Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Long Distance Competition/Ultracycling, Randonneuring and Endurance Cycling Do you enjoy centuries, double centuries, brevets, randonnees, and 24-hour time trials? Share ride reports, and exchange training, equipment, and nutrition information specific to long distance cycling. This isn't for tours, this is for endurance events cycling

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-03-07, 07:07 PM   #1
L_Peter
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
L_Peter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Bikes: Crappy 1988 Trek road bike (not sure what model)
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What is a good breakfast before a double century?

I usually just have a bowl of cereal for breakfast before a ride, and then eat my nutritionz during the ride, but I feel compelled to have a decent breakfast before STP. I need something that won't upset my tummy, and also give me some proper fuel. Any ideas? Thanks.
L_Peter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:08 PM   #2
DMF 
Elitist Troglodyte
 
DMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas
Bikes: 03 Raleigh Professional (steel)
Posts: 6,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Huge thread on this topic a few weeks ago. Search on "breakfast".
__________________
Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

- Will Rogers
DMF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:09 PM   #3
L_Peter
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
L_Peter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Bikes: Crappy 1988 Trek road bike (not sure what model)
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMF
Huge thread on this topic a few weeks ago. Search on "breakfast".
oh, I feel silly now
L_Peter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:09 PM   #4
roadfix
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes:
Posts: 18,555
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
I usually have a big breakfast, but nothing out of the ordinary......but also depends on how early in the morning I take off.
roadfix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:14 PM   #5
L_Peter
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
L_Peter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Bikes: Crappy 1988 Trek road bike (not sure what model)
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadfix
I usually have a big breakfast, but nothing out of the ordinary......but also depends on how early in the morning I take off.
I'm leaving at 4:30ish
L_Peter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:18 PM   #6
YATES
Senior Member
 
YATES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: mississippi
Bikes:
Posts: 387
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
whoa. that's early.. i bet you get to hear lots of birds chirpin
YATES is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:19 PM   #7
chipcom 
Infamous Member
 
chipcom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
Posts: 24,366
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Fill the tank the night before...just top it off in the morning. Pasta and seafood is my fav night-before dinner...crab alfredo...yum. In the morning, just a big bowl of Grape Nut Flakes with milk and strawberries or bananas, nuked in the microwave till it's all warm and mushy.
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:20 PM   #8
rollin
Sua Ku
 
rollin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hot as hell, Singapore
Bikes: Trek 5200, BMC SLC01, BMC SSX, Specialized FSR, Holdsworth Criterium
Posts: 5,707
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by L_Peter
I'm leaving at 4:30ish
I would eat pasta the night before and then a bowl of porridge and a Cliff bar before the ride. That is seriously early!
rollin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:20 PM   #9
Machka 
Long Distance Cyclist
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I ride where the thylacine roamed!
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 45,730
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
A can of Ensure Plus.

Then eat regularly throughout the ride ... 250-300 calories per hour.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:22 PM   #10
HigherGround
Descends Like Avalanche
 
HigherGround's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere between Funkytown and Margaritaville, PA
Bikes: Lynskey R330, Litespeed Classic, Eddy Merckx MX Leader, Specialized Rock Hopper Comp (1988!)
Posts: 5,767
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
__________________
The rider in my avatar is David Etxebarria, not me.
HigherGround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:24 PM   #11
redden
Old fart
 
redden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes: 02 Specialized Allez, Cannondale M700
Posts: 611
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
a double shot of EPO
redden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:28 PM   #12
flaco
Senior Member
 
flaco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 515
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
All fine ideas, except the beer maybe. Just don't try anything new on the day of the event.

Me, I eat a big ol' bowl of Grape-nuts with Vitasoy in the morning of a big ride. Supplies a nice long burn.
flaco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:41 PM   #13
Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Bikes:
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I personally eat a stack of pancakes or three pieces of french toast or three waffles. I will throw in a cliff bar if the ride is going to be long. Often I'll eat that bar along the way.
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 07:42 PM   #14
Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Bikes:
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
To me eating cereal is a bad idea. The milk is upsetting for the gut. And frankly, the cereal for me doesn't last but an hour or so. I never eat cereal when I am going to exercise.
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 08:39 PM   #15
flaco
Senior Member
 
flaco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 515
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
To me eating cereal is a bad idea. The milk is upsetting for the gut. And frankly, the cereal for me doesn't last but an hour or so. I never eat cereal when I am going to exercise.
Yeah, dairy upsets my stomach too, that's why I do the Vitasoy instead. I have to steer away from refined sugar also, so no waffle syrup, or donuts, etc.
flaco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 10:50 PM   #16
ericgu
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 1,941
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Last year before my one-day ride, I had a single clif bar.

You really don't want a big lump of food in your stomach - it takes a lot of blood to digest it, which starves your muscles.

