Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 22 of 22
  1. #1
    Senior Member A.Winthrop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    111
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Is This What Long-Distance Cycling Is About?

    Removed
    Last edited by A.Winthrop; 09-01-10 at 06:46 AM.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Waynesboro,PA
    My Bikes
    08 LHT and 13 giant defy 2 composite
    Posts
    301
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sounds more like a touring than long distance.
    A nice ride anyhow.

  3. #3
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    To answer the question in the title, no, that is not what long distance riding is all about. That's what touring is all about. There is a lot of confusion about that, maybe we should change the name of the forum to come after touring.

    Touring is an entirely different pursuit than long distance riding. I have always had a lot of respect for tourists, they have a lot of specialized expertise. That's why I try to keep the touring questions in the touring forum.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Steamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    high ground
    Posts
    463
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    To answer the question in the title, no, that is not what long distance riding is all about. That's what touring is all about. There is a lot of confusion about that, maybe we should change the name of the forum to come after touring.
    How about 'Ultra Cycling and Randonneuring'?

  5. #5
    One legged rider
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Moraga, CA
    My Bikes
    Kuota Kharma, Surly LHT, CAAD9, Bianchi fg/ss
    Posts
    1,389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's all arbitrary. I think there is a lot of crossover between long distance, road cycling, touring, etc. For instance...if I do a 5 or 6 day, 150 mile a day credit card tour and race other people on a road racing bike am I doing a long distance ride, a bike tour, or a stage race? Ultimately its all just riding a bike, and probably kind of hard to draw a definitive line between the different types.

  6. #6
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    of course there is some overlap, but it would be really inefficient to have one big forum. I really don't think that touring and randonneuring or long distance racing are all that similar though. A tourist can say, "I'm tired, not riding well, I'll stop." The worst that can happen is they don't get to stop quite as soon as they want. For the various categories of long distance rider, that same decision means the ride of shame in a SAG or similar alternatives. Conversely, touring often means a ride that continues for quite some time, whereas a long distance ride generally lasts 1-4 days at the most.

  7. #7
    Reeks of aged cotton duck Hydrated's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Middle Georgia, USA
    My Bikes
    2008 Kogswell PR mkII, 1996 Serotta Atlanta, 1984 Trek 520, 1979 Raleigh Comp GS, 1995 Trek 950, 1979 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist
    Posts
    1,155
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I know that I'm gonna get flamed, but I just have to say it:

    I find efforts like the one described in the article to be naive, pointless and narcissistic. Riding your bike is going to suddenly cause the world to become peaceful? C'mon... I ain't buying what this guy is selling. I have a much more cynical view... and I see a guy who wants to have a grand adventure and write a book about himself. He even said it in the article. And he's plucking people's heartstrings with "world peace" to get money to continue having his great adventure. Who can say "no" to world peace? Pass the hat... quick... while the crowd is mushy!

    Did anyone pay attention to the article? The guy has been attacked simply because he was carrying a flag that the native population didn't like. Nice. Strike a great blow for world peace... bah.
    "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell

  8. #8
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Call me a cynic, but touring for charity seems to be a good way to get people to pay for your tour and gives you an excuse why you took a year off from work.

  9. #9
    Senior Member canopus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Kingwood, TX
    My Bikes
    1985 Cannondale SR300, 1985 Cannondale ST400, Gary Littlejohn Cruiser, BMX
    Posts
    1,207
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    Call me a cynic, but touring for charity seems to be a good way to get people to pay for your tour and gives you an excuse why you took a year off from work.
    Yeah, I'm taking notes....

  10. #10
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If you write well enough, it does seem that you can get people to help pay for a tour even if you aren't raising money for a charity. I know I have watched people's tours on crazyguy, and it is a lot of fun.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Richard Cranium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Deep in the Shawnee Forest
    My Bikes
    LeMond - Gunnar
    Posts
    2,786
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nice work if you can get it. SO far I've ridden to to two coffee shop wi-fi spots- so who wants to tune in to a yahoo web cam to see Richard Cranium drink coffee and end world hunger, cure cancer and generally preach on and on about how great cycling is?

    ...

    That's what I thought.

  12. #12
    Gears? CliftonGK1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    My Bikes
    '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2009 Spesh Singlecross, 2011 RM Flow1
    Posts
    11,304
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cranium View Post
    Nice work if you can get it. SO far I've ridden to to two coffee shop wi-fi spots- so who wants to tune in to a yahoo web cam to see Richard Cranium drink coffee and end world hunger, cure cancer and generally preach on and on about how great cycling is?

    ...

    That's what I thought.
    There was a guy following my Qik video live stream as I did an update from one of the controls on my last 200k. So maybe there is someone out there who wants to watch RC's Tour de Starbucks ride.
    "I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
    - Mandi M.

  13. #13
    One legged rider
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Moraga, CA
    My Bikes
    Kuota Kharma, Surly LHT, CAAD9, Bianchi fg/ss
    Posts
    1,389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    of course there is some overlap, but it would be really inefficient to have one big forum. I really don't think that touring and randonneuring or long distance racing are all that similar though. A tourist can say, "I'm tired, not riding well, I'll stop." The worst that can happen is they don't get to stop quite as soon as they want. For the various categories of long distance rider, that same decision means the ride of shame in a SAG or similar alternatives. Conversely, touring often means a ride that continues for quite some time, whereas a long distance ride generally lasts 1-4 days at the most.
    A valid argument. I think for the