Walk how far before opting for the bike?
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Anything up to 1.5km and I'll walk. If I have time and its less than 70km I'll take the bicycle. Anything over 70km or if I'm short on time the motorcycle gets a turn. The car... that gets used if I have no other options.
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I do enough walking ON the job; my workplace is about 5-1/4 acres under roof, and I'm all over the place in there. That's enough, more makes the calves stiffen up. Besides, pedaling brings a smile to my face, EVERY TIME.
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Sort of off topic; but, I was going to mark google maps with "live here" "walk to here" "ride to here" type of tags; but, I can not figure out how. Can someone tell me how to mark up a map and post it?
https://maps.google.com.hk/maps?q=xin...nt=3,0x0:0x0,0
https://maps.google.com.hk/maps?q=xin...nt=3,0x0:0x0,0
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Typically those who walk barefoot have stronger feet. It does depend on how you walk too. Supportive shoes tend to be nothing more than a crutch. Think of this, if you walk and repetitively strike your heel into the ground hard, that isn't good for your feet. So the supportive and cushioned shoes help reduce this impact, but it is still there.
By walking in minimalist shoes, or barefoot, I find that I really pay attention to how I walk and therefore walk better (normally slower). There are several benefits to barefoot walking, but you have to be listening to your body. Heel striking barefoot on concrete would hurt after a while.
By walking in minimalist shoes, or barefoot, I find that I really pay attention to how I walk and therefore walk better (normally slower). There are several benefits to barefoot walking, but you have to be listening to your body. Heel striking barefoot on concrete would hurt after a while.
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Completely depends on the day and my mood. Less than 1.5 miles, I usually walk, after that, up to about 10 miles, I'll bike it. Beyond that and the weather, I'll drive it if necessary or wait for a better day.....
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I usually walk to places in my neighborhood that are up to 1.5 miles one way, and pedal or drive to some others that are 4 - 6 miles away. One of these days I'm going to walk the 4+ miles to my GFs place, and walk back the next day.
Most of my neighbors think I'm strange for walking "all that distance" to the store (the up to 1.5 mile trip) when I can ride my bike or drive, as well as riding my bike to work (the 6 mile journey) when I can drive. Kind of like the returning Harley rider who was surprised when I told him I was going to ride 50 miles all in 1 day.
Most of my neighbors think I'm strange for walking "all that distance" to the store (the up to 1.5 mile trip) when I can ride my bike or drive, as well as riding my bike to work (the 6 mile journey) when I can drive. Kind of like the returning Harley rider who was surprised when I told him I was going to ride 50 miles all in 1 day.
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If I'm going somewhere that is less than three miles away, I always walk there. If I'm going someplace that is less than six miles away, I sometimes walk and sometimes ride. If it is less than three hundred miles away, I ride my bike. If it is more than three hundred miles away, I may use the train and/or ride my bike. Buses and cars are only used as a last resort.
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I would walk about 3 miles, bike about 25 miles one way if commuting to work, 30+ miles take the car.
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Lots of predetermining factors to take into consideration, but I'd say if its more than 2 miles, I'm getting the bike.
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I think my limit for walking to work or store would be 1.5 to 2 miles. As it is I walk 3-5 miles for exercise every other day and I enjoy it immensely, but I would not want to have to carry packages or bags that far.
Currently my bike is my go-to option for most errands under 30-miles R/T, and I think my absolute limit for biking on an errand would be 40-50 miles R/T. This is based on my suspicion that I would be physically incapable of finishing anything further in a timely (to me) fashion.
Currently my bike is my go-to option for most errands under 30-miles R/T, and I think my absolute limit for biking on an errand would be 40-50 miles R/T. This is based on my suspicion that I would be physically incapable of finishing anything further in a timely (to me) fashion.
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But if you carry the load in a backpack, it makes the exercise much more effective.
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I walk more often than I bike. In fact, in conjunction with the bus, I'll walk just about anywhere. But knees and feet start to hurt after five or six miles, and a typical trip for me involves no more than a couple of miles of walking. I mostly use the bike for trips when I need to carry large and/or heavy items, or just for fun, or when I want to go somewhere that's just not practical to walk to. For example, there's a lake I like to visit occasionally, and while it's only a couple of miles to get there, if I want to go around the lake it adds another 2.5 miles or so, and then I'd have to walk home again. That also requires walking up the brutally steep hill to get there. That sucks on a bike, too, but overall the trip is MUCH easier. I can also take the bus there, but to do so requires me to go downtown first (the opposite direction) on one bus, then catch another bus to the lake. Just getting there that way takes a good 45 minutes, assuming I time the buses right. And coming back takes even longer because of the way the bus route runs. So biking definitely wins in that situation. In fact, I may ride there tomorrow.
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I hate running and not a big fan of walking.
I have a bike(20" minivelo with a basket ) locked up outside my building and use that to go around. I use other bikes when I have to travel more than 10km.
I have a bike(20" minivelo with a basket ) locked up outside my building and use that to go around. I use other bikes when I have to travel more than 10km.
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I walk more often than I bike. In fact, in conjunction with the bus, I'll walk just about anywhere. But knees and feet start to hurt after five or six miles, and a typical trip for me involves no more than a couple of miles of walking. I mostly use the bike for trips when I need to carry large and/or heavy items, or just for fun, or when I want to go somewhere that's just not practical to walk to. For example, there's a lake I like to visit occasionally, and while it's only a couple of miles to get there, if I want to go around the lake it adds another 2.5 miles or so, and then I'd have to walk home again. That also requires walking up the brutally steep hill to get there. That sucks on a bike, too, but overall the trip is MUCH easier. I can also take the bus there, but to do so requires me to go downtown first (the opposite direction) on one bus, then catch another bus to the lake. Just getting there that way takes a good 45 minutes, assuming I time the buses right. And coming back takes even longer because of the way the bus route runs. So biking definitely wins in that situation. In fact, I may ride there tomorrow.
