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Old 07-13-14, 04:20 PM   #1
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Drinking and riding

For some reason, this is a side effect of bicycle culture here.

Lots of people are attracted to a recent phenomenon where bars are situated right off bike trails...

I run into younger people who claim they mainly ride to travel from event to event. Concerts, food events, Handlebar Happy Hour at pubs, etc. This usually means a lot of alcohol at every stop.

I even see bikes on Craiglist advertised as "bar hopping bikes"...

Is anyone else seeing this in their cities? What's your take on this?

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Old 07-13-14, 04:33 PM   #2
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Stopping off at one of the bars that line our bike lanes is something I enjoy.
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Old 07-13-14, 04:59 PM   #3
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For some reason, this is a side effect of bicycle culture here.
You think this is something new? Have you heard of RAGBRAI?

Nothing new for people to enjoy having a few drinks with friends or would-like-to-be friends. No take on it except that are sure to be some sanctimonious teetotalars or ultra safety nanny types who might have conniptions over it. I suppose they should wear a helmet in case they are forced to participate and might fall off the bar stool after having a beer.
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I've noticed bars located near bike paths but to be honest I've never seen bikes locked up by them so unless they park inside, I don't think there's much to pub crawling by bicycle around me.
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Old 07-13-14, 06:24 PM   #5
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I am not much of a drinker myself but I have nothing against people who want to have a beer and ride their bike... If I do decide to have a beer, I prefer to drink it after the ride and not before or during.
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You think this is something new? Have you heard of RAGBRAI?

Nothing new for people to enjoy having a few drinks with friends or would-like-to-be friends. No take on it except that are sure to be some sanctimonious teetotalars or ultra safety nanny types who might have conniptions over it. I suppose they should wear a helmet in case they are forced to participate and might fall off the bar stool after having a beer.
Lol, well I see some rare unanimity going on here. I admit to enjoying a beer or two at one of these bike trail establishments. It's very convenient for me. But occasionally we get trails just overwhelmed with party people.... but perhaps I am just an old foggy and I might have less to say about it if I were one of the party folks.
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Old 07-13-14, 07:14 PM   #7
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Is anyone else seeing this in their cities? What's your take on this?
You've heard of the CTC in the UK, right?
The national cycling charity | CTC

They have a wide variety of rides, but I've ridden with one particular club a couple times, and their rides are more or less a pub-crawl ... but a British-style pub-crawl.
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Old 07-13-14, 07:48 PM   #8
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In my city, it seems like all entertainment involves alcohol consumption. I wish the local folks would include bikes with their drinks. I'd much rather face a horde of drunk cyclists than one drunk motorist. It also seems to me that an intoxicated cyclist has a much better chance of not causing any harm due to the lower speed and momentum.

We do have a couple of bars along bike paths, but I have never seen a bike parked around them.
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It also seems to me that an intoxicated cyclist has a much better chance of not causing any harm due to the lower speed and momentum.
It all depends on what effect alcohol has on the personality of the person. Some people just can`t handle alcohol very well and start going crazy and acting like a bunch of beserkers after drinking and they can do a lot of harm and damage around them without even getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.
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I know a lot of people who will ride their bikes to the bar instead of driving. Although you can probably be ticketed and fined for riding your bike while intoxicated, I dont know if it carries the same consequences as a full blown DWI in a car. Except in extreme cases its definitely less likely they'll get a cops attention and they probably wont kill anyone. They have complained its harder to pick up girls when they dont have car with them.
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Old 07-13-14, 09:11 PM   #11
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I even see bikes on Craiglist advertised as "bar hopping bikes"...

Is anyone else seeing this in their cities? What's your take on this?
I live in New Orleans. EVERY mode of travel is a potential bar-hopper. 'Nuff Said.
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Old 07-14-14, 05:48 AM   #12
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Have a coworker who goes down to Pittsburgh often with his girl and rides on the trails along the rivers. I finally got down there to ride around the city on my vacation week. I rode 22 miles and rode along each side of each river and crossing over several bridges. It was really cool for this forest/mountain country boy to ride around the city.

I started at the beginning on the north side, crossed the Allegheny, rode around the point, crossed the Monongahela, rode up 8 miles or so along the Mon, crossed again, rode back to the point along the north shore of the Mon, rode around the point again, crossed the Allegheny and rode back to the beginning.

