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    Simulated 200k (?)

    I plan to try 200k, starting before sunrise tomorrow. I want to see if I can pace well, and get the distance within 13:30. My first qualifier is a month away, 200k. I did few centuries this year, and commute 30 miles most days. Did 50 last Sat. I feel I could do a century, at least.

    First, is it wise to train this long? Also, what aspects of the brevet would you want to simulate? I'll use the lights early on. I'll carry food, water, tools, etc. I could make myself a cue sheet. What else?

    On this issue of no support, does this mean tools, tires, etc.? Can a rider stop at 7-11, for example? thanks.
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    If your 200 is a month away, assuming you already have some interim distances under your belt, it shouldn't be a big deal to work up to near the distance beforehand.

    No real need to do a 200 now, especially if you aren't ready for it.

    Lights, though required under rules, will probably not come into play on a 200.

    You can stop anywhere you want, as long as you get through controls during opening/closing window.
    It is said, and I agree, that if you can ride 50kilometres non-stop, you can complete a 200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
    On this issue of no support, does this mean tools, tires, etc.? Can a rider stop at 7-11, for example? thanks.
    No support means ...
    -- you carry your own tools and food and equipment, or
    -- you find or buy tools and food and equipment along the way as necessary

    So, in other words, if you flatted and used your last tube to fix it, you could stop by a hardware store, or bicycle shop to pick up another tube. But you could not have a friend drive out and give you a tube.

    Or, if you ran out of food and water somewhere along the way, you could stop in at a 7-11 and replenish your supplies. But you could not have a friend meet you, and give you food and water.


    I did a 200K before my official 200K ... well, actually, I did several of them. So it's not a bad idea. Just ride it like you would ride a brevet. Around here a solo 200 km ride and a 200K brevet would look identical, except that on a solo 200 km ride, I could take as long as I wanted, and I'd have a time limit for the 200K brevet.

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    join RUSA and get the good book. it will fill your head with many nuggets of randon info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post

    So, in other words, if you flatted and used your last tube to fix it, you could stop by a hardware store, or bicycle shop to pick up another tube. But you could not have a friend drive out and give you a tube.

    Or, if you ran out of food and water somewhere along the way, you could stop in at a 7-11 and replenish your supplies. But you could not have a friend meet you, and give you food and water.

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    but you could have a friend meet you at a control... or have your support car meet you at a control... or call the bike shop and have someone ride out to a control and help... although support cars are legal, they are not in the spirit of randonneuring.

    and you can leave the route and ride to a shop, your favorite brew pub, etc... so long as you re-enter the route exactly where you left it. (so if you break a spoke and you need a repair and a shop is 5 miles off the route... you can ride there, get your wheel fixed, and get back on course... but be quick so you don't miss the next control...)

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    How did you get on?

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    I just got back. A friend asked if I wanted to go to the Dog Track today (more later), so I did not leave until 10 a.m. I told him I could only pop in for a few minutes; he was very surprised to see that I rode all the way there. The Dog Track is 40 miles away, so that took care of the first 80 miles. Then I ran up and down the river near home until I hit 125 (miles). I made myself a cue sheet for the first part, and took a few unknown roads. Only stopped for 30 minutes for lunch at the track, and 10 minutes at home. Finished in about 9 + 1/2 hours.

    I rode 2 gears below my normal commuting/club ride pace, which seemed to serve me very well. I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka). Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles! I also feel better now than I did after any of my centuries, where I always rode my training pace early, and had to grind out the last 20 miles.

    No real adversity--an unexpected Christmas Parade, a Kamikaze Egret, the usual 15 mph wind. I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

    And now the best part... The first thing I did when I got home was to check on the outcome of my ten bucks at the Dog Track. I had "all" in the feature, tied to (I thought) a promising first time starter in the finale(the horses at Tampa). The feature was won by a $61 bombshell, and my maiden also won at 11 to 1, so my double was a very merry christmas. Your two greatest allies at the track: dumb luck and a quick exit. Great day all around.

    I feel ready now for the first qualifier, even if they do throw some hills at me. I don't think I'll go this far again until the series begins. Maybe a few 70 to 80 milers, and some hills (such as I can find around here).
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    Congratulations ... well ridden!

    Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles!

    -- This is a very important discovery ... keep it in mind when you get to the brevet series.

    I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka).

    -- How are your feet?

    I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

    -- My bicycle and I are covered in sports drink by the end of the rides. It seems to be normal for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    Congratulations ... well ridden!

    Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles!

    -- This is a very important discovery ... keep it in mind when you get to the brevet series.

    I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka).

    -- How are your feet?

    I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

    -- My bicycle and I are covered in sports drink by the end of the rides. It seems to be normal for me.
    The feet are good. It seems like the blisters on prior rides were resulting from my poor form. My bike often has coffee stains; I ride to work with a thermos and a sippy cup in the bottle cages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
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    Finished in about 9 + 1/2 hours.
    Yeah I thought your 13:30 estimate was a bit pessimistic.
    Good effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    Yeah I thought your 13:30 estimate was a bit pessimistic.
    Good effort.
    cb mentioned that time as the outside limit for a 200k brevet, under ACP regulations.

    Congrats cb, that's a decent result!
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