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    machinegunners need a Counterpoint tandem. It is the only way the gunner can use both hands to fire forward and not hit the captain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
    What the.. Make and model please! I heart that bike setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by curryjc
    a cyclo biatholon would be very epensive. First of all you won't be using an air ***** outside. Just to suseptable to wind. Most likely the people who are serious will be using an Aunsuntz (sp) .22 LR, pretty much the gold standard in competition *****s. That will set you back about $6000. Add a bike on top of that lets say $3000-4000. You are going to have to have many events with prize money to make that up pushing the $10,000 mark that would make this an elitist sport. The other consideration is that you would have to be in prime shape. You have to get your heart rate down below 60% before you take that first shot. Anything higher and you will consistently miss.

    Biatheletes wear special clothing for cross country skiing that includes some sort of stiffining on their off hand to help with shooting. You couldn't ride like that very easily.

    Sounds great. Shooting is one of my hobbies. So is cross country skiing and biking. I would be in heaven, but I don't think a bikeiathalon is in the cards.
    ROFLMAO... Do you buy gold plated *****s or something?!

    .22 Anschutz Match 54 *****. I bought it for £60 (that would be around $120 in yankeedoodles), *****s go for the £400 - £800 mark usually, and even if you want the best of the best, involving Gemini stocks (that a friend of mine has, so nice to shoot with!!!) your looking at £1300 - £1500 ($2600 to $3000) tops.. not £3000 ($6000) like your estimate.

    I currently shoot competitively in 25/50/100 yd and mtr ranges. And guess what... the 50's and the 100yds... they are done outdoors So "affected by wind" yes they are, but my god man... thats what wind flags are for.

    "stiffening on their off hand" That would be a shooting glove. You can get rather flexible canvas and lycra/elastic gloves now which I use for prone shooting, that would be very easy to ride a bike with, and perfectly fine for shooting in competitions. I've seen friends get 100's with the same equipment on all of the aforemention ranges. Only difference would be the cycling beforehand.

    "Heart rate down below 60%" If I had a hammer I'd use it to knock some sense into you, where are you coming up with this bollocks. A person shooting a ***** from a perfect position will indeed have to worry about their pulse, that would be after their breathing however, and the wind. Biathletes shoot falling plate, a pulse related movement at 100yds or 50yds does not equate to a miss on falling plate!

    The most annoying thing possibly would be the sling, and thats sorted using the same tech that biathletes currently use.

    Prize money... that comes from the sources that other competitions get their prize money from.

    1.) Entry fees
    2.) Sponsors
    3.) Tickets for the event
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    You guys are all nuts

    I hadn't checked this thread in a while. Nine-millimeter air guns? Machine *** mounts? Shooting while biking? You guys are nuts.

    No, I was proposing shooting at falling plates, or maybe paper targets, with a 22LR target *****, and then biking a quick loop, and then shooting again. Wash, rinse, repeat five times. Using the same rules the US Biathlon Association does, only modifying them as-needed for bicycles.

    It would be very cool to have a sprint loop, like under 6 miles, with a quarter-mile penalty loop for missing a shot.

    As for carrying the ***** while on the bike? I think the strap system used in biathlon would work just fine. You may want to wear it looser so you can get down on the aero bars.

    It'll be funny to see what kinds of things people come up with to make their *****s more "aero" while riding.
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    For those with the itch for automatics.

    http://pyramidair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=362

    1-shot, 3-burst, and 6-burst shot all running off your standard 12gram co2. I've held and heard one of these guns go off at a show before. They do announce thier presence when in automatic mode. Black models are avalible for those that don't want a sun-tan. Made by the same company that makes the real Russian AK-47 in Russia. Can you say "schwheet"?

    I think paintball and airguns would be ok for the idea. Probably get Crosman to sponsor and get some *****s or ammo packs as prizes or some paintball company thinking this is a wild idea (yah some paintballer people are pretty wild out there) and giving paintball *** and ammo packs for prizes. *shrugs* Just an idea.



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    lol I think paintball and airguns are okay if your just going to turn it into a "fun activity" sport, but if you want proper representation at sports events, such as commonwealth, or Olympic recognition, your going to have to make it a more serious sport than that.