I asked where he rides when he goes down. "From this bar, to this bar, to this bar." I rode 22 miles in 2.5 hours. His bike rides are 6-7 hours and probably less than a mile pretty much just at Station Square.
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When I lived at my parents in the city, and went out to go to a bar with my friends, I always went by bike.

I noticed I had less trouble going back home uphill when I drunk alcohol than when I was sober.
Alcohol apparently does something good, you don't feel tired that fast.
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Just get one of these samsung smart bikes; it would be perfect for bar hopping:

Samsung?s Smart Bike concept is beautiful - SlashGear
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I noticed I had less trouble going back home uphill when I drunk alcohol than when I was sober.
Alcohol apparently does something good, you don't feel tired that fast.
Isn't that what the old school racers would dope with? Ethanol and amphetamines?
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Isn't that what the old school racers would dope with? Ethanol and amphetamines?
Amphetamines? Yes Alcoholic beverages? Yes.

Ethanol (a mix of alcohol and gasoline)? No.

Anything else that they thought back then would give 'em an edge? Yes.

Anything else that they think today would give 'em an edge and not show up on a drug test? Yes.
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Ethanol (a mix of alcohol and gasoline)? No.
Oh you!

Ethanol = C[SUB]2[/SUB]H[SUB]5[/SUB]OH, which is pure alcohol, and what's in alcoholic beverages. (Unless you completely screw up your moonshine.) And sometimes people also put it in cars. But only someone who was determined to be as obtuse as possible would infer that I was talking about E25+ motor vehicle fuel when referencing ethanol in terms of human consumption.
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Ethanol (a mix of alcohol and gasoline)? No.
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What? No.

Ethanol and gasoline are not the same thing. Gasoline is a mix of many things including ethanol.

Ethanol is ethanol.

In this context ethanol is referring to flavored ethanol-water solutions; e.g. beer, wine, liquor.
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Oh you!

Ethanol = C[SUB]2[/SUB]H****[SUB]5[/SUB]OH, which is pure alcohol, and what's in alcoholic beverages. (Unless you completely screw up your moonshine.) And sometimes people also put it in cars. But only someone who was determined to be as obtuse as possible would infer that I was talking about E25+ motor vehicle fuel when referencing ethanol in terms of human consumption.
Serendipitous shaming.

I like the song of the Kookaburra.
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Oh you!

Ethanol = C[SUB]2[/SUB]H[SUB]5[/SUB]OH, which is pure alcohol, and what's in alcoholic beverages. (Unless you completely screw up your moonshine.) And sometimes people also put it in cars. But only someone who was determined to be as obtuse as possible would infer that I was talking about E25+ motor vehicle fuel when referencing ethanol in terms of human consumption.
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Serendipitous shaming.

I like the song of the Kookaburra.
I stand corrected.

If it feels good calling someone obtuse for making a mistake, feel good.
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Many of my rides involve a pub stop at some point. We've got some brewpubs easily accessible from riding trails and it does make for a nice break!

Generally I'll limit myself to two pints when I'm riding though - any more than that and I find my legs seem to run out of gas on some of the hills I've got to climb.
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I'd much rather face a horde of drunk cyclists than one drunk motorist.
I agree that one drunk motorist can cause much more damage, but a horde of drunk cyclists can be nearly impossible to avoid since they are so random. In college, I only dared once to ride down the "party street" on a Saturday night. No vehicular traffic on that street, but with nearly 100% of the cyclists being well above the limit it was scary dangerous.
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I don't often notice bars, but I've never seen a bike rack at one.

If I make barhopping a lifestyle, I would start with a trike.
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There was supposed to be a bike rave in Vancouver a few weeks ago. Which I gather was a fun name for hipsters on a pub ride.
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With the wall mounted internet Juke box , I have a place to park My Brompton right under it ,

inside my favorite watering hole . .. barely a half mile , 10 blocks, from my house..


it's .. "a nice little Drinking town, with a Fishing Problem" .. now with 3 microbreweries ..


moved here after my touring trips in Bohemia Bavaria and Belgium,

Ireland England and Scotland all of whom know how to make a very nice Pint.

Carlsberg in Denmark, Heineken in NL , Some kind of Piwo in Poland .. and so forth.



you are well advised to know the differences between ethanol, potable types,
and denatured ones, and Methanol.

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