Costco or Car-Free
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Those businesses that have a online sales portal will survive since shopping is going back to "bring it to me" sales just like our parents & grandparents use.
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Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
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Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
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Not just Costco, any wholesale club (BJ's, Sam's Club) is affected by the growing number of people going car-free. The average car free person doesn't want to lug around a 2 year supply of paper towels and mustard. Plus if you are car free, you most likely live minimalistic lifestyle anyway, so why would you want a closet full of paper products and condiments?
There's no Costco in the northeast to my knowledge, but I used to own a small business so I had a membership with Sam's Club and BJ's for years. Towards the end of my business ownership, I actually refused to continue my membership with these clubs since I was finding the same product (snack foods, beverages, paper and cleaning products) cheaper at Walmart (+ no membership fees).
There's no Costco in the northeast to my knowledge, but I used to own a small business so I had a membership with Sam's Club and BJ's for years. Towards the end of my business ownership, I actually refused to continue my membership with these clubs since I was finding the same product (snack foods, beverages, paper and cleaning products) cheaper at Walmart (+ no membership fees).
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I think that if I gave up my car I would find fewer trips to the store and stocking up on bulk items a few times a year would be the way to go. Rent a pickup, fill it with bulk items, bring them home, and return pickup. I don't know if renting a truck for that purpose still qualifies a person as "car free" though.
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they lost me by expanding into a bigger store they built, another 6 miles away ..
so the Kroger/Meyer store is expanding , and other shops moved into their old store
opposite sides of the same parking lot.
no wally world, but they are threatening to build one , near the new Costco site.
so the Kroger/Meyer store is expanding , and other shops moved into their old store
opposite sides of the same parking lot.
no wally world, but they are threatening to build one , near the new Costco site.
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I think that if I gave up my car I would find fewer trips to the store and stocking up on bulk items a few times a year would be the way to go. Rent a pickup, fill it with bulk items, bring them home, and return pickup. I don't know if renting a truck for that purpose still qualifies a person as "car free" though.
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If the cargo bike trend continues, I wonder if it would be worthwhile for stores like Costco to capitalize on that and woo the millenials that way? Maybe do things like have special cargo bike parking in the same way that certain businesses seem to be incorporating bike racks into the site plan for new stores? It would be an interesting concept to try anyway...
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"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
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"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
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Anyway, my comment above was simple, offhanded musing about a way that a business could try to reach a younger, non-car-owning demographic - as part of a larger plan, of course. I do realize that the number of people who ride bikes at all, let alone have cargo bikes, are negligably small in the grand scheme of things, but we are posting here on Bike Forums, after all...
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Interesting, but I doubt that Millennials' (lack of) driving habits is the primary reason for their not shopping at Costco.
1. Contrary to the suggestion in the story, shopping at Costco and being car-free aren't mutually exclusive. Reducing expenses is a consideration for many people who prefer not to drive, and buying in bulk can be especially useful for car-free/light living: if you borrow, rent, or hire an automobile once in while to stock up on dry groceries and non-perishable items in bulk, all that remains be transported by bike on a regular basis are small quantities of perishable food and incidental needs.
2. Millennials are getting married and forming households later, so it's only natural that they're less interested in bulk purchasing.
3. While Costco is well known as a business success and lauded by older shoppers, it doesn't have any special cachet or do any marketing that would attract younger business.
1. Contrary to the suggestion in the story, shopping at Costco and being car-free aren't mutually exclusive. Reducing expenses is a consideration for many people who prefer not to drive, and buying in bulk can be especially useful for car-free/light living: if you borrow, rent, or hire an automobile once in while to stock up on dry groceries and non-perishable items in bulk, all that remains be transported by bike on a regular basis are small quantities of perishable food and incidental needs.
2. Millennials are getting married and forming households later, so it's only natural that they're less interested in bulk purchasing.
3. While Costco is well known as a business success and lauded by older shoppers, it doesn't have any special cachet or do any marketing that would attract younger business.
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It is easier for me to count the amount. None here, ever; and none when I spent a week in Philadelphia this past Fall.
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I wouldn't guess at a percentage, but there seem to be a lot of them around here, and I generally (jokingly) assume that almost anything that is popular here is darn near ubiquitous everywhere else. Perhaps we are actually ahead of the curve for once?
Anyway, my comment above was simple, offhanded musing about a way that a business could try to reach a younger, non-car-owning demographic - as part of a larger plan, of course. I do realize that the number of people who ride bikes at all, let alone have cargo bikes, are negligably small in the grand scheme of things, but we are posting here on Bike Forums, after all...
Anyway, my comment above was simple, offhanded musing about a way that a business could try to reach a younger, non-car-owning demographic - as part of a larger plan, of course. I do realize that the number of people who ride bikes at all, let alone have cargo bikes, are negligably small in the grand scheme of things, but we are posting here on Bike Forums, after all...
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Interesting, but I doubt that Millennials' (lack of) driving habits is the primary reason for their not shopping at Costco.
