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    These are age, recent duty and being a safety volunteer.

    Seriously? Who in the heck would watch my kids while I was serving jury duty? I'm sure I could bring my kids to any of the courthouses in my province. lol Would they watch the kids for me?

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    Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!

    The courts decided to excuse me from jury duty.
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    glad to hear they saw reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!

    The courts decided to excuse me from jury duty.
    Good to know, I read this last night when I got home from work last night. I've never been up for jury duty, but I don't know how I'd manage if it ever happened.

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    I just got a summons. I may do the ride to Jury Duty thing; I think it's downtown which is only 10 miles from my house. I think I can lock up at a tavern such that my bike won't be visible from the street; I'll check with the tavern owner before Jury Duty day. That way, once the place opens for lunch they will be there to watch the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwiding View Post
    Good to know, I read this last night when I got home from work last night. I've never been up for jury duty, but I don't know how I'd manage if it ever happened.
    It's an interesting experience. Up to now, the worst part was disassembling my Zefal pump for the security guards, and then they kept it for the day once they were satisfied that it wouldn't explode. There were no bike racks, but I found something secure to attach my bike to.

    Arrive early for the best seats. Bring an empty water bottle to fill up once past the guards. Take something to read for several hours. Take extra precautions to not pick up the germs of the other jurors.

    In Indio, the court had two jury waiting rooms separated by a corridor. Most jurors, never caught on to this and packed themselves into chairs into the first room. The second room had cubicles and tables, few people and the view was better. So explore your surroundings when you arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    It's an interesting experience. Up to now, the worst part was disassembling my Zefal pump for the security guards, and then they kept it for the day once they were satisfied that it wouldn't explode. There were no bike racks, but I found something secure to attach my bike to.

    Arrive early for the best seats. Bring an empty water bottle to fill up once past the guards. Take something to read for several hours. Take extra precautions to not pick up the germs of the other jurors.

    In Indio, the court had two jury waiting rooms separated by a corridor. Most jurors, never caught on to this and packed themselves into chairs into the first room. The second room had cubicles and tables, few people and the view was better. So explore your surroundings when you arrive.
    That's a good reminder about the security precautions in many courthouses. A couple years ago I had to go to a courthouse on a weekly basis for about 6 weeks. The first time, I left my backpack at home because I didn't think they'd allow it, but I brought a little multi-tool just in case. The security guard freaked out about the multi-tool and made me leave it outside with my bike. (I did find out that the backpack was allowed.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    It's an interesting experience. Up to now, the worst part was disassembling my Zefal pump for the security guards, and then they kept it for the day once they were satisfied that it wouldn't explode.
    Yes, I had a similar experience. Does anyone here know the legal justification for the security searches of jurors? I remember when I was on a jury in New Jersey that there was a provision for jurors to bypass the security search if they had objections. The reason given at the time was that the 4th amendment prohibited warrantless searches and therefore people could not be compelled to consent to a search of their person. Everyone entering the courthouse voluntarily (or involuntarily in the case of criminal suspects) did have to go through the search procedure - but jurors could bypass it since they were being compelled to be there without any presumption of wrongdoing. [Searches at airports, etc. are similarly held to not violate the 4th since the people are there voluntarily.]

    When called for jury duty in California I asked about any such exemption and was told that I would be subject to arrest if I declined the search and that I could ask the judge for an explanation after I was searched and in the courthouse. Needless to say the judge was not at all willing to give any explanation or legal citation. Anyone know of relevant citations to SCOTUS or other court decisions?

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    I wish I'd seen this post awhile back as I found myself in similar circumstance I do however have a motor scooter now but Haven't had a car in well over 6 years. I came up for jury duty in my locality where we serve for like 5 days straight. I was about to start a new job in a restaurant and while the winters here in SC are pretty mild, the rules of jury duty don't allow one to bring items into the court house. And I mean like nothing you can get by with a cell phone but must surrender it to the bailiffs and it's a nitemare to get it back. I'd been through the hassles of trying to get into the courthouse with my courier bag or back pack and them having no concept that 'no I don't own a car I can leave this in'. Anyway back to my story I explained to the clerk of courts that I was starting a new position in a restaurant that was about to open(after being unemployed for some time), and missing a week when it opened would most likely cost me my position. They didn't care, oh and I don't own a car and the courthouse doesn't have a bike rack anywhere near it, and the afore mentioned problem of bringing anything into the courthouse. Nope didn't care, so I filled out all the paper work and luckily I did manage I guess to get out of serving due to the fact I had in fact been named in a lawsuit, that I beat. Time went by, and I weighed rather or not I would go, and I decided not to, let them lock me up, and cost me my job, if I show up, and miss a weeks work I'll be out a job anyway. The restaurant, just doesn't care about 'civic duty', particularly the people I work for. Needless to say the week went by and I never got picked up on a bench warrent for failure to appear. Couple weeks ago I got a letter excusing me of the jury duty at the end of 2011! Weeks after the fact, gotta love bureaucratic agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    Yes, I had a similar experience. Does anyone here know the legal justification for the security searches of jurors?
    Probably because the guards don't know what you are. Everyone gets searched. I figure it's part of the inconvenience that is jury duty and come prepared... except for my dear Zefal pump.
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    our closest federal courthouse is 65 miles and almost an hour and a half drive by car, a little further by bike. There would be no way to get there otherwise, it's out of the way with no bus service from here.

    I've always wanted to ride up that way, but I doubt my bike would survive being locked up outside in the horrible neighborhood the courthouse is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    It's an interesting experience. Up to now, the worst part was disassembling my Zefal pump for the security guards, and then they kept it for the day once they were satisfied that it wouldn't explode. There were no bike racks, but I found something secure to attach my bike to.

    Arrive early for the best seats. Bring an empty water bottle to fill up once past the guards. Take something to read for several hours. Take extra precautions to not pick up the germs of the other jurors.

    In Indio, the court had two jury waiting rooms separated by a corridor. Most jurors, never caught on to this and packed themselves into chairs into the first room. The second room had cubicles and tables, few people and the view was better. So explore your surroundings when you arrive.
    I'll keep this in mind if I ever get called in. I've moved from state to state so much that in all honesty, I'd never know if I did get called up for it.

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    Yep, the usually carried bike tools and patch kits carried by cyclists are an issue. And most court houses do not have storage lockers outside of the security desk area. There is one court house in Milwaukee that is next to a public museum, and the museum has storage lockers, but the officer at the court's security desk might or might not tell you about the lockers in the museum.
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