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Old 04-07-07, 06:47 PM   #1
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Long distance saddle

Yes, I know saddles are a VERY personal choice, and everyone likely has a different opinion, but (no pun intended), I'll ask anyway. Have used a Terry Fly, which was comfortable on the sit bones, but not on the "junk" for distances over 50mi, switched to Specialized Toupe, 143mm, and am having the opposite experience. Planning on riding RAIN this summer as well as several centuries & El Tour de Tuscon. I'm relatively light, 5' 11", and 153lbs., not a lot of padding under my sit bones. The other question I have is, can you have your sit bones measured for spacing, and would it be beneficial to do so? Would also like to keep weight to a minimum, if possible. Any other input, suggestions, appreciated!
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So with the Specialized Toupe, you don't get saddle sores on > 50 milers, but < 50 you do? I too have a Terry Fly saddle, and found my sit bone to be a bit sore after around mile 70 and above. Maybe I'll look ath the Specialized saddle too.
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Old 04-07-07, 09:25 PM   #3
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Watch a Settebello clip

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Specialized dealers have an Azz o Meter that measures your sit bones.

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Long distance + comfort = Brooks. Both of mine were perfect out of the box. If you do any bad weather riding, use fenders and a cover. Leather hates getting wet. Good luck.

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Great site. However, the video with the butt ... I've gotta say, that was a bit too much. It was weird. I wonder how long a search they needed to find the model with the right butt.
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Kind of funny, maybe I should get "long time" saddle.........

More isn't better, less isn't best.... I guess fit matters........
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So with the Specialized Toupe, you don't get saddle sores on > 50 milers, but < 50 you do? I too have a Terry Fly saddle, and found my sit bone to be a bit sore after around mile 70 and above. Maybe I'll look ath the Specialized saddle too.
On 50+ mi I get sore sit bones, but no nubness, with the Terry, no sore sit bones but numbness. Hope that clarifies.
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I'm going to try out the Alias. We'll see how that goes.
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Another vote for Brooks here, I have three on different bikes and the Titanium Swift is the most comfortable
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I have the Brooks B-17, and it's getting very comfortable. Not bad right out of the box, but much better with 1000 miles on it. And getting better every day.
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I also have a Fly and love it. Longest ride on it so far 200 miles, but will do more this season. Try tilting it down very slightly, that is, try the nose part of it level or only tilted up a tiny bit, so that the back part is above level. Then, from time to time push back onto the rear of the saddle. That will elevate your perineum. Also stand at every reasonable opportunity. Climbing, stand for one minute in every ten. I think this is true of every saddle, at least it is for me. I have to let the blood flow across my sit bones as well as into my stuff. It's the only saddle that hasn't made me numb after 100 miles, but even it will if I don't stand periodically.
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If I could replace all the chairs in my house with Brooks saddles, I would.
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Great site. However, the video with the butt ... I've gotta say, that was a bit too much. It was weird. I wonder how long a search they needed to find the model with the right butt.

I thought the same thing about the video, but I bought the saddle (Selle Anatomica Titanico)and it's great. I've tried many saddles, cheap & expensive but this is the most comfortable.
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Can someone tell me why they prefer the brooks saddle? I know it is leather, but what else makes it comfortable? Not sold yet on swithching. Terri race fly
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Can someone tell me why they prefer the brooks saddle? I know it is leather, but what else makes it comfortable? Not sold yet on swithching. Terri race fly

I ride a similar saddle to a Brooks and the difference seems to be in the fact that the leather on a Brooks saddle is not resting on a hard plastic platform like those found on the more typical road bike saddle. This allows the leather to give a little with your weight and provides a more comfortable ride. Eventually, you will break in the saddle and depressions will form where your sit bones rest and basically provide a customized seat. On the Brooks I'm told this takes a while.
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I ride a similar saddle to a Brooks and the difference seems to be in the fact that the leather on a Brooks saddle is not resting on a hard plastic platform like those found on the more typical road bike saddle. This allows the leather to give a little with your weight and provides a more comfortable ride. Eventually, you will break in the saddle and depressions will form where your sit bones rest and basically provide a customized seat. On the Brooks I'm told this takes a while.
Thanks! What saddle do you use?
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Thanks! What saddle do you use?

I've just started riding a selle an-atomica. It's a leather saddle much like the Brooks (actually, it was developed using a Brooks saddle) but has a cutout down the center to help protect sensitive areas. Check out their website: http://www.selleanatomica.com/
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Got the An-atomica today...going on the bike tonight...report bacK.
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Please do. I'm quite interested.
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I've had the Specialized Alias for a week now, and so far my butt has not complained. Took it out for an 80 miler, and now real complaints yet. Lot better than that Terry Fly saddle, that's for sure.
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I've tried several of the Brooks saddles. I rode a B-17 for around 3,000 miles, a Team pro for a couple of thousand, and a B-67 for a thousand or so. The leather is extremely comfortable, unbeatable for long distance sit bone comfort. The leather saddles are the only saddles I've ever tried that I want to sit back down on, after a pit stop at mile 80. The leather just conforms perfectly to your backside, you can't get that with any synthetic, or man-made material.

But, they are hard on the perineum, and the prostate. So, if you are one of the many people who can't tolerate the pressure in the center, then the Brooks saddles are not for you. Am I am one of those people. Years ago, when leather saddles were the only type of saddles available, a lot of us simply wouldn't be riding bicycles at all, because we wouldn't be able to tolerate the saddle pressure. And, unfortunately, if you are one of the lucky people who have no problem with the center pressure, and can tolerate the Brooks saddles, then you probably don't understand what I'm talking about. I've found that Brooks devotees just assume that everyone is built like them, and don't see why some people can't ride the leather saddles.

I don't personally understand the Anatomica saddles. I don't understand how the leather could hold the tension of a person sitting on it, when the center part has been cut out. That's the tensioned part of the saddle, isn't it? It just seems to me like it would sag and loose it's shape. Or you'd end up chaffing on the edges on the edges of the leather where it's been cut. But, I haven't tried one, so I guess I don't have an opinion that's worth much.

I've found that the Specialized Body Geometry saddles are almost perfect for me. I ride an Avatar on my everyday road bike (Bianchi Vigorelli, with the bars a couple of inches below the saddle), and a Dolce Gel (yes, I know that it's supposed to be a girls saddle) on my touring bike (Trek 520, with the bars slightly higher than the saddle). Neither of them are as comfortable on the sit bones as a leather saddle, but they both virtually eliminate perineum pressure, which is what I want in a long distance saddle.

Geez, I better slow down on the coffee this morning....
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Great review Thulsadoom ... btw, since you ride with specialized saddles, do you find that it squeeks when you sit and pedal? Not sure if it's an adjustment, or the nature of the saddle.
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I'm in the initial stages of riding a Selle Anatomica saddle. So far, the first thing I noticed is that my butt and sit bones feel great on this saddle. I've tried the Selle SMP, Specialized Alias & Milano and this one is more comfortable on the bones. The perineal area felt good but I only rode about 1.5 hours. I'll delay comment on that until I've had a chance to get out for a 3+ hour ride. There are some questions that can't be answered now as the saddle is new and time will tell how it holds up. But there's no pinching in the sensitive areas. There is a potential for chafing of the inner thighs along the saddle horn ( I experienced this on my very first ride). I tweaked the setup, slight tilt down and slight shift rearward and it seems to have eliminated the problem. I'm really hoping this one works out. But my 2nd best saddle is the Specialized Alias. Although the seat area is harder then the Anatomica, the split down the middle alleviates any perineal pain.
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