1. Contrary to the suggestion in the story, shopping at Costco and being car-free aren't mutually exclusive. Reducing expenses is a consideration for many people who prefer not to drive, and buying in bulk can be especially useful for car-free/light living: if you borrow, rent, or hire an automobile once in while to stock up on dry groceries and non-perishable items in bulk, all that remains be transported by bike on a regular basis are small quantities of perishable food and incidental needs.
1. Contrary to the suggestion in the story, shopping at Costco and being car-free aren't mutually exclusive. Reducing expenses is a consideration for many people who prefer not to drive, and buying in bulk can be especially useful for car-free/light living: if you borrow, rent, or hire an automobile once in while to stock up on dry groceries and non-perishable items in bulk, all that remains be transported by bike on a regular basis are small quantities of perishable food and incidental needs.
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I see a couple here most days. Mostly they're the longtail types. I only have seen one of the "Dutch" type of cargo bikes. But the cargo trailers seem to be more popular than the cargo bikes. And the kiddie trailers used for light hauling are ubiquitous.
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Not just Costco, any wholesale club (BJ's, Sam's Club) is affected by the growing number of people going car-free. The average car free person doesn't want to lug around a 2 year supply of paper towels and mustard. Plus if you are car free, you most likely live minimalistic lifestyle anyway, so why would you want a closet full of paper products and condiments?
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We don't have Costco, but for years I had a Sams Club membership while I was carfree. It wasn't any farther away than other supermarkets, and I liked the quality as well as the prices on selected items. The things I usually bought were peanut butter, coffee, fish oil, vitamins and OTC meds, shampoo, salmon, socks, and underwear. I also loved their snack bar. All that stuff was easily hauled on the bike.
A really great idea for carfree people is to team up with a family or individual who owns a car. I used to go with one family every couple months. I would pay for their purchases, then they paid me back after shopping. They didn't have to buy a membership, saving them $40, and I got a free ride to Sam's Club.
A really great idea for carfree people is to team up with a family or individual who owns a car. I used to go with one family every couple months. I would pay for their purchases, then they paid me back after shopping. They didn't have to buy a membership, saving them $40, and I got a free ride to Sam's Club.
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We've always liked shopping at Costco while in California visiting my father, so my wife and I were delighted when we learned that they'll be opening a new store here in Seville at the end of April. We've already become members.
I've ridden out to where it's being built a couple of times to figure out the best way to get there. It turns out it's only about five kms. from our house and I can go most of the way on either a protected bike path or on a lovely MUP that runs next to the Guadalquivir River. I don't have a cargo bike. Thought I'd just use panniers.
I've ridden out to where it's being built a couple of times to figure out the best way to get there. It turns out it's only about five kms. from our house and I can go most of the way on either a protected bike path or on a lovely MUP that runs next to the Guadalquivir River. I don't have a cargo bike. Thought I'd just use panniers.
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Plus you can pretty much make a meal out of the free samples!
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We've always liked shopping at Costco while in California visiting my father, so my wife and I were delighted when we learned that they'll be opening a new store here in Seville at the end of April. We've already become members.
I've ridden out to where it's being built a couple of times to figure out the best way to get there. It turns out it's only about five kms. from our house and I can go most of the way on either a protected bike path or on a lovely MUP that runs next to the Guadalquivir River. I don't have a cargo bike. Thought I'd just use panniers.
I've ridden out to where it's being built a couple of times to figure out the best way to get there. It turns out it's only about five kms. from our house and I can go most of the way on either a protected bike path or on a lovely MUP that runs next to the Guadalquivir River. I don't have a cargo bike. Thought I'd just use panniers.
for that matter, are your own tastes mostly American or Spanish?
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As to my tastes, if we're talking about food, I must say I have a weak spot for Spanish cuisine, but I'm open to trying things from abroad, and there are a few things I miss from the States.
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I haven't seen any cargo bikes in use yet.... but I've seen countless numbers of people using those tow-behind trailers. Generally the lesser expensive ones designed (and used) for small children. But many I've seen get a 2nd life as grocery haulers.
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It's going to be a very long time before we get a Costco in Walmartkansas.
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Several years ago, we decided we wanted a dehumidifier in our house (our rainy season lasts about seven months with overnight temperatures commonly around freezing) since we don't heat the house and didn't want moisture damage. Costco's return policy is unbeatable, so we bought a membership. Now we ride to Costco about once every other month and load up our two extremely large metal bike baskets. It's about five miles away on an unpleasant road to ride on, so we pick our time carefully.
If they want to attract more Millennials, a generation that happens to have a substantial number of car-free folks, they could do two things:
1. Site their stores better so that they aren't in areas that are lousy/dangerous to cycle to and that also have some bus service
2. Put some proper bike parking in. At the Eugene Costco, the lousy bike rack sits out in the rain while the bottle return in under the shelter.
If they want to attract more Millennials, a generation that happens to have a substantial number of car-free folks, they could do two things:
1. Site their stores better so that they aren't in areas that are lousy/dangerous to cycle to and that also have some bus service
2. Put some proper bike parking in. At the Eugene Costco, the lousy bike rack sits out in the rain while the bottle return in under the shelter.