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Old 11-24-13, 01:03 PM   #1
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Thoroughly Modern: the bicycle

Here's an interesting video on the changes that bicycles have made to society.


"There is no doubt that the car age is coming to an end.... The bicycle will always be there long after the car is dead and buried." Paul Atterbury - social historian.
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Interesting how bicycles affected women's independence. Note how the clothing changed quickly. Corsets out. Culottes in.
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Interesting how bicycles affected women's independence. Note how the clothing changed quickly. Corsets out. Culottes in.
Positively subversive.
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I saw this a number times. It's funny how the "Rover bicycle" and others at the time had the geometry wrong as people struggled to balance them. The hard rubber tires on cobblestone roads must have been alot of fun!
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I think it's cool that people are still riding those old bikes...well over 100 years of fun and transportation on the same machine.
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Positively subversive.
As long as they're not showing any ankle. I mean you have to draw the line somewhere, or else where would it end?
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As long as they're not showing any ankle. I mean you have to draw the line somewhere, or else where would it end?
Foot fetishists have all the fun.
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With gas prices going up quickly in many places, more people will eventually be switching to bikes.
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From my experience, it seemed like $4.00 was the price point where people started getting panicky about gas prices.
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I'm glad I get to laugh at gas prices.
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As long as they're not showing any ankle. I mean you have to draw the line somewhere, or else where would it end?
This calls for a link to one of my favorite 'Hark, a vagrant' comics: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=331
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This calls for a link to one of my favorite 'Hark, a vagrant' comics: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=331
And from that link comes this one, an actual cartoon from the 1890s:

http://www.oldeyankeemap.com/Rendere...therew.tif.jpg
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And from that link comes this one, an actual cartoon from the 1890s:

http://www.oldeyankeemap.com/Rendere...therew.tif.jpg
*sniff* It makes me proud to be a new woman.
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With gas prices going up quickly in many places, more people will eventually be switching to bikes.
Around here they seem to go to the 50cc scooters. Last time gas prices spike the number of scooters went way up. Talked to one local sales shop and he said his sales had nearly doubled. Here in NC you don't have to have a license or insurance to operate one as long as it is under 50cc. I have a couple of larger ones that get in the 75 mpg range.

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I'm glad I get to laugh at gas prices.
Y'know, I used to feel that way, but the reality is (sadly) that elevated gas prices cause the prices of nearly everything to go up. High gas prices = instant inflation b/c petroleum plays a key role in the production and distribution of so many goods, and it also plays a big part in many services where mobility is a factor.

So, whether you drive or not, high gas prices are no laughing matter. OTOH, *if* the laws of supply/demand are still in effect in regards to petroleum prices, then if more ppl make the choice to drive less, it will decrease demand, increase supply, and drop prices.

Still, it's gonna take a whole lot of ppl driving a whole lot less to have a positive impact. The best I hope for is that we can slow down gas-inflation.
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Pretty cool video, thanks for posting it.
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Y'know, I used to feel that way, but the reality is (sadly) that elevated gas prices cause the prices of nearly everything to go up. High gas prices = instant inflation b/c petroleum plays a key role in the production and distribution of so many goods, and it also plays a big part in many services where mobility is a factor.
One side effect that is interesting is the impact on manufacturing and food procurement. Higher energy costs tend to favor organic and local farming. Likewise, a little benefit to local manufacturing. Your local frame builder might appreciate this.
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This calls for a link to one of my favorite 'Hark, a vagrant' comics: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=331
First of all, I'm going to have to use "You see me rollin' up, pops, you step aside," at some point in a conversation within the next week.

Secondly, there's a link there that I've spent all day reading on and off during breaks at work.
http://books.google.com/books?id=uS9...cipede&f=false
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Secondly, there's a link there that I've spent all day reading on and off during breaks at work.
http://books.google.com/books?id=uS9...cipede&f=false
That's a great link. A view of the velocipede from 1869. It talks about people doing centuries on a velocipede, and how riders used headlamps.

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I read somewhere or other that the one thing that truly powered women's lib was the bike. Unlike a horse or car, a bike did not require a man. Saddling and harnessing a horse just wasn't something a woman did easily. Cars were not reliable and needed cranked.. and women did not drive them. Not to mention the costs of a horse or car.

But a bike.. all she had to do was get on it. Susan B. Anthony called them the greatest thing for women's lib.
It's aimed at teachers but it's pretty informative: http://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=2346
Not aimed at teachers, not quite as informative: http://jodiwinterton.blogspot.com/20...e-me-baby.html

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I read somewhere or other that the one thing that truly powered women's lib was the bike. Unlike a horse or car, a bike did not require a man. Saddling and harnessing a horse just wasn't something a woman did easily. Cars were not reliable and needed cranked.. and women did not drive them. Not to mention the costs of a horse or car.

But a bike.. all she had to do was get on it. Susan B. Anthony called them the greatest thing for women's lib.
Annie Oakley loved her bike.

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Annie Oakley loved her bike.

So.. does that count as a track stand?
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So.. does that count as a track stand?
No one's going to argue with Annie Oakley while she's armed. If she says it's a track stand, it's a track stand.
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No one's going to argue with Annie Oakley while she's armed. If she says it's a track stand, it's a track stand.
Agreed.
I'd say no one is going to argue with her unarmed too.. eventually she will be armed again.
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Agreed.
I'd say no one is going to argue with her unarmed too.. eventually she will be armed again.
She had lawyers, guns and money. A formidable opponent if you got her mad. William Randolph Hearst found that out, much to his chagrin.

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