 a day, or $0.35 per mile to own. And that's probably a lot lower than most people since I only drove it about 9500 miles a year on average. Anyway, $10 a day is serious money. That's enough to cover all my food costs.
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When I sold my 97 Nissan Sentra, it was to a young brand new driver who was headed off to college. His dad helped him make the purchase and they did a lot of inspection, test drives, and even took it to his mechanic to look at. Everything was clean, and he bought it despite being for significantly more money than he originally wanted to spend. I think I remember the price being $3,500. Two weeks later he calls me and says the check engine light has come on and asks for advice. I think he was fishing for me to offer to fix it for him. I told him that check engine lights will be the most common problem with any small engined Japanese car of that age. That and CV boots. Then I added, "Welcome to the wonderful world of car ownership!" I am glad I got out of that racket!
Those "Check Engine" lights are expensive to fix! I was at Sears auto repair and just happened to wander into the repair shop and overheard the cashier tell the driver the bill totaled over $600.00 because they had to fix the check engine light. The owner had no expression at all! I would have felt sick to my stomach if someone told me that but I guess motorist become used to paying high auto bills.

One thing about a car is you can never tell when it's going to have a problem. In the winter, the cold weather and ripped up streets cause all kinds of issues. You really have to to know how to fix many of them on an older vehicle or it will become a money pit quick.

I guess the young guy though he bought a bargain at $3,500 only to find out two weeks later the real cost was $4,000.00! Next year the cost will be more like $4,500.00 and the year after that will be even more. It never ends.

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The buyer just drove away $4000 poorer and in possession of a machine I hope to never own again. I actually feel sorry for him! But his loss is my gain I suppose. Now my sights are set on a Big Dummy and a whole world of bike adventures await!

I've been car-light for the last six months or so, only using my car for heavy hauls or long trips maybe once or twice a month, and those can be done with a Big Dummy or a rental car. I also have a BOB trailer that I use for grocery runs. In November I realized that with a little bit of effort I could go all out and be completely car-free, so I resolved to sell the car. Today I finally did it. Yay for me!
I think this forum is creating more carfree individuals than any website on the net. Almost every month we have a "Sold my Car" thread so the message is getting out. I see searches on Google directing people to this site all the time on the carfree movement which is good news.

I'm sure GM is not happy with what is going on here and you can see they sponsor this forum with the hope of getting us to buy their overpriced electric Volt. The beauty of being carfree is that we no longer need a combustion or electric engine for our daily needs.
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I'm sure GM is not happy with what is going on here and you can see they sponsor this forum with the hope of getting us to buy their overpriced electric Volt. The beauty of being carfree is that we no longer need a combustion or electric engine for our daily needs.
GM isn't sponsoring this site. These are "context sensitive" Google Ads. The Google bot sees something like "I freaking hate cars, cars suck! I wish all cars disappeared from Earth, cars are evil", so it happily serves car related ads. The BF admins should look into new Google AdSense interface it allows for far greater control over what categories of ads are being served, including Automotive category. I had Ford SUV ads all over my cycling blog and forum, no more. I also eliminated all the bul**** health improvement, weight loss and work at home ads.
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