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dinesh22 11-18-10 08:03 AM

I think touring involves stopping at certain destinations (cities/towns) over a period of days while Long Distance Cycling focuses more on the distance covered than on the destinations that one stops at. For example, I just finished off with the Faster, Fitter and Greener ride (by TI cycles of India) which went on from Udaipur to Delhi. For those of you who donít know, FFG is an event held every year to promote health, fitness and environmental safety by encouraging people to take up cycling.
Was a pretty cool event overall and I think the event came under the definitions of a tour because it concentrated more on destinations than distance...

Ayaz 11-18-10 08:32 AM

Saw a bit of the Faster, Fitter, Greener event this year though I’m not sure whether it was a tour or a Long distance Cycling event because although it did stop at a number of destinations, it was 700kms long. And that definitely seems long distance…

Lost again 01-23-11 07:51 PM

I do both. Touring and Long distance riding. There are similarities but there are similarities in road riding and mountain biking too. My road bike could never be used for touring nor could my tour bike be used for club rides. I glean information from both forums that supply this information. Touring requirements are far more complex to me as there is so much more required and this alone sometimes requires a separate forum in itself.

ThermionicScott 04-15-12 01:36 PM

I'm way late to think of this, but maybe the forum should have been named "Audacious Cycling"? ;)

unterhausen 04-15-12 02:14 PM

one person's audacious ride is another person's "short ride." Naming this forum is a bit of a trick, we have changed it a couple of times, still doesn't stop the occasional misplaced post

fietsbob 04-15-12 04:35 PM

Touring , the lunches are sitting down, and the time spent is not so important.

Brevets, you pick up food, and stuff bags and pockets , and keep riding ,
combined time does matter.

Mash1956 05-04-12 12:17 PM

My and touring and road bike are one in the same, I guess I am insane but my bike is a specialized sirrus sport!

mr geeker 05-08-12 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mr geeker (Post 10965905)
do metric centuries count? if so i wouldn't mind doing one of those and calling it a day.

bump

ThermionicScott 05-10-12 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr geeker (Post 14196185)
bump

Have you done any yet? ;)

Two years on, you ought to be in good enough shape for some "imperial" centuries!

unterhausen 05-10-12 06:49 PM

double and triple metrics only. Did a triple metric last weekend. Looking forward to the quad metric next weekend

wheelinthai 03-10-13 02:44 AM

I enjoy commemorative rides. In Thailand where I live, retired national cyclists some time organize commemorative ride to mark historic race of Tour of Thailand. Participants ride with retired cyclists from national team, and it's usually two abreast . It's sagged ride at quite fast pace, and we stay in hotel at the end of the day. The distance is 150-200Km/day, and the ride is 5 days. Rest is about every 50 Km. What would you actually call this kind of ride?

sleepyrando 06-05-13 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelinthai (Post 15367314)
I enjoy commemorative rides. In Thailand where I live, retired national cyclists some time organize commemorative ride to mark historic race of Tour of Thailand. Participants ride with retired cyclists from national team, and it's usually two abreast . It's sagged ride at quite fast pace, and we stay in hotel at the end of the day. The distance is 150-200Km/day, and the ride is 5 days. Rest is about every 50 Km. What would you actually call this kind of ride?

What's the name of the group? Sounds like something I would wanna try when I'm there!

skiffrun 06-06-13 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wheelinthai (Post 15367314)
I enjoy commemorative rides. In Thailand where I live, retired national cyclists some time organize commemorative ride to mark historic race of Tour of Thailand. Participants ride with retired cyclists from national team, and it's usually two abreast . It's sagged ride at quite fast pace, and we stay in hotel at the end of the day. The distance is 150-200Km/day, and the ride is 5 days. Rest is about every 50 Km. What would you actually call this kind of ride?

fast, supported touring. Similar to Lon Haldeman / Susan Notorangelo PacTours, except PacTours are more allure libre than what you describe.

c.miller64 06-08-13 10:24 PM

IMHO, this forum needs to be split into two separate forums. Ultracycling as one, and long distance cycling and Randonneuring as the other.

