Where in the USA would I have to move to, to avoid harsh Winters and humid Summers?
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All things are relative, of course, and California in general is certainly a more expensive place to live than, say, my old midwest 'rust belt' hometown. That said, with the housing market correction/crash over the past few years, it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. Unless you've got plenty of cash, some areas, e.g. San Francisco, are still really expensive.
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I know Forth Worth is hot but less humid than NYC, I think. One reason we want to see it in August, to see how bad it is To me anything below 80% is "low humidity" anyway, NYC can be really nasty in Summer.
This year we have unusually nice Summer in NYC, cooler than usually, so far at least. Only last 5 or so days were really hot, and still not as bad as I remember when it could be 90+/90+ in the middle of the night. The worst actually is when it's like 60F and 100%, you feel cold and you sweat, I hate that kind of weather. This can sometimes go on for days in NYC. Oh, and the humid Winters, when the cold seems to get through to your bones, it actually sometimes hurts when it's 20F and 90%. I can't physically tolerate that kind of freezing weather any more. But I have no issues riding in 100F all day, just gulp gallons of water.
But then again, what's worse 4 months of 90+ heat or 4 months of freezing Winter? I'll take the heat.
As Artkansas said before:
I'm totally, NOT into any Winter activities. Winter is completely dead time for me. It's been getting increasingly difficult for me to deal with Winter cold over the last several years. I play computer games and get fat. I think I will have much easier time dealing with hot climate than cold.
I tried to tough it out and commute through Winter, studded tires and all that. I managed one Winter. Last Winter I chickened out half the time. I actually stayed home on some really cold and humid days. It almost seems like my body isn't generating enough heat or something.
I even asked my doctor if there is some wrong with me. I know that older people have hard time dealing with cold but I'm only 45. But all my tests are very good. Definitely though, I don't take Winters as well as I did a decade ago.
Does that make sense?
This year we have unusually nice Summer in NYC, cooler than usually, so far at least. Only last 5 or so days were really hot, and still not as bad as I remember when it could be 90+/90+ in the middle of the night. The worst actually is when it's like 60F and 100%, you feel cold and you sweat, I hate that kind of weather. This can sometimes go on for days in NYC. Oh, and the humid Winters, when the cold seems to get through to your bones, it actually sometimes hurts when it's 20F and 90%. I can't physically tolerate that kind of freezing weather any more. But I have no issues riding in 100F all day, just gulp gallons of water.
But then again, what's worse 4 months of 90+ heat or 4 months of freezing Winter? I'll take the heat.
As Artkansas said before:
I tried to tough it out and commute through Winter, studded tires and all that. I managed one Winter. Last Winter I chickened out half the time. I actually stayed home on some really cold and humid days. It almost seems like my body isn't generating enough heat or something.
I even asked my doctor if there is some wrong with me. I know that older people have hard time dealing with cold but I'm only 45. But all my tests are very good. Definitely though, I don't take Winters as well as I did a decade ago.
Does that make sense?
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Adam, I'd suggest the Research Triangle (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) area of North Carolina. You're far enough south that there's very little, if any snow. Winters are still sort of cold, but nothing like what you'd get in New York. Plenty of IT work available if you wanted to do that (between Lenovo, SAS, the three big universities), probably enough diversity to do something else if you wanted. Rural NC is not far out from the Triangle, and as you get further out (like into the area off I-40 between Chapel Hill and Greensboro) things get super cheap. The only hitch is that in order for the area to be bike commute friendly, you'd need to live and work in the same corner of the Triangle (e.g. if you work for Duke University, you'll want to live in Durham).
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The weather forecasters in my area got the high temperature guess very wrong today. They guessed (and really that is how they tend to do things in Montana weather forecasting) 95º. At nearly 4:00 PM it is 99º and climbing. Our high temperatures usually occur at 6:00 PM. At least it's a dry heat with only 15% humidity.
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69 degrees now....gonna be sweating on the climb home
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6pm? That's an odd time for a high. Why is that?
We're going to have 100*F temperatures this week, with extremely high humidity. My clothes are already soaked.
We're going to have 100*F temperatures this week, with extremely high humidity. My clothes are already soaked.
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The high of the day in the summer here in central Texas is 4-6 PM. That happens especially if you're at the western edge of the local time zone. Daylight savings time also makes the high of the day appear to be one hour later. At local noon the sunshine may be brightest, but the heat hasn't been accumulating for hours and hours, so noon won't be the high of the day. It'll keep on heating up most of the afternoon.
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My sympathies. In the south we're more set up to deal with that kind of heat. (A light dusting of snow, on the other hand, can easily close a southern city down in the winter. I remember one year where no one in Austin could remember where the city's snowplow was stored. Eventually they found it in a hangar at the airport.)