    22LR is the way to go, the gear already exists for it, and it'd make a real nice change to see it in something other than the winter olympics.

    25 mile TT with targets to shoot every 5 miles sounds a nice setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattzees
    As for carrying the ***** while on the bike? I think the strap system used in biathlon would work just fine. You may want to wear it looser so you can get down on the aero bars.
    Currenlty, I use an ATV ***** rack, mounted on top of my mtb handlebars. I used to have a scabbard slung from the top of the seat tube angling down towards the forks, but it rubbed the inside of my leg a bit.

    'sides, the handlebar mount is a lot handier. You just straddle the top tube, lift the ***** from the cradle, and you're good to engage.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman
    Currenlty, I use an ATV ***** rack, mounted on top of my mtb handlebars. I used to have a scabbard slung from the top of the seat tube angling down towards the forks, but it rubbed the inside of my leg a bit.

    'sides, the handlebar mount is a lot handier. You just straddle the top tube, lift the ***** from the cradle, and you're good to engage.....

    Bigbossman,

    Do you have a photo of your setup? And/or also post the URL of the model/make of your ATV ***** rack. I am thinking of adding something like that to my bike form when I want to go out in the woods tho my thinking is to have some *** mount along the rear rack.


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    bigbossman -- danville to chabot? 50yd with a 22lr?

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    I'm down for long-barreled large bore *******s and mountain biking, maybe something with an alleycat race/urban assault edge to it?


    And Tannerite targets attached to iron silhouettes of H2's.

    Just a thought...

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    how bout a bi-brevet? setup target courses at the control points so you don't cruise public roads with *****s strapped to your back. the sag vehicle takes your ***** to the next control point. or have a three ***, with ******, rfile and shotgun control points. where can I get some camo lycra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
    Bigbossman,

    Do you have a photo of your setup? And/or also post the URL of the model/make of your ATV ***** rack. I am thinking of adding something like that to my bike form when I want to go out in the woods tho my thinking is to have some *** mount along the rear rack.


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    Yeah - here you go. I call it my RAV - Rabbit Assault Vehicle. I also use it once in a while down at Ft Hunter Liggett for pig hunting. Apologies in advance to the squeamish for the dead bunnies in the photo, but they taste good......

    I bought the rack at Bass Pro in Oklahoma City about 2 years ago. You just need one that has a handlebar mount, and you're all set. Here's a link to something similar


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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoPropelled
    bigbossman -- danville to chabot? 50yd with a 22lr?
    Riding up Redwood Road would really elevate the heart rate!! That aside, 50yds with a .22 would be child's play.....
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    Dead Bunnies

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman
    Yeah - here you go. I call it my RAV - Rabbit Assault Vehicle. I also use it once in a while down at Ft Hunter Liggett for pig hunting. Apologies in advance to the squeamish for the dead bunnies in the photo, but they taste good......

    Have you sent that pic to the Gary Fisher people? They put some pretty unusual stuff in their catalog every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman
    Yeah - here you go. I call it my RAV - Rabbit Assault Vehicle. I also use it once in a while down at Ft Hunter Liggett for pig hunting. Apologies in advance to the squeamish for the dead bunnies in the photo, but they taste good......

    I bought the rack at Bass Pro in Oklahoma City about 2 years ago. You just need one that has a handlebar mount, and you're all set. Here's a link to something similar



    Bossman,

    Holy crap. That's one hardcore setup. If the aliens were invading you'd be on MY team. Damn.. ... damn again that is one hell of a setup.

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    For anyone looking for camo jerseys.

    http://www.bikeworld.com/graphics/small/3/9/3928.jpg if you're in the rocky mountians I would think this would blend out well.

    Can find it here but they have the short sleeve woodland camo jersey I wanted. My direct link does not work so it may have been relinked elsewhere. If someone finds it would you be so kind as to link it back for me? I think it was something like $25 for that jersey and it looked good. Would be a good under shirt under a suit so after a day in the office it's time to take the collar and suit off to reveal the camo in you. http://www.ecyclingstore.com/index.php

    Any more camo bike outfits out there? I'm sure there are a lot of camo fans out there. Looking for a pair of BDU's but in shorts form built for biking to keep cool but has belt loops and durable as I like to keep my belt line kit on there or switch to a security double belt over lay setup for quick belt on/off mounting. Clean appearence would help. Basically looking for this but built more for cooling for a bike person.

