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Old 03-02-14, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Whenever I hear stories of the recently unemployed, it seems there is a certain disbelief to them. Like they expect to be able to maintain the same kind of lifestyle they were living beforehand, without taking immediate drastic action to downsize their lifestyle to fit their new reality.

There's talk of having enough cash stashed for 3 months of unemployment, like during that three months, certainly by the end of it, they'll be employed again at a job making what they were, and can maintain their accustomed lifestyle with just a blip in their employment history and a relieved "*whew*" at the end of it.

How often does that happen?

Versus getting to the end of whatever emergency savings, general savings, and even retirement savings and finding out that there is no job at the end of the rainbow making what one was before sudden unemployment. Or having to be "underemployed," with a slower, but still sure, depletion of savings until a lifestyle is not manageable.

If that job of similar salary level does not materialize, there's bankruptcy and foreclosure to face.

Better to chuck it all and downsize? Or hope for the best and drain your assets?
You've framed the problem well. At the beginning of unemployment, it natural to assume that this will blow over quickly. But as the months wind on, you go though all the phases, even through deep depression and beyond to where you start looking again. If you are wise, you have saved while things were going good, and tightened the belt so that even while you get unemployment, you save a little. But there is no guarantee that you won't reach a point where all your assets run out. Then the choices get real harsh.

https://priceonomics.com/what-its-like-to-fail/
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Originally Posted by Walter S
It's not just the buses that require big roads. Big cargo trucks require that too. My point is simply that the trade-offs involved in road design, and the requirements that the road must meet, don't just include cars and buses. If a road is big enough for a large truck, it's big enough for any bus too.

So if you accept that roads must accommodate large trucks, then the cost of having the road also accommodate buses is pretty minimal.
Sure, the road can physically accommodate a bus. That doesn't mean that any particular bus route will be financially viable.
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Originally Posted by Walter S
You're probably right. But you should not be. People are such f&c*ing wimps! If the bus system is well run (my Atlanta/Marta seems OK) then I can hardly see what's so "unpleasant" about it. And in your car you're unlikely to strike up an interesting conversation with a stranger, which makes the trip so much faster seeming and "pleasant".
This is great in theory but when the "interesting conversation with a stranger" involves hoping you're not physically sick because the person pressed close against you in the crowd smells like they've been wearing the same clothes for a month and haven't washed in that time (really not fun in July - don't ask how I know this) it's far less appealing. When the "interesting conversation" occurs because you've got a bunch of unruly teenagers kicking the seats and the driver has no inclination to do anything about it, when you've got a stranger persistently hitting on a lone female who clearly isn't interested, I think a disinclination to repeat the experience needs to be addressed in a more useful way than calling people "f&c*ing wimps".
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Originally Posted by Roody
And yet the EU has resolved that all European cities will be carfree by 2050. A number of cities, like Hamburg and Nancy, are on track to be carfree much sooner--as you yourself posted a few days ago. So thinking about what a "bus road" will look like is a realistic concern to many city planners and traffic engineers.
Within cities it's far more achievable. In the UK it seems more and more park-n-ride schemes are appearing, where you drive to the outskirts of the city and park, then ride a bus into town. It's frequent enough that the wait for the bus is bearable, not least because it means you can park in a wide open space rather than circling the one-way system looking for the last space that isn't there. You also have the economies of scale, with lots of people on the bus it works financially.

Routes from remote areas to cities lose some of those economies of scale simply because not so many people will be on the bus. Routes from remote areas to other remote areas are unlikely to be financially viable at all.
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