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    Going car free? One piece of advice...

    Ok... the name of this game is "One piece of advice".

    You have a friend, colleague, relative who is about to ditch an automobile and replace it with a bicycle.

    There are probably dozens of things you'd like to say to her.

    But what would be the most essential, but often overlooked advice you could give.

    Come on, tell us.

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    Plan ahead. Move to a location where most of your needed services are within a mile and you are no more than 5-10 miles away from your work.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    Try it first.

    Park the vehicle and cycle, walk, or take the bus to everywhere you need to go ... the gym, the library, the doctor's office, work, school, church, the grocery store, etc. etc. ... for a few weeks or months. And then make a decision about what you want to do.

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    Tell your family and friends what you plan to do and maybe someone will offer their vehicle for those occasions when something large has to be picked up. Some times I will fill someone's fuel tank for the use of their car to go out of town, further then what is practical on a bicycle with time restraints. Weather can be a factor so get familiar with the bus schedule and put your local cab company's phone number on the refrigerator. Ask your insurance provider if they have rates on car rentals.
    No offence Machka but some times it is easier to jump in with both feet rather then getting wet slowly that way you eliminate temptation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Plan ahead. Move to a location where most of your needed services are within a mile and you are no more than 5-10 miles away from your work.
    +1

    Being car free is so easy if you're in a geographic position for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    Plan ahead. Move to a location where most of your needed services are within a mile and you are no more than 5-10 miles away from your work.
    Maybe for some people. Me, I'm car free and work is 20 miles one way. I like it that way. Keeps me strong and in reasonably good shape for touring without "training". If work were only 5 miles it would be different. I would have to "exercise". I prefer a lifestyle where fitness is built-in.

    I don't know how common that is though. Just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    Maybe for some people. Me, I'm car free and work is 20 miles one way. I like it that way. Keeps me strong and in reasonably good shape for touring without "training". If work were only 5 miles it would be different. I would have to "exercise". I prefer a lifestyle where fitness is built-in.

    I don't know how common that is though. Just me?
    No, I see your point. I recently moved super close to work, and I really don't care for it. I would rather be close to the stores and in a pretty neighborhood where I will enjoy an after dinner walk.

    The commute is part of the daily routine, and it'll get done no matter what. Although personally, I don't want to commute more than 30 minutes one way. That's one hour of exercise most days of the week, plus additional from errands and recreational activities.


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    Do not drop off of curbs if you're carrying thin glass bottles or eggs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    Ok... the name of this game is "One piece of advice".

    You have a friend, colleague, relative who is about to ditch an automobile and replace it with a bicycle.

    There are probably dozens of things you'd like to say to her.

    But what would be the most essential, but often overlooked advice you could give.

    Come on, tell us.
    I actually have two:

    1.) Be willing to change the way you look at distance and time.
    2.) Get the bike and equipment you need to be comfortable. Here in Seattle, I never leave home without full rain gear, even if it's not raining at the time, and would never even consider a daily-use bike without fenders. If I lived in the mountains, I'd probably seriously consider at least one bike with studded snow tires.
    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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    Choose a location which has a good public transit, just in case something happens and you can't ride a bike on some days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Although personally, I don't want to commute more than 30 minutes one way. That's one hour of exercise most days of the week, plus additional from errands and recreational activities.
    I'd agree with this. If you are going day after day, year after year, a long commute has got to be hard to maintain. My current commute can be as short as 4.5 miles if the weather is cold or it's raining.

    But if it's nice out, I can stretch it out to 7 or 8 miles...

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    My one piece of advice would be to get a Plan B. You get all kinds of good bicycle suggestions here on BF, but I rarely see anyone suggesting a multi modal approach to transportation.

    Truth is though, if you aren't the most "gung ho" rider or even if you develop an injury, a second mode is essential. For me, it's the bus. I'm situated on a good bus route and I frequently use it... especially in winter.

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    Do you still have a driver's license? Or have you never needed one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcrxjlb View Post
    Do you still have a driver's license? Or have you never needed one?
    I have a driver's license. They are great if you rent a car.

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    Driver's Licences are also useful for identification. I hardly ever drive, but I do use my driver's licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    I'd agree with this. If you are going day after day, year after year, a long commute has got to be hard to maintain. My current commute can be as short as 4.5 miles if the weather is cold or it's raining.

