Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Long Distance Competition/Ultracycling, Randonneuring and Endurance Cycling Do you enjoy centuries, double centuries, brevets, randonnees, and 24-hour time trials? Share ride reports, and exchange training, equipment, and nutrition information specific to long distance cycling. This isn't for tours, this is for endurance events cycling

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-12-08, 03:56 PM   #1
chewybrian 
"Florida Man"
Thread Starter
 
chewybrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: East Florida
Bikes: '66 Raleigh Superbe, 80 Nishiki Maxima, 07 Gary Fisher Utopia, 09 Surly LHT
Posts: 1,561
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Simulated 200k (?)

I plan to try 200k, starting before sunrise tomorrow. I want to see if I can pace well, and get the distance within 13:30. My first qualifier is a month away, 200k. I did few centuries this year, and commute 30 miles most days. Did 50 last Sat. I feel I could do a century, at least.

First, is it wise to train this long? Also, what aspects of the brevet would you want to simulate? I'll use the lights early on. I'll carry food, water, tools, etc. I could make myself a cue sheet. What else?

On this issue of no support, does this mean tools, tires, etc.? Can a rider stop at 7-11, for example? thanks.
__________________
Campione Del Mondo Immaginario
chewybrian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-08, 04:13 PM   #2
Randochap
Recovering mentalist
 
Randochap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: On the Edge
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 2,810
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If your 200 is a month away, assuming you already have some interim distances under your belt, it shouldn't be a big deal to work up to near the distance beforehand.

No real need to do a 200 now, especially if you aren't ready for it.

Lights, though required under rules, will probably not come into play on a 200.

You can stop anywhere you want, as long as you get through controls during opening/closing window.
It is said, and I agree, that if you can ride 50kilometres non-stop, you can complete a 200.

Check my site for more rando info.

RUSA calculator here.
Randochap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-08, 07:40 PM   #3
Machka 
Long Distance Cyclist
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I ride where the thylacine roamed!
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 45,771
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
On this issue of no support, does this mean tools, tires, etc.? Can a rider stop at 7-11, for example? thanks.
No support means ...
-- you carry your own tools and food and equipment, or
-- you find or buy tools and food and equipment along the way as necessary

So, in other words, if you flatted and used your last tube to fix it, you could stop by a hardware store, or bicycle shop to pick up another tube. But you could not have a friend drive out and give you a tube.

Or, if you ran out of food and water somewhere along the way, you could stop in at a 7-11 and replenish your supplies. But you could not have a friend meet you, and give you food and water.


I did a 200K before my official 200K ... well, actually, I did several of them. So it's not a bad idea. Just ride it like you would ride a brevet. Around here a solo 200 km ride and a 200K brevet would look identical, except that on a solo 200 km ride, I could take as long as I wanted, and I'd have a time limit for the 200K brevet.

Don't forget a jacket.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-08, 07:52 PM   #4
bmike
Bye Bye
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Gone gone gone
Bikes:
Posts: 3,677
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
join RUSA and get the good book. it will fill your head with many nuggets of randon info.
__________________
So long. Been nice knowing you BF.... to all the friends I've made here and in real life... its been great. But this place needs an enema.
bmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-08, 07:54 PM   #5
bmike
Bye Bye
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Gone gone gone
Bikes:
Posts: 3,677
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka View Post

So, in other words, if you flatted and used your last tube to fix it, you could stop by a hardware store, or bicycle shop to pick up another tube. But you could not have a friend drive out and give you a tube.

Or, if you ran out of food and water somewhere along the way, you could stop in at a 7-11 and replenish your supplies. But you could not have a friend meet you, and give you food and water.

