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Old 10-28-13, 09:10 PM   #1
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Are you considering moving? Where would you go?

I'm currently living in an older suburb. Have a huge lawn to mow. Neighbors not too friendly. Lots of extra space for bicycles and ... basically ... crap.

But I get a nice long ride every morning I commute. Good groceries nearby. Some shops. Nearby cycling facilities.

But it really doesn't feel like I'm living in a community. I'd like a downtown location where I know a few people. But, as another cycling friend mentioned, "I'd move downtown if there was a place to buy groceries".

Which is kind of false. There are no supermarkets, but there are some pricier marts around. Pubs and restaurants galore, but no hardware store.

What would you do? Where would you move?
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I'm starting to think about moving. I moved to my present location only 14 months ago. I thought I would love it here because it's so close to work. But there were four shootings near my house this summer, and a bad mugging right on my corner. It's gotten to where I don't like to even go out after dark unless I'm getting a ride in a car.

My last neighborhood was great. I lived a short block from the river, and two blocks from an artsy-fartsy district. After dinner walks were so beautiful, and the Rivertrail was two minutes away--a great motor-free trail system that led to most of my favorite destinations for shopping and recreation. There was definitely a strong sense of community. I hope I can move back there before too long.
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Are you up for moving to Portland TC?
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I'm starting to think about moving. I moved to my present location only 14 months ago. I thought I would love it here because it's so close to work. But there were four shootings near my house this summer, and a bad mugging right on my corner. It's gotten to where I don't like to even go out after dark unless I'm getting a ride in a car.

My last neighborhood was great. I lived a short block from the river, and two blocks from an artsy-fartsy district. After dinner walks were so beautiful, and the Rivertrail was two minutes away--a great motor-free trail system that led to most of my favorite destinations for shopping and recreation. There was definitely a strong sense of community. I hope I can move back there before too long.
Were you unaware of the crime problem in the area of your present location?
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Rowan and I have just moved ... about 3 weeks ago.

We were living in a nice little small town (approx. 2400 people), in a beautiful old house. We were within easy walking distance of work, the main street (shopping area), the library, my church, and everything. We could use our canoe in the local river, not far away, or in a big lake about 25 km away. And there was quite a variety of good cycling around.

Problem was ... there wasn't much in the way of opportunities.


So we decided to move.

We are now living in a city (approx. 240,000 people), in a satisfactory house, in a good location, with great views over the water. Work is now 4 km away, there's a large shopping centre about 3 km away (and lots more shopping just out the door from where I work), the library is about 800 metres from where I work, and I haven't found a church yet (we just got here). We are about 30 metres from a MUP, and we've been exploring other cycling possibilities as well over the past few days. And we could put our canoe into the river about 200 metres from where we live.

And there are opportunities! There is an outdoor workout area at the park just up the road. There are gyms with indoor pools. There are arts and entertainment opportunities. There are education opportunities. And heaps of beaches all around. Lots to see and do.

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My Dad just celebrated his 88th birthday. Since he has a reverse mortgage on the house, he's not going anywhere. There are more tech jobs in the general area where he lives than where I live. So it's a temptation.

But it's much more expensive than Little Rock. And Little Rock just got named the top place to live by Kiplinger magazine. My daily "commute" looks like this.



I've already raved about how well the neighborhood is set up in other posts. So I'm definitely hesitant about leaving.
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Were you unaware of the crime problem in the area of your present location?
No, this has always been a fairly high crime area--B&Es, auto breakins, drug sales, and so forth. Somebody tried to jack my bike here a few years before I moved in. That's life in the big city. But the shootings and mugging are a new thing this year and a lot scarier.
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No, this has always been a fairly high crime area--B&Es, auto breakins, drug sales, and so forth. Somebody tried to jack my bike here a few years before I moved in. That's life in the big city. But the shootings and mugging are a new thing this year and a lot scarier.
Why would you choose to live in an area like that?

What's the appeal?
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The Portland area is getting bad also. I'm thinking about moving to Green Valley, AZ or Hilo, HI.

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I've lived at the same location for 15 years and have been in this city for 25 years. When I was younger I've moved a lot and hate going from one place to another. The only things that would make me move from my current location would be, if crime got really bad, or I got an excellent job oppourtinity somewhere else.
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Our New Home

My current commute ... I could walk or cycle it, but I haven't yet.