And, as a general rule, I see far more people eating too much food on long rides than too little. 250 calories (up to perhaps 350 if you're a bit bigger) is about all most people can handle during exercise. That's not that much food.
__________________
Eric

2005 Trek 5.2 Madone, Red with Yellow Flames (Beauty)
199x Lemond Tourmalet, Yellow with fenders (Beast)

Read my cycling blog at http://riderx.info/blogs/riderx
Like climbing? Goto http://www.bicycleclimbs.com
ericgu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-07, 10:50 PM   #17
L_Peter
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
L_Peter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Bikes: Crappy 1988 Trek road bike (not sure what model)
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Weird, I just noticed this thread in the Road forum, but I didn't put it there. ??
L_Peter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 08:33 AM   #18
Richard Cranium
Senior Member
 
Richard Cranium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Deep in the Shawnee Forest
Bikes: LeMond - Gunnar
Posts: 2,825
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
I need something that won't upset my tummy, and also give me some proper fuel. Any ideas?
Practice makes perfect. The faster you want to start the ride, the less you eat.
Richard Cranium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 10:32 AM   #19
DMF 
Elitist Troglodyte
 
DMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas
Bikes: 03 Raleigh Professional (steel)
Posts: 6,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Lots of contradictory advice. I hesitate to say that means at least half of it is wrong, so draw your own conclusions.

You definitely want food in you when you start. You want the right type of food and in the right place.

For type of food, you want something that will stay with you (that leaves out sugar), something that isn't hard to digest (that leaves out fats—fatty meats and most dairy), and something that yields usable calories (that leaves out a host of things, like high protein and leafy veggies). High carb like pasta and pancakes is very good. (You don't need to avoid sugar or veggies; don't make them the primary component.)

For 'in the right place', translate to time. You want the food well clear of the stomach etc. before heavy exertion. Allow about two hours. You also don't want it fully processed, so no more than 8 hours (est.). If your heavy meal is the night before, then breakfast doesn't really matter. A sugar jolt is okay—try fruit instead of processed sugar. Or both, like a slice or two of pie.

My own self, I usually eat a light breakfast, but before a century starting at 8am, I'll put down a big plate of pasta about 6am.
__________________
Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

- Will Rogers
DMF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 10:50 AM   #20
Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Bikes:
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
This was interesting. I just took a short ride--27 miles or so. I ate only a clif bar before I left. I was riding to the beach where we were going to have breakfast. I was bonking within the first seven miles. I have to have food before I ride or I don't ride. I stopped at someone's house where I got a jelly sandwich. All was fine then. I just don't have the experience that it is a matter of what you ate the day before. I must have a good breakfast (lots of carbs) or forget it. And I've been riding lots of miles for many years. Pasta at 6 a.m. just sounds nasty.
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 06:42 PM   #21
Thulsadoom
Senior Member
 
Thulsadoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Gouverneur NY
Bikes: 2003 BIANCHI VIGORELLI, 2002 TREK 520, Schwinn Mesa WINTER BIKE
Posts: 1,257
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm going to do a double Saturday. I'll have my normal breakfast an hour or so before the start. 3 or 4 egg whites and rice, cooked together. A bagel, a glass of orange juice, and some coffee. I'll spend the first 45 mins to an hour on the bike warming up, so the meal will furthur digest during that time. After that, I'll kick it up to a good, sustainable pace, and begin to nibble a variety of foods(liquid and solid) for the remainder of the ride. Like Ensure, clif bars(chocolate chip peanut crunch), dried apricots, bagels, pretzels, banannas.
Thulsadoom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 08:06 PM   #22
spokenword
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Bikes: ANT Club Racer, 2004 Trek 520
Posts: 1,117
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMF
Lots of contradictory advice. I hesitate to say that means at least half of it is wrong, so draw your own conclusions.
Or that some of this advice is wrong for half the people. Everyone's a little different so, indeed, draw your own conclusions.

Personally, my habit for long rides is, on the night before the ride, throw some scotch oats in a pot with water, bring to a simmer for five minutes with some chopped dried apples and cinammon. Turn off heat after five minutes, then go to bed. Wake up, reheat the pot with a bit of added water and have the oatmeal with a slight spike of honey. Ride easy to the start and be all warmed up and fed for the event.
spokenword is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 08:35 PM   #23
Slow*Jim
Artful Dodger
 
Slow*Jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dublin, Ohio
Bikes: 06 Schwinn Fastback triple
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Oatmeal.
Slow*Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-07, 10:53 PM   #24
Six jours
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 6,401
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I always mention the classic old road racer's breakfast of rare steak and rice. This is so counter to the current fads that I think it gets ignored as the rantings of a fool...
Six jours is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-07, 07:22 AM   #25
supcom
You need a new bike
 
supcom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Bikes:
Posts: 5,433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I see no difference nutritionally, between riding centuries and doubles. Just do the same for a double that you do for a single century.
supcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:23 AM.