I have the same problem though. A couple of miles and I'm suffering from knee pain (although if I was standing in my driveway for the same period of time, I'd have more knee pain.)
Still... a nice walk is a wonderful thing. You get to see lots of things you never see on a car or even a bike.
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That's another great thing about a bike ... it's very easy on joints. At least until you actually do impact something... then it gets brutal.
I have the same problem though. A couple of miles and I'm suffering from knee pain (although if I was standing in my driveway for the same period of time, I'd have more knee pain.)
Still... a nice walk is a wonderful thing. You get to see lots of things you never see on a car or even a bike.
I have the same problem though. A couple of miles and I'm suffering from knee pain (although if I was standing in my driveway for the same period of time, I'd have more knee pain.)
Still... a nice walk is a wonderful thing. You get to see lots of things you never see on a car or even a bike.
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My knees don't get really bad unless I try to run, or jump off of something, or if I have to stand for a very long time. Biking is mostly pretty easy on my knees as long as I don't push too hard. I just have to remember to spin instead of mash, which can be difficult because I've always been more of a masher. Also, before I moved here and started walking everywhere, my knees were actually worse. When I first moved here I was taking a prescription daily to dull the pain, and I could still only walk a mile or two before hurting. Biking was only a little better. But I guess all the walking I've done throughout the winter has strengthened my knees somehow, because now I can walk three or four times as far without feeling anything but a dull, subtle ache, which is more of a nuisance than a true pain. But running is a big no-no for me, not that I ever liked running anyway. And both of you, standing is the worst. In fact, I think my last job, where I would stand on concrete for 8+ hours ever day, is what screwed up my knees in the first place.
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OK, I guess I have the exception that 'confuses' the rule. Or, a couple:
1. The other day, I took my nephew (9) to the local convenience store; it was 2 blocks further than we've walked in over a year. Each way. But he wanted a Honey Bun, and I wanted chocolate milk, so....
2. This evening, my neph wanted to "go for a walk". Too chilly/windy for him to ride, and I had a BAD day (shoulder's still on fire, been home 4 hours), but we went walking. Odd thing about the block we live on -- all the way around it is a MILE! I measured it a couple years ago!
1. The other day, I took my nephew (9) to the local convenience store; it was 2 blocks further than we've walked in over a year. Each way. But he wanted a Honey Bun, and I wanted chocolate milk, so....
2. This evening, my neph wanted to "go for a walk". Too chilly/windy for him to ride, and I had a BAD day (shoulder's still on fire, been home 4 hours), but we went walking. Odd thing about the block we live on -- all the way around it is a MILE! I measured it a couple years ago!
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OK, I guess I have the exception that 'confuses' the rule. Or, a couple:
1. The other day, I took my nephew (9) to the local convenience store; it was 2 blocks further than we've walked in over a year. Each way. But he wanted a Honey Bun, and I wanted chocolate milk, so....
2. This evening, my neph wanted to "go for a walk". Too chilly/windy for him to ride, and I had a BAD day (shoulder's still on fire, been home 4 hours), but we went walking. Odd thing about the block we live on -- all the way around it is a MILE! I measured it a couple years ago!
1. The other day, I took my nephew (9) to the local convenience store; it was 2 blocks further than we've walked in over a year. Each way. But he wanted a Honey Bun, and I wanted chocolate milk, so....
2. This evening, my neph wanted to "go for a walk". Too chilly/windy for him to ride, and I had a BAD day (shoulder's still on fire, been home 4 hours), but we went walking. Odd thing about the block we live on -- all the way around it is a MILE! I measured it a couple years ago!
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My knees don't get really bad unless I try to run, or jump off of something, or if I have to stand for a very long time. Biking is mostly pretty easy on my knees as long as I don't push too hard. I just have to remember to spin instead of mash, which can be difficult because I've always been more of a masher. Also, before I moved here and started walking everywhere, my knees were actually worse. When I first moved here I was taking a prescription daily to dull the pain, and I could still only walk a mile or two before hurting. Biking was only a little better. But I guess all the walking I've done throughout the winter has strengthened my knees somehow, because now I can walk three or four times as far without feeling anything but a dull, subtle ache, which is more of a nuisance than a true pain. But running is a big no-no for me, not that I ever liked running anyway. And both of you, standing is the worst. In fact, I think my last job, where I would stand on concrete for 8+ hours ever day, is what screwed up my knees in the first place.
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Last year, he wanted to take his new scooter on that trip; along the way, he HOPPED the thing over breaks in the pavement!
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For commuting to work, my general guidelines would be to walk 0 to 2 miles, bike 2 to 5 miles, bus or drive over 5. In actual practice, I bike to work six miles because that's where work is and the bike trip is faster than the bus trip, and I bike less than two miles when I am running errands because it's faster.
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For commuting to work, my general guidelines would be to walk 0 to 2 miles, bike 2 to 5 miles, bus or drive over 5. In actual practice, I bike to work six miles because that's where work is and the bike trip is faster than the bus trip, and I bike less than two miles when I am running errands because it's faster.
ONE day, it was fun -- I've never been in a bus that went down a road sideways! (icy road....)