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Old 01-02-14, 02:45 AM   #1
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How many car free riders live in an RV?

I really want another one and if paid for it is a simpler lifestyle.
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Old 01-02-14, 10:08 AM   #2
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I really want another one and if paid for it is a simpler lifestyle.
I think about doing this, but I do need a LAN line to do my job, so I wouldn't be driving around in it. I like the idea of a portable home. I would want a really nice big one. After I saved up for the RV. I would save up money to buy a piece of land to park it one. And eventually I would be able to build on the land. That's how I imagine it in my head, I don't know if I will ever do it.
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How can you be car free if you live in a car?
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How can you be car free if you live in a car?
By defining "car free" any way you want. On this list, the term "car free" status can include all sorts of meanings, assumptions, and political agenda by various LCF posters.
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Oh. I thought it was some kind of zen mind game.
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I'm interested in micro-homes. I would be interested in a similarly sized apartment, if it weren't for municipal minimum square footage requirements.

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How can you be car free if you live in a car?
Lots of people live in an RV as if it were a trailer. Even if you move it once or twice a year to a new area, you're still living a car free lifestyle on a day to day basis. Stating that an RV is a car is a bit reductive.
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Stating that an RV is a car is a bit reductive.
Pretending that an RV is not a car is a bit deceptive.
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Pretending that an RV is not a car is a bit deceptive.
I disagree. You would never confuse a car and an RV. If you were to buy an RV, you would never refer to it as a car. If you bought a car, you'd never refer to it as an RV. They're both motor vehicles, sure. But to think that you're going to use an RV like any typical person would use a car is silly.

An RV is not a car.
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I disagree. You would never confuse a car and an RV. If you were to buy an RV, you would never refer to it as a car. If you bought a car, you'd never refer to it as an RV. They're both motor vehicles, sure. But to think that you're going to use an RV like any typical person would use a car is silly.

An RV is not a car.
If you say so. It sure looks like a car to me.
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An RV is not a car, it can be used as a car but is mostly used as a place to live temporarily... And if it's used as a living place for more/longer than holidays, maybe moving it once a month or less in a year, it's a home... JMO.
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On LCF, we have stipulated a working definition of car. A car is a privately owned motor vehicle used for the personal transport of individuals. Under this definition, taxis, ambulances, and commercial automobiles are not cars. An RV is a car if it's being used to transport individuals involved in a non-commercial endeavor. When it's sitting more or less permanently in a camping spot, it's not a car. It's a shelter.

If you don't know what "working definition" means, look it up. Ditto with "stipulate". The purpose of a working definition is to avoid silly time-wasting arguments like the one currently proceeding. Let's get back on topic, if anybody knows what the topic is.
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On LCF, we have stipulated a working definition of car.
I see. Is there a post we can read that provides all of the stipulated working definitions for this sub forum? Or perhaps an automated tool that will translate into the language used on other sub forums?
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I see. Is there a post we can read that provides all of the stipulated working definitions for this sub forum? Or perhaps an automated tool that will translate into the language used on other sub forums?
Yes there are a number of threads on this issue. It should be sticky-ed.

If this issue of definitions interests you, please start a new thread on the topic, and allow this thread to return to the subject of living in an RV. If you don't know how to start a thread, PM me and I will be happy to explain it.
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Two in the front seat, two in the back seat, and one in the trunk?
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An RV is a car if it's being used to transport individuals involved in a non-commercial endeavor. When it's sitting more or less permanently in a camping spot, it's not a car. It's a shelter.
An RV with a flat tire is a shelter?

Personally whether it is a car or something else... I won't be living in one any time soon.
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Most RV's aren't really that great. Cheap pressed board laminate stuff everywhere. There are some custom jobs that are incredible, though.


This is an unbelievably long step by step, but if you scroll allll the way down, I like the end product.
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I like the concept but it's almost as expensive as a studio apartment. Even if the RV is parked, you have to factor in repairs, insurance, fuel etc. Having said that, you can save alot of money by boondocking, living off the grid in some location during the summer where you don't have to move the vehicle or pay to "hook up" on someeones land.
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I think about doing this, but I do need a LAN line to do my job, so I wouldn't be driving around in it. I like the idea of a portable home. ......
A LAN line is a Local Area Network... or a group of computers and/or servers sharing a common IP address by means or routers and or switches.

A Land line is a immobile wire [generally a phone] connected to Earth based structures.

I can't see where there would be any problems setting up a network within a building or room.... even if the structure was wheeled or even moving. So.... I would guess you mean land line. But I can't think of any reason why anyone would require a hardwired 8 bit phone line. And a very limited number of reasons why anyone would require hardwired broadband connection opposed to wireless broadband.... as offsite servers would/could be desirable anyway.

If the mobile lifestyle is appealing to you... you might want to investigate the available technological solutions.
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A LAN line is a Local Area Network... or a group of computers and/or servers sharing a common IP address by means or routers and or switches.

A Land line is a immobile wire [generally a phone] connected to Earth based structures.

I can't see where there would be any problems setting up a network within a building or room.... even if the structure was wheeled or even moving. So.... I would guess you mean land line. But I can't think of any reason why anyone would require a hardwired 8 bit phone line. And a very limited number of reasons why anyone would require hardwired broadband connection opposed to wireless broadband.... as offsite servers would/could be desirable anyway.

If the mobile lifestyle is appealing to you... you might want to investigate the available technological solutions.
Oops, I meant a land line, a phone line. I have to have that for my job. Wireless for my computer is fine.
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Oops, I meant a land line, a phone line. I have to have that for my job. Wireless for my computer is fine.
Interesting. And more confusing. The new digital cellular lines are every bit as secure and dependable as are the old twisted pairs still in use for landline phones. You can even have an old established land line number moved to cellular.... OR transfer office/work numbers to ring on a cell number when away from the phone.

I've often though of a boat based retirement residence.......... almost EVERYTHING can be done with mobility now.
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Interesting. And more confusing. The new digital cellular lines are every bit as secure and dependable as are the old twisted pairs still in use for landline phones. You can even have an old established land line number moved to cellular.... OR transfer office/work numbers to ring on a cell number when away from the phone.

I've often though of a boat based retirement residence.......... almost EVERYTHING can be done with mobility now.
Her employer might not be that up to date. Also, in my experience wireless has more outages than a direct connection from computer to land line.
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Interesting. And more confusing. The new digital cellular lines are every bit as secure and dependable as are the old twisted pairs still in use for landline phones. You can even have an old established land line number moved to cellular.... OR transfer office/work numbers to ring on a cell number when away from the phone.

I've often though of a boat based retirement residence.......... almost EVERYTHING can be done with mobility now.
Really? https://www.privacyrights.org/wirele...d-data-privacy

Not that a land line can't be tapped. But even the NSA needs a court order for that. Or at least that is the law. Not so with cell and internet as we have discovered. Hams listen in to Cell phone calls all the time. Remember the Chuck and Dianna fiasco in England?
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Really? https://www.privacyrights.org/wirele...d-data-privacy

Not that a land line can't be tapped. But even the NSA needs a court order for that. Or at least that is the law. Not so with cell and internet as we have discovered. Hams listen in to Cell phone calls all the time. Remember the Chuck and Dianna fiasco in England?
Yeah, if the NSA listens to my calls they will be bored.
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Pretending that an RV is not a car is a bit deceptive.
How about an "RV" without an engine... ie; travel trailer?

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