Jseis 06-08-13 11:18 PM

I recall starting our 4000 mile trek across North America at a daily average of 35. We finished with daily averages in the last two weeks well over 100 miles with one nearly 130. Many times we finished late in the eve and I wished we had modern lights. I sure admire you guys and gals that ride those incredible distances in 24, 48, 72 hours and there is something to be said for riding lean.

Bekologist 06-09-13 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by c.miller64 (Post 15721413)
IMHO, this forum needs to be split into two separate forums. Ultracycling as one, and long distance cycling and Randonneuring as the other.

Ah, but some of the RUSA randonnuses would still get upset when the non-card carrying allure libre cyclists started chiming in.... a lack of 'controls' and clique, you know?

prestonjb 06-10-13 06:42 PM

am I touring our ldc?

11 days, 1300+ miles... that's within rusa time limits for rides in excess of 1400k!!

check out our site!

https://www.facebook.com/PortlandToPortland2013

wheelinthai 06-10-13 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyrando (Post 15710122)
What's the name of the group? Sounds like something I would wanna try when I'm there!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E0%B...ref=ts&fref=ts
The ride has been postponed to December 1st, I believe. May be you contact the organizer thru his FB above.

Randolfo 06-11-13 05:51 AM

At this time, long distance is 20 miles on a Chinese junk mountain bike, and touring is done by car which is loaded with family.

unterhausen 06-11-13 11:16 AM

for a lot of people, 5 miles is a long distance. Those kinds of posts belong in the general cycling forum which has a lot of friendly, helpful people. This forum is for riders who think that 100 miles is a short ride

Randolfo 06-11-13 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 15730314)
for a lot of people, 5 miles is a long distance. Those kinds of posts belong in the general cycling forum which has a lot of friendly, helpful people. This forum is for riders who think that 100 miles is a short ride

Umm... I am trying to get there. If only I could decide what is going to replace my Junk.

sleepyrando 06-11-13 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelinthai (Post 15728820)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E0%B...ref=ts&fref=ts
The ride has been postponed to December 1st, I believe. May be you contact the organizer thru his FB above.

Thank you! :)

skiffrun 06-12-13 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by c.miller64 (Post 15721413)
IMHO, this forum needs to be split into two separate forums. Ultracycling as one, and long distance cycling and Randonneuring as the other.

I can think of several randonneurs that are also UMCA members. Although the UMCA racing is not randonneuring, the UMCA all-rounder (or whatever the correct name is) is virtually the same as randonneuring. If one were to look up the results of UMCA all-rounders and total mileage hounds, you'll find quite a few long UMCA recognized rides were RUSA brevets and/or permanents. Although I didn't used to think so, the two seem mostly compatible.

Besides, there appears to be barely enough activity on this "combined" forum to make it worthwhile. Splitting it ... even less so.

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Originally Posted by Bekologist (Post 15721789)
Ah, but some of the RUSA randonnuses would still get upset when the non-card carrying allure libre cyclists started chiming in.... a lack of 'controls' and clique, you know?

I don't recall any randonneurs "attacking" non-rando LD. I do recall quite a few non-rando types besmirching the rando rides.

Although there are jerks everywhere, I find that the rando community appears to have a lower percentage of jerks, snobs, etc. than most other cycling "communities." If you're hanging around with randonneurs that are jerks and/or snobs of any sort, you're hanging around with the wrong randonneurs.

rodar y rodar 06-13-13 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skiffrun (Post 15733123)
Besides, there appears to be barely enough activity on this "combined" forum to make it worthwhile. Splitting it ... even less so.

I agree with that.

I also enjoy reading the comments going back and forth in the (relatively few) threads here that are Ultra-specific. Even though I have no inclination to race, I find that stuff fascinating.

unterhausen 06-13-13 07:03 AM

there is too much overlap between long distance racing and rando to split it. My RBA is running a blog following a rider on RAAM, for example

It does seem that the people that don't like organized long distance are antagonistic towards organized rides in general. I occasionally have ambitions of getting more randos to participate here, and I don't think antagonism belongs at all.


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