A view, from the top of that bridge, toward where we currently live.




A park a little way along the foreshore which has one of several sets of outdoor exercise equipment. It is about a 3 km round trip walk there and back along one of the local MUPs






And, of course, two of the many nearby beaches.





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I would like to move from where I am to anywhere that was more cycle friendly...

I love Boston as well as a variety of smaller towns scattered about the country. If work was not a necessity I would be looking for a small to medium sized town with access to Amtrak and the necessities; primarily access to groceries, reasonable medical care and a reasonable crime rate. I don't know if the weather would make a difference for me or not. I prefer not to be too cold for too long though.

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My current commute ... I could walk or cycle it, but I haven't yet.
I used to live in Hobart. It's not the end of the world - but you can see it from there.
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I used to live in Hobart. It's not the end of the world - but you can see it from there.
The End of the World is just down the road.



We haven't been down there since 2009.

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Yes. Across the country. Long Beach CA, Northridge Ca, San Francisco Ca, Boston Ma, Charolette NC, Hartford Ct, and Detroit MI
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The only place I would think about moving to would be an even bigger patch (say, a hundred acres or more) of forest land somewhere in NE Oregon, say between John Day and La Grande. I would have to be retired by then, as I doubt I could find a steady job in the area. But I think I'll stay where I am.
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I have given it great thought over the years, and would LOVE to move. My first choice would be Denmark, Likely in Copenhagen. Otherwise there is always the Netherlands and Amsterdam. Within the United states I guess NYC is a good choice(I like dense urban). I'm just not keen on the American obsession with safety equipment so I would rather leave if given the option. I have had snobs pull over in their cars and ask me where my helmet was, in which I asked where their was? This kind of thing just would not happen in Denmark, or even the Netherlands. Wearing a helmet would get you questions there. I already have the proper bicycle, so I'm set!
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I have given it great thought over the years, and would LOVE to move. My first choice would be Denmark, Likely in Copenhagen. Otherwise there is always the Netherlands and Amsterdam.
How could you do that? You'd need to get an EU visa to live in either country.
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Wow!! I'm so surprised that many of you are thinking about changing cities or even your country.

I'd be reluctant to move cities just for better cycling. I'd be reluctant to leave friends and/or family behind.
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.... My daily "commute" looks like this.


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It must be rad to commute by helicopter, but it seems like it may be expensive...
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I'll be retiring in 10 years and am kind of window shopping as to where in the US I want to retire based on livability, cycling, cost, and the ability to get a part time or seasonal job if I wanted. I've started at the top of the list and am working my way down on zillow and google maps.

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It must be rad to commute by helicopter, but it seems like it may be expensive...
Helicopter, no. Gossamer Condor!

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During my sojourn in traffic today I got to thinking about all the places I have ridden and visited. Probably my favorite is the Twin Cities (St Pauls/Minneapolis) however their winter weather leaves a lot to be desired. I have ridden up there multiple times and have always been impressed by how well they various areas are connected, as well as how much there is to do. I have ridden with the ABCE Tour 2 times and on my own 3 times and have had a great time every time I have ridden up there.
@gerv, is there a better choice of neighborhoods that would better serve your needs? Maybe rent your house out and find a smaller place that suits you better? I have a cousin that owns 3 houses and doesn't live in any of them, she lives in an apartment in DC within walking distance of her work.

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@gerv, is there a better choice of neighborhoods that would better serve your needs? Maybe rent your house out and find a smaller place that suits you better? I have a cousin that owns 3 houses and doesn't live in any of them, she lives in an apartment in DC within walking distance of her work.

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Sometimes we do get in a rut and prevent ourselves from seeing possibilities. Yes.. there are all kinds of solutions. For me, my current house is way larger than I need. (Not to mention the damned yard and yard work..) In fact, for the last two years I have been warehousing bicycles for the local co-op. Great for them and I still have space left over.

Probably I should think of down-sizing.

As for Minneapolis, yeah... one of the nicer US cities. Des Moines has a few things in common. Great cycling location. Cheap real estate. Lots of work.
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