No, You May Not Walk (to the Superbowl)
#76
Sophomoric Member
#77
Senior Member
#78
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Seville, Spain
Posts: 4,403
Bikes: Brompton M6R, mountain bikes, Circe Omnis+ tandem
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 146 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
The only way I can imagine they could guarantee such as thing would be to pay off some of the players. If that's what you're implying, why don't you just come out and say it?
#79
Senior Member
Tell me in February if my prediction is right.
#80
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
What is your prediction anyway? How can we can tell if you are right or wrong?
#81
Bourbon junkie
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 722
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#83
Disco Infiltrator
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Folsom CA
Posts: 13,446
Bikes: Stormchaser, Paramount, Tilt, Samba tandem
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3126 Post(s)
Liked 2,103 Times
in
1,367 Posts
They could turn off the lights to try to throw off the team with the momentum
#84
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
"Close" is subjective and is so vague as to be meaningless in this context.
The only close that counts is closeness to the point spread or totals. A 13 point lead by a team favored by 14 is real close. If it wins by that "wide" margin, it lost in a close one for its betting supporters.
But I suppose that someone who doesn't give a dang about the game might be unaware that more than a few people have a betting interest in the game.
The only close that counts is closeness to the point spread or totals. A 13 point lead by a team favored by 14 is real close. If it wins by that "wide" margin, it lost in a close one for its betting supporters.
But I suppose that someone who doesn't give a dang about the game might be unaware that more than a few people have a betting interest in the game.
#85
Disco Infiltrator
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Folsom CA
Posts: 13,446
Bikes: Stormchaser, Paramount, Tilt, Samba tandem
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3126 Post(s)
Liked 2,103 Times
in
1,367 Posts
#86
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
#87
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 1,597
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
"Close" is subjective and is so vague as to be meaningless in this context.
The only close that counts is closeness to the point spread or totals. A 13 point lead by a team favored by 14 is real close. If it wins by that "wide" margin, it lost in a close one for its betting supporters.
But I suppose that someone who doesn't give a dang about the game might be unaware that more than a few people have a betting interest in the game.
The only close that counts is closeness to the point spread or totals. A 13 point lead by a team favored by 14 is real close. If it wins by that "wide" margin, it lost in a close one for its betting supporters.
But I suppose that someone who doesn't give a dang about the game might be unaware that more than a few people have a betting interest in the game.
#88
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times
in
8 Posts
I addition, a 14 point lead is a two score game, and hardly considered close to most gamblers, hell, a 10 point game is outside the realm I would consider close. That said, this got me a little curious, so I looked up the winning margin of all superbowls, and the average winning margin is 14.1 points, aka not a close game. However, if you graph the winning margins, the trend is towards a decreasing winning margin, slope of line being y = -0.1589x+17.92, so the overall winning margin is getting slimmer, so prepare for a nail-biter come the 113th superbowl, with a predicted 0-0 tie. Lowest possible winning margin with actual scoring? Thats the 100th superbowl, with some poor qb getting dropped in the endzone during a defensive standoff. 2-0.
#89
Sophomoric Member
Only a game that was already close could be nullified by one call of a dishonest official. So what would be the point?
__________________
"Think Outside the Cage"
#90
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
#91
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
#92
Banned
#93
Sophomoric Member
Originally Posted by nytimes.com
I asked whether she knew anyone who had walked to the stadium.
“New Jersey people don’t like to walk from the curb to a restaurant,” Ms. Scala said.
“For people from New York, it’s not that far,” she said, adding, “It’s not cold, as long as you make it before the sun goes down."
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/29/ny...e-stadium.html
“New Jersey people don’t like to walk from the curb to a restaurant,” Ms. Scala said.
“For people from New York, it’s not that far,” she said, adding, “It’s not cold, as long as you make it before the sun goes down."
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/29/ny...e-stadium.html
__________________
"Think Outside the Cage"
#94
Sophomoric Member
The invention of jaywalking
Here's some more information on the concerted efforts to ban pedestrians from the "public" streets by imposing fines for jaywalking:
"...One key turning point, according to Norton, came in 1923 in Cincinnati. Citizens’ anger over pedestrian deaths gave rise to a referendum drive. It gathered some 7,000 signatures in support of a rule that would have required all vehicles in the city to be fitted with speed governors limiting them to 25 miles per hour.
Local auto clubs and dealers recognized that cars would be a lot harder to sell if there was a cap on their speed. So they went into overdrive in their campaign against the initiative. They sent letters to every individual with a car in the city, saying that the rule would condemn the U.S. to the fate of China, which they painted as the world’s most backward nation. They even hired pretty women to invite men to head to the polls and vote against the rule. And the measure failed.
They also got Detroit involved. The automakers banded together to help fight the Cincinnati rule, according to Norton. “And they remained organized after that,” he says.
The industry lobbied to change the law, promoting the adoption of traffic statutes to supplant common law. The statutes were designed to restrict pedestrian use of the street and give primacy to cars. The idea of "jaywalking” – a concept that had not really existed prior to 1920 – was enshrined in law.
The current configuration of the American street, and the rules that govern it, are not the result of some inevitable organic process. "It’s more like a brawl," says Norton. "Where the strongest brawler wins"...
By Sarah Goodyear, from https://www.theatlanticcities.com/com...ywalking/1837/
Local auto clubs and dealers recognized that cars would be a lot harder to sell if there was a cap on their speed. So they went into overdrive in their campaign against the initiative. They sent letters to every individual with a car in the city, saying that the rule would condemn the U.S. to the fate of China, which they painted as the world’s most backward nation. They even hired pretty women to invite men to head to the polls and vote against the rule. And the measure failed.
They also got Detroit involved. The automakers banded together to help fight the Cincinnati rule, according to Norton. “And they remained organized after that,” he says.
The industry lobbied to change the law, promoting the adoption of traffic statutes to supplant common law. The statutes were designed to restrict pedestrian use of the street and give primacy to cars. The idea of "jaywalking” – a concept that had not really existed prior to 1920 – was enshrined in law.
The current configuration of the American street, and the rules that govern it, are not the result of some inevitable organic process. "It’s more like a brawl," says Norton. "Where the strongest brawler wins"...
__________________
"Think Outside the Cage"
#95
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 7,143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 261 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times
in
10 Posts
I stated in my prior response that the only way to bike to MetLife stadium was through Patterson Plank Road. Really folks, why would you drive or take the train to Rutherford New Jersey, then walk down Patterson Plank Road to the Stadium. It's not a short walk and there are no sidewalks so you will be walking on mud and grass. Then you have the entrance that goes into the stadium where you better RUN fast because there's no mud or grass to save you!
#96
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 7,143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 261 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times
in
10 Posts
#97
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
I believe the stadiums were also being rated for having amenities and services nearby that any fans might want to walk to or from such as hotels, bars, nightlife and eating establishments. The Lincoln Field in Philadelphia is only an easy 5 minute walk from the subway stop but has almost no nearby services and was ranked near the bottom for walkability.
#98
Uninformed Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Union County, NJ
Posts: 1,117
Bikes: Dolan Pre Cursa, Cannondale R400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#99
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times
in
1,043 Posts
#100
Sophomoric Member
When the Super Bowl was held in Detroit, many--maybe most--ticket holders walked from their hotels to Ford Field. Or took the People Mover from more remote downtown locations. Even Americans will often choose to walk when the route is safe, direct, and reasonably pleasant.
__________________
"Think Outside the Cage"