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Old 12-04-08, 04:03 PM   #1
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Brooks Swallow

OK, I've read all the posts I can find in the search but none have explicitly answered this question.

For all you LD guys and gals that own a swallow, would you ride a brevet series or say....PBP on it?

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Old 12-05-08, 11:13 AM   #2
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sure. why not?
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dunno about the swallow, but i wouldn't do anything over a 600k on my swift... it's a tad too narrow for me, at least when it comes to 400k+ rides.
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All the reviews that say its comfortable fail to mention for how long or what distance.
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I've done double centuries on butchered Brooks. No problem.
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Brooks are so over rated, if you want a comfortable saddle for long distance, this is the only leather saddle you need.

http://www.mcmwin.com/saddle%20shop%20new.htm
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I've done double centuries on butchered Brooks. No problem.
Hi, what do you mean by "butchered Brooks?" I can think of a lot of things one could cut, but what worked for you?
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Here is a good example of a "butchered" brooks by Jur over in the folder section

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jdekter/misc/brooks.html
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Hi, what do you mean by "butchered Brooks?" I can think of a lot of things one could cut, but what worked for you?
By "butchered" I mean trimming the side skirts mainly, and a little from the nose and the rear for a sleeker look. My butchered jobs were strictly done for aesthics, and nothing else. Most love it and many think they're ugly. I've got a few photos of my saddles posted on the Wallingford and Fixed Gear Gallery sites under "Butchered Brooks".
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Here is a good example of a "butchered" brooks by Jur over in the folder section

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jdekter/misc/brooks.html
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Well, that is a fine piece of work!! I could do that to my B-17N Imperial.
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By "butchered" I mean trimming the side skirts mainly, and a little from the nose and the rear for a sleeker look. My butchered jobs were strictly done for aesthics, and nothing else. Most love it and many think they're ugly. I've got a few photos of my saddles posted on the Wallingford and Fixed Gear Gallery sites under "Butchered Brooks".
Thanks. Obviously there are many possible modifications. The Wallingford even shows one where a cutout was done, with rolled edges.
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Brooks are so over rated, if you want a comfortable saddle for long distance, this is the only leather saddle you need.

http://www.mcmwin.com/saddle%20shop%20new.htm
Not for everyone. I had one and eBayed it. Just couldn't get comfortable on it. Tightened it all the way up and still felt like I was sagging and never felt like I had the same power output while on the Swallow or B17.

Love my B17 on the FG and the Swallow on the IF.
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OK, I've read all the posts I can find in the search but none have explicitly answered this question.

For all you LD guys and gals that own a swallow, would you ride a brevet series or say....PBP on it?
did a brevet series on mine.
planning on a 1200k.

i switch between my b17 and the swallow. last year did plenty of centuries on the swallow... and a 300k on the b17 (along with plenty of other centuries).
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done a bunch of 100+ milers as well as a double on my swift and thats ben just fine......


dunno about the swallow. get one and let us know!
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This topic is so subjective... It depends a lot on your saddle to bar drop, sit bone width, and cadence. Wallbike and others have programs where one can try out a saddle and exchange for another if the first doesn't work. This seems like it'd be a good option for you. I have a B17 standard on my distance bike and a Pro on my more aggressive bike, both are laced up for the sake of firmness. They are awesome on these setups.
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Brooks saddles are not over-rated, in my opinion. But, to be fair to Titanico, I think they are apples and oranges; both are leather, but are designed and intended for different reasons.

Brooks are an old traditional leather saddle maker. We know that - and, we know they are more popular than ever, and for all the reasons mentioned every time these threads come up.

Titanico saddles are an attempt to serve those who, for whatever reasons, can't get used to, or can't tolerate the sometimes grueling break-in of a Brooks. It's a fair issue. They are fine saddles in the same sense that brooks are.

My only problem with them is that they do tend to be softer than a Brooks. Meaning: more pliable, plush, and flexible, right from the start. One would almost have to design them that way in order to keep a rider on them in the first 200 miles. This is the most puzzling period for Brooks riders when they first begin getting "aquainted" with their Brooks.

Titanico riders should understand that they will likely be adjusting the tensioner quite soon and possibly often. Nice saddle, though.
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