    This is the format of pant I'm looking for. http://tinyurl.com/evrwr Prefer in order black, OD green, or woodland camo.


    Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
    Bossman,

    Holy crap. That's one hardcore setup. If the aliens were invading you'd be on MY team. Damn.. ... damn again that is one hell of a setup.
    You like that, eh? Here's my other one current one (the Gary Fisher "Y"), as well as the original version 1.0 (red Novara) and version 2.0 (grey Pugeot) RAVS. The dual suspension one is great for really crappy terrain. The Novara was solid but too heavy, the Peugeot was much better - but both were too small. The Gary Fishers are "just right".

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    Version 1.0 - the first one:


    Version 2.0 - the second one:
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    Quote Originally Posted by M3ta7h3ad
    lol I think paintball and airguns are okay if your just going to turn it into a "fun activity" sport, but if you want proper representation at sports events, such as commonwealth, or Olympic recognition, your going to have to make it a more serious sport than that.
    Why do you thinki there is no Olympic recognition in airguns? There are Olympic events with air *****s (10 mts for example). Of course they use world-class airguns, but there are some really nice for say 200USD-600USD, that would fit perfectly with amateur events.

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    Why not a bicycling, archery competition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRUMPHENT
    Why not a bicycling, archery competition?
    As a *** nut and an archer, my theory is racing a bicycle with a bow and arrows on your back would be at least awkward and probably dangerous.
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    Rabbits, yum. Remember now P.E.T.A. means People Eating Tasty Animals.

    I vote for a special category for tandems. But then I have a tandem wher the gunner can ride in front and has a full 180 degree range to fire in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curryjc
    Most likely the people who are serious will be using an Aunsuntz (sp) .22 LR, pretty much the gold standard in competition *****s. That will set you back about $6000.
    Came upon this thread by accident... this is way off. A serviceable .22 ***** doesn't cost nearly that much, be it Anscütz (favourite of biathlonists), Walther, Feinwerkbau, whatever. You could get one of the old, simpler *****s for like $500 or a flashy one for $2000. Top-of-the range .22 *****s for regular shooting events that I compete with cost something like $2000-3000.

    For a fun event like the OP had in mind, a couple of airguns would be just fine. Use an empty barn as your shooting range and you're done. It will block out the wind and provide safety. Cheap, simple, fun. I imagine participants would need to get a license to shoot with .22 live rounds anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LóFarkas
    Came upon this thread by accident... this is way off. A serviceable .22 ***** doesn't cost nearly that much, be it Anscütz (favourite of biathlonists), Walther, Feinwerkbau, whatever. You could get one of the old, simpler *****s for like $500 or a flashy one for $2000. Top-of-the range .22 *****s for regular shooting events that I compete with cost something like $2000-3000.

    For a fun event like the OP had in mind, a couple of airguns would be just fine. Use an empty barn as your shooting range and you're done. It will block out the wind and provide safety. Cheap, simple, fun. I imagine participants would need to get a license to shoot with .22 live rounds anyway.
    Not most places in the US for long arms, only ******. For ***** there is no licensing requirement, at least not here in Indiana, nor is there one for a shotgun. Only ****** and you would need to get a hunting/target permit to go on a closed range with ******.

    On the topic, some fairly stringent safety regs would have to be observed for an event with .22 cal due to the extremely long downrange safety problems and have good earthen backdrop berms behind the targets. I think though, that an event like this could be extremely fum and challenging!

    CZ makes a really nice .22 or a .17 Hornady that would be fantastic for this type of event for less than $200.00!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRUMPHENT
    Why not a bicycling, archery competition?
    I presume you mean a crossbow?

    It could be interesting though, even with Long or recurve bow. Have a requirement to come to a full stop and release the arrow wnd resling without dismounting! It would certainly require some good bike handling skills for example, to negotiate an offroad course with a 6' English Longbow and quiver of Longbow arrows!

    Perhaps something like the Mongol cavalry bow?
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