I live in a small flat but could do basic maintenance in my sitting room but wouldnt mind a secure garage/back yard to wash my bike in as although I can do that here, I would worry about leaving my bike outside facing the street unattended.
Thats while i nipped inside to change the water which I always end up doing as I would need to go up the stairs in the communal hallway and into the kitchen which doesnt have a window, only a small one in toilet room.
The storage unit trend is borne from the fact that people are accumulators. Their decision making matrix is skewed- they ask themselves if it's a 'Want' before 'Need' and usually don't even bother getting to 'Need' if they answered 'Want' in the affirmative.
Or could be like my wife, who grew up poor, and is determined to ensure our kids aren't deprived like she was. Every single time we go to Dollar Tree, she ends up buying the kids some bauble or other useless item
I might be trailing away from the original intent of the thread but just wanted to point something out. By looking at this thread it is awesome to see how down to earth cyclist really are. Coming from a motorcycle forum where people tend to boast about crap they own and with the bigger is better attitude I am simply relieved to see that there is people with common sense and humanity in this world. So far Ive only spent one day lurking these forums and I gotta say I love it. Helpful people with good intentions and great mentality. keep it up :thumbs:
wet bike? How can that happen? (written during a drought--my bikes haven't been wet in like two months.)
For a few years I lived in a house with a heated garage, so the bike would dry off by morning even when it was encrusted with snow and ice. Now I'm living in an upper duplex. I have to put the bikes in a shared basement if they're wet. (One neighbor kid "borrowed" my bike but did return it when I threatened to call the police.) Soon I'll be moving to a house. No garage, but there is a locked shed in the back yard, so that's where wet bikes will go. No heat, so they'll still be wet in the morning this winter.
I own my house outright, it's 1,400 square feet, with an acre and a half of land, and a large two car garage, with enough space to build a second floor if I wanted to do so.
It was fun for awhile, but I'm over it. I'd love to downsize, but the crappy housing market would kill me financially.
One thing that's great for getting me to downsize is to watch an episode or two of "Hoarders." How people manage to fill up storage unit after storage unit with crap and not go nuts from the pressure boggles my mind.
Good point on the snow melt/heat garage matter. I have a "parasite-heated" garage on the house and the bikes go there in the winter if it snows or rains, about 45 deg typically. The snow machinery goes to the outer barn that stays at ambient because the heated snow equipment performs poorly when it touches snow. No tubing on it but the whole snow clog bonding issue is annoying. The bikes seem to do well with the 45 deg garage, but the rest of the year the main one goes in the living room. Luxuries yes indeed. In college I used to get 3 bikes in a 8x12 dorm room with a desk and bed and still set the stand up for work. A lot of the time I would just carry the stuff outside to work on the front steps.
In many ways, having a garage is more important for a person who is car free than for a person who isn't. You can park your car on the street with no real concerns - even if you go out of town for a week. Your car won't mind if it's rained on for days at a time. But both of these are problematic for bikes; the reason so many people on this thread have mentioned keeping their bikes in their apartments is because of this need.
Of course, if you own a house a garage is useful for other reasons anyway - as a place to keep the lawnmower, ladders, gardening implements, tools, beer fridge, etc.
Like ILTB said, other housing size issues are not really related to biking; a single person with a bike doesn't need a more or less room inside than a single person with two cars.
Either way, I haven't really had a problem with bikes rusting under any conditions.. I must be lucky.
However, cars on the street can be concerning... my car, which is parked 90% of the time, just suffered $4000 worth of damage from being smashed into. On the one hand, my first thought was "at least it wasn't my bike" (my car has insurance), but it is yet another thing that makes me question whether I really want to own a car. But alas, for the $1k that I spend on the car a year, it always works out cheaper to just keep the thing than to rent one whenever I need it.
In addition, starting a car when it's -30 is really quite bad for it. Not to mention the time it takes to scrape off the windows and get the engine warmed up. Most people I know like to keep cars under cover for this reason. Oh, and the frequent golfball-sized hail that we get. That **** can break windshields, let alone pepper a car with dents.
Back to the original thread... I can understand the sentiment of being proud to have few posessions, but the longer I live in one city, the more I seem to accumulate. Not spending money on my car means more money for hobbies, and my boyfriend and I have managed to stuff a 2-bedroom apartment with things like skis (downhill and xc), home brew equipment, 2 guitars and a keyboard, ~8 houseplants, 7 plantar boxes and two hanging plantars on the balcony, multiple bikes, backpacking gear, photo stuff, bike touring gear, free weights... and yeah, while some of them just sit around most of the year (e.g. skis), they sure come in handy for the two weeks that I use them.
The first challenge is to pick a location that will work for us ... and that may take some thought.
But the next challenge is ... what kind of house.
Ideally we'd like ...
Lawn -- our previous house had a great yard. It was mostly an English country garden style. Flowers and bushes everywhere! We had a postage stamp piece of grass, and that was it. Ideally, we'd like a place with a similar garden, or maybe a sort of rock/gravel surface, or combination of the two. Something that would not require much maintenance.
Garage -- we currently have one that is attached to the house with an internal entrance, and we love it. We'd like a house with that.
Bicycle Room -- we'd like a room near the garage for bicycles ... for storage and for a workshop.
Laundry & Ensuite near the garage and bicycle room, for a quick wash up after a big ride or after maintaining the bicycles.
Exercise Room -- could be the Bicycle Room, or a separate room, for bicycles on trainers, the weight lifting equipment, etc.
Houses here don't often have basements, and tend to be quite small, so the last three items could be quite a challenge to find.
I'm not car free, but I'd like a garage for doing bike maintenance/storage in and to do trainer riding in the winter months more so than I want a place to store my car. House size is not so much a factor of need as it is want. I mean how much house does anyone really need.
I've got a 3 car garage, and only 1 car (the wife's). The house is 1200 sqr ft, plus partially finished basement. We fill up the storage space pretty well.
I would like a four car garage with sleeping loft, but three would do ...
This thread was bumped from 2012. We were just getting ready to move from a duplex (800 sf) to a three story house (1400 sf). For a family of five, the house is small by American standards, but the size has been comfortable for us. One attraction was a bedroom for everybody, whereas my son and DIL had been sleeping in the living room at the duplex. Weirdly, my young grandso thinks his bedroom, alone up on the third floor, is haunted. So he sleeps in the living room, and we're back to square one on that issue. Living with a young family after being alone for years has both challenges and rewards, but mainly it's a blessing.
We have no garage, unfortunately. The one car sleeps in the driveway. There is a door off the driveway onto the basement stairway landing. That's mainly I where keep my bike. Sometimes I lock it to the porch railing for short periods. My son left his son's bike unlocked on the front porch for a few minutes and it was stolen. I told him that would happen, but did he listen? :50:
So how much housing does a cyclist need? Our small house has been very comfortable, with three riders in the family. The location, on the other hand.... But that's for a different thread.