    But if it's nice out, I can stretch it out to 7 or 8 miles...
    Makes me feel "tough" I guess. My ride is 20 miles. But I agree with posts on mass transit! I take advantage of that option 15 or 20 days/year. On those few days it really makes a big difference. Having *some* alternative to the bicycle is good when you feel the need. You need to anticipate bad sinus infections or similar even if that happens very rarely.

    If you have no mass transit, other options are a friend or family member that might give you a ride sometimes.

    I also have shopping and restaurants within about a mile of my home. That's very nice. Work is 20 miles but if everything were, that would be real hard to stick with day in day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    My one piece of advice would be to get a Plan B. You get all kinds of good bicycle suggestions here on BF, but I rarely see anyone suggesting a multi modal approach to transportation.

    Truth is though, if you aren't the most "gung ho" rider or even if you develop an injury, a second mode is essential. For me, it's the bus. I'm situated on a good bus route and I frequently use it... especially in winter.
    I'm car-lite, not entirely car-free but I think this is a great tip. It's 15 miles to my office and I ride it most days. However, a local bus stop is only 4 miles away, it's about 5 to a park and ride with an express into town. Having the options during stormy weather or extreme heat/cold is very beneficial.
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    Get used to the idea early that friends and family are going to look at you weird and say some things about you. Some will be impressed, but others will somehow think that it's an attack on their own inactive lifestyles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    If you have no mass transit, other options are a friend or family member that might give you a ride sometimes.
    Also car rental or car share, U-haul (for moving large items), taxi, on-demand buses, walking.....

    So my piece of advice is:

    Whatever you plan to use as your main transportation, you should also have a Plan B and if possible a Plan C.

    This should go for car owners also--many times I've known co-workers to not make it to their shift "because my car broke down and I don't have any other way to get there." As a carfree person you will be judged more harshly, so be especially certain that you have good backup plans.

    BTW, I used to have a manager who would drive herself to pick up employees who had a transportation issue. So maybe some people can add "transport by the boss" as a Plan B.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
    Maybe for some people. Me, I'm car free and work is 20 miles one way. I like it that way. Keeps me strong and in reasonably good shape for touring without "training". If work were only 5 miles it would be different. I would have to "exercise". I prefer a lifestyle where fitness is built-in.

    I don't know how common that is though. Just me?
    For me it's an issue of time, not physical condition. When I had a 17 mile commute, I begrudged how much time the commute took and what else I could be doing with my life. I like to keep the commute under an hour and to 30 minutes if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
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    At a job interview, don't bring up bikes unless the person interviewing you does. If asked if you have reliable transportation, say yes.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    For me it's an issue of time, not physical condition. When I had a 17 mile commute, I begrudged how much time the commute took and what else I could be doing with my life. I like to keep the commute under an hour and to 30 minutes if possible.
    Well that opens up a good topic of its own. Time management and making the most of it. For years, I drove a car to work. The commute took close to an hour on average. A really good day was 45 minutes. But it varied a lot. It might frequently be 1.5 hours. In order to get the exercise I wanted I would ride 25 miles to and around Stone Mountain before work. That took at least 1.5 hours.


    So my total time invested in commute/fitness on weekdays was 1.5 hours (bicycle) + 2 hours (to/from) drive = 3.5 hours. Now, I don't drive. I ride under 3 hours (1:15-25 each way) on the bicycle. So I'm typically riding 3 hours instead of (bike+car) 3.5. But in that (less than) 3 hours, I cover 40 miles on my bicycle instead of 25 + X car miles.


    40 is a lot more than 25. It's on a different scale.


    But the most important thing is my attitude. My bicycle commute varies only by a few minutes at most. My car commute might vary by a factor of two or sometimes three. And on the bicycle I walk into the office happy and invigorated and ready to tackle the world. Driving to work I might get there and feel beat like a wet puppy.


    By commuting on my bicycle instead of in the car, I cover 40 miles on my bicycle instead of only 25. And I do it in 3 hours instead of 3.5!

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    + 1 very sage advice from Machka, going carefree may sound a whole lot better than the experience itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerv View Post
    But what would be the most essential, but often overlooked advice you could give.
    Don't let fear stop you, whether it is the fear of a major lifestyle change or the fear of what may or may not happen to you on the roads.
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