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Old 12-23-13, 06:42 PM   #1
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Alternative Bicycles for Traveling in Harsh Weather

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Here where I live there is rain, snow, cold air and winds. I do fine commuting with my electric tandem bicycle and a large jacket. However, if I want to go somewhere with my girl friend, she insists that we do it on better weather occasions. Can you guys think of any good alternative bicycles that can solve these type of problems?

I was thinking something similar to this:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/15..._bike_for.html

It should be able to have lots of room for batteries as well. Not so sure about visibility, and if it has 3 wheels then it might as well have weather protection for the driver as well.
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Hmm, did you mean to post this in the Electric Bikes forum instead of here in the Living Car Free forum?
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There are two person velomobiles, but they are very rare.

This is the Duo Quest.



Though this Twike may be closer to what you are thinking of.

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My motorcycle riding suit kept me warm and dry. It cost $695 six years ago. Buying one for your girlfriend would be a real commitment. When the front zipper broke on it I switched to a lighter nylon jacket and sprayed it with a waterproofing chemical. I still use the pants that came with the suit. My down filled Gortex mittens are several years old. They do well down to about 30 degrees. Below 20 degrees I really prefer to add chemical heater packets to them.

Maybe you could buy a ski suit for her. They cost a lot but are lighter than a motorcycle riding suit. She would definitely stay warm especially if she pedals hard.
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My motorcycle riding suit kept me warm and dry. It cost $695 six years ago. Buying one for your girlfriend would be a real commitment. When the front zipper broke on it I switched to a lighter nylon jacket and sprayed it with a waterproofing chemical. I still use the pants that came with the suit. My down filled Gortex mittens are several years old. They do well down to about 30 degrees. Below 20 degrees I really prefer to add chemical heater packets to them.

Maybe you could buy a ski suit for her. They cost a lot but are lighter than a motorcycle riding suit. She would definitely stay warm especially if she pedals hard.
Did you ever ask a tailor about mending the zipper in motorcycle suit?

I like your ideas about looking to other activities to find clothing for transportation style bicycling. You mentioned ski and motorcycle clothing. I would add that hunting and hiking gear are good for utility cycling. Construction workers and police officers also wear durable clothing that keeps them warm and active.

I don't care much for the bicycling specific clothing for everyday cycling. I think they go for streamlining but sacrifice warmth and durability. The bike stuff is also often overpriced, IMO, and looks silly when you go into a store, workplace, office, or church. I'm not saying it's all terrible--just keep an open mind like Smallwheels does.
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Did you ever ask a tailor about mending the zipper in motorcycle suit?
A tailor said it could be done for $40, which is really cheap considering the fat zipper replacement costs $25. I still own the jacket in case I ever start riding motorcycles or scooters again. I use it now for working on my bicycle in the cold weather. That lets me keep my other jacket clean. Also the motorcycle jacket weighs a couple of pounds more than the other one. The lighter jacket isn't quite as warm as the motorcycle jacket but the lighter weight makes it better.
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I know all about how construction workers dress.... Too warm for cycling I have a full set of Wall's insulated outerwear. I have to teach outside hands on safety courses in NY in February. Last year it snowed every day and the average high was 18*F plus wind chills! Pretty damned cold for this southern boy. I wore thermals, work pants, insulated bib overalls, silk socks, wool socks and insulated boots. On my top part I had thermals, wool shirt, wool sweater vest, hoodie, heavy hooded jacket and a wool scarf. Wore a heavy hard hat liner and hard hat on my head. I did have to unzip the jacket a couple of times for temperature control, believe I may have taken it off a couple of times. What sucks is when you leave the outside and go inside for a couple of hours, looks like a Chinese laundry exploded.

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What do you mean by Chinese laundry exploded?

I'm looking for solutions that involves less about dressing up for bicycling. Like when u use a car, you don't need any special clothes.
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I'm looking for solutions that involves less about dressing up for bicycling. Like when u use a car, you don't need any special clothes.
Here's the interior of the Twike. Sealed from the elements. But I imagine that you still provide your own heat.

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Here's the interior of the Twike. Sealed from the elements. But I imagine that you still provide your own heat.
Is this the same vehicle we had a thread about, a few months ago? There was a good promotional video embedded in that thread that the OP should check out. I remember the guy parking his enclosed recumbent trike in a garage, but I don't remember if it was a Twike or something else.
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What do you mean by Chinese laundry exploded?

I'm looking for solutions that involves less about dressing up for bicycling. Like when u use a car, you don't need any special clothes.
When you go inside from being outdoors in multiple layers of clothes you have to shed the layers, they usually end up in a large pile near the door so you can put them back on when you have to go outside again. The term comes from looking in the back room of a real Chinese Laundry in a large city, they always looked like a complete disaster area, clothes all over the place. But everything always came out clean and neat.

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When you go inside from being outdoors in multiple layers of clothes you have to shed the layers, they usually end up in a large pile near the door so you can put them back on when you have to go outside again. The term comes from looking in the back room of a real Chinese Laundry in a large city, they always looked like a complete disaster area, clothes all over the place. But everything always came out clean and neat.

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A tandem velomobile would be faster ..
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A tandem velomobile would be faster ..
Make and model?
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Just The fact, physics of air resistance, that the frontal area is no bigger than a single .. but 2 peddlers .

Make one in your shop.
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Just The fact, physics of air resistance, that the frontal area is no bigger than a single .. but 2 peddlers .

Make one in your shop.
I understand the benefits. I didn't find any that were built for winter weather.

That's a pretty intimidating project. My shop is my dining room, so I don't think I'll be doing any welding, angle grinding or fiberglassing.
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Those quests do seem really nice. Would be nicer if they came in tandem and also with a hard canopy of some sort to keep the heat in.

I guess no one makes anything like that?
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Though you could chat better with the Side by side dual seat one. just a bigger hole to make in the headwind.

maybe the coal you get in your stocking ,today will, burning, heat it inside ..

maybe the Delta one you chain up the back wheels and replace the front one with a Ski.

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I understand the benefits. I didn't find any that were built for winter weather.

That's a pretty intimidating project. My shop is my dining room, so I don't think I'll be doing any welding, angle grinding or fiberglassing.
Not unless you overcook the steaks.
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There are still some in the larger cities. There is one that I use in Boston, it is right on the line between Jamaica Plain and Mission Hill.

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I used to take my shirts to one in San Diego. They did a fine job.
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Though you could chat better with the Side by side dual seat one. just a bigger hole to make in the headwind.
And argueably more stable in snow and ice.
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