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My sympathies. In the south we're more set up to deal with that kind of heat. (A light dusting of snow, on the other hand, can easily close a southern city down in the winter. I remember one year where no one in Austin could remember where the city's snowplow was stored. Eventually they found it in a hangar at the airport.)
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My sympathies. In the south we're more set up to deal with that kind of heat. (A light dusting of snow, on the other hand, can easily close a southern city down in the winter. I remember one year where no one in Austin could remember where the city's snowplow was stored. Eventually they found it in a hangar at the airport.)
My son was staying in Austin this spring/early summer. He said the heat was unbearable and the bus service was lousy, but he enjoyed riding his bike around large areas of the city.
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Dark and grey the last two days.....looking forward to the possibility of nice weather this weekend.
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I would kill for temps like that! It's over 90 every day here, and we're only on the fringe of the Great Heat Wave of 2011. And we need rain too--the grass is totally brown and the trees look thirsty and sad.
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What ever you do. Move west. I am so sick and tired of the north east. Go west and dont look back. I currently live just outside of Boston, which was a huge change for me coming from Florida. Florida is heaven compard to the weather, attitude, quality of life, and happiness in general up here.
I understand Florida is humid and warm. But If you stay near the coast it really is not bad at all. But I do understand some people just dont like the heat at all. Many people at work here start to complain about high 70's.
I think you should look into the Denver area. A little cold for my taste, but the outdoor recreation would make up for it (for me at least)
Also Salt Lake City.
Anyway, hope you find yourself a place you can call home and be happy with. Goodluck!
This is also interesting- (introductory video on the right)
https://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011
I understand Florida is humid and warm. But If you stay near the coast it really is not bad at all. But I do understand some people just dont like the heat at all. Many people at work here start to complain about high 70's.
I think you should look into the Denver area. A little cold for my taste, but the outdoor recreation would make up for it (for me at least)
Also Salt Lake City.
Anyway, hope you find yourself a place you can call home and be happy with. Goodluck!
This is also interesting- (introductory video on the right)
https://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011
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Sequim, WA. It's in the Olympic Mountains rain shadow, so 300 days of sunshine per year. There's great riding and touring, as well as camping, hiking, boating, fishing, etc. around the Olympic Peninsula. It's not too far from Seattle, and the Puget Sound area if large city type stuff is needed. If I could pick anywhere in the world, that'd be it just because of the amazing climate.
Sequim gets about the same annual rainfall as LA, but it's next door to the Hoh Rain Forest. It's an amazingly bio-diverse area with a very moderate, dry climate. Think lows in the low-30's in the winter and highs in the upper 60's to low 70's in the summer.
Sequim gets about the same annual rainfall as LA, but it's next door to the Hoh Rain Forest. It's an amazingly bio-diverse area with a very moderate, dry climate. Think lows in the low-30's in the winter and highs in the upper 60's to low 70's in the summer.
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As far as alternative lifestyles go, it's also a great place to be.
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Boulder. As far as cycling goes, it's year-round. You get the occasional heavy snow, but it's typically cleared in a couple days. That's when the buses are handy. It really isn't very cold in the winter, and you get dry heat in the summer. Denver really gets worse weather than Boulder. It's in a valley, in a little rain shadow.
As far as alternative lifestyles go, it's also a great place to be.
As far as alternative lifestyles go, it's also a great place to be.
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What kind of fleabag hotel were you staying in?
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Heck, sometimes we had hundreds of palms in our back yard alone. I lived close enough to Palm Springs that when I would run a sag stop for the Tour De Palm Springs, I'd hop on my bike and do a quick ride to the headquarters to pick up the truck.
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hopperja...
Nice find! Had never about Sequim, WA before - you are correct! Thanks for the info!
Adam...you have to travel to the Pacific Northwest.
I have heard of places to live that are "Hotter than Hell". I have lived in places that are hotter than hell, chances are I may end up in Hell, so while I have a choice - Im not gonna live in Hell!
Oregon Coast rainfall is appx. 5 feet of rain per year. Nice and cool temps. Dress to unimpress, and enjoy! I suffered climate schizophrenia in the Midwest for 40 years - take a trip here and see for yourself - rain doesn't kill you! Talk to a tree, rain is good!
Peace!
Nice find! Had never about Sequim, WA before - you are correct! Thanks for the info!
Adam...you have to travel to the Pacific Northwest.
I have heard of places to live that are "Hotter than Hell". I have lived in places that are hotter than hell, chances are I may end up in Hell, so while I have a choice - Im not gonna live in Hell!
Oregon Coast rainfall is appx. 5 feet of rain per year. Nice and cool temps. Dress to unimpress, and enjoy! I suffered climate schizophrenia in the Midwest for 40 years - take a trip here and see for yourself - rain doesn't kill you! Talk to a tree, rain is good!
Peace!
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