.
but you could have a friend meet you at a control... or have your support car meet you at a control... or call the bike shop and have someone ride out to a control and help... although support cars are legal, they are not in the spirit of randonneuring.

and you can leave the route and ride to a shop, your favorite brew pub, etc... so long as you re-enter the route exactly where you left it. (so if you break a spoke and you need a repair and a shop is 5 miles off the route... you can ride there, get your wheel fixed, and get back on course... but be quick so you don't miss the next control...)
__________________
So long. Been nice knowing you BF.... to all the friends I've made here and in real life... its been great. But this place needs an enema.
bmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-08, 03:09 PM   #6
znomit
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
 
znomit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Zealand
Bikes: Giant Defy Composite,Trek 1.7c, Specy Hardrock, Nishiki SL1, Jamis Commuter
Posts: 3,309
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
How did you get on?
znomit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-08, 07:22 PM   #7
chewybrian 
"Florida Man"
Thread Starter
 
chewybrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: East Florida
Bikes: '66 Raleigh Superbe, 80 Nishiki Maxima, 07 Gary Fisher Utopia, 09 Surly LHT
Posts: 1,561
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
I just got back. A friend asked if I wanted to go to the Dog Track today (more later), so I did not leave until 10 a.m. I told him I could only pop in for a few minutes; he was very surprised to see that I rode all the way there. The Dog Track is 40 miles away, so that took care of the first 80 miles. Then I ran up and down the river near home until I hit 125 (miles). I made myself a cue sheet for the first part, and took a few unknown roads. Only stopped for 30 minutes for lunch at the track, and 10 minutes at home. Finished in about 9 + 1/2 hours.

I rode 2 gears below my normal commuting/club ride pace, which seemed to serve me very well. I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka). Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles! I also feel better now than I did after any of my centuries, where I always rode my training pace early, and had to grind out the last 20 miles.

No real adversity--an unexpected Christmas Parade, a Kamikaze Egret, the usual 15 mph wind. I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

And now the best part... The first thing I did when I got home was to check on the outcome of my ten bucks at the Dog Track. I had "all" in the feature, tied to (I thought) a promising first time starter in the finale(the horses at Tampa). The feature was won by a $61 bombshell, and my maiden also won at 11 to 1, so my double was a very merry christmas. Your two greatest allies at the track: dumb luck and a quick exit. Great day all around.

I feel ready now for the first qualifier, even if they do throw some hills at me. I don't think I'll go this far again until the series begins. Maybe a few 70 to 80 milers, and some hills (such as I can find around here).
__________________
Campione Del Mondo Immaginario
chewybrian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-08, 07:34 PM   #8
Machka 
Long Distance Cyclist
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I ride where the thylacine roamed!
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 45,771
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Congratulations ... well ridden!

Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles!

-- This is a very important discovery ... keep it in mind when you get to the brevet series.

I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka).

-- How are your feet?

I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

-- My bicycle and I are covered in sports drink by the end of the rides. It seems to be normal for me.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-08, 07:57 PM   #9
chewybrian 
"Florida Man"
Thread Starter
 
chewybrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: East Florida
Bikes: '66 Raleigh Superbe, 80 Nishiki Maxima, 07 Gary Fisher Utopia, 09 Surly LHT
Posts: 1,561
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Congratulations ... well ridden!

Going slower early did not really hurt my overall time, as I was still spinning well even after 100 miles!

-- This is a very important discovery ... keep it in mind when you get to the brevet series.

I focused hard on form and pace (no toe down, thanks Machka).

-- How are your feet?

I accidentally spit on myself once-doh! (wind). Given my freakishly thick arm hair, that wasn't pretty.

-- My bicycle and I are covered in sports drink by the end of the rides. It seems to be normal for me.
The feet are good. It seems like the blisters on prior rides were resulting from my poor form. My bike often has coffee stains; I ride to work with a thermos and a sippy cup in the bottle cages.
__________________
Campione Del Mondo Immaginario
chewybrian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-08, 08:19 PM   #10
znomit
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
 
znomit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Zealand
Bikes: Giant Defy Composite,Trek 1.7c, Specy Hardrock, Nishiki SL1, Jamis Commuter
Posts: 3,309
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
I
Finished in about 9 + 1/2 hours.
Yeah I thought your 13:30 estimate was a bit pessimistic.
Good effort.
znomit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-08, 01:02 AM   #11
Randochap
Recovering mentalist
 
Randochap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: On the Edge
Bikes: Too many
Posts: 2,810
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by znomit View Post
Yeah I thought your 13:30 estimate was a bit pessimistic.
Good effort.
cb mentioned that time as the outside limit for a 200k brevet, under ACP regulations.

Congrats cb, that's a decent result!
Randochap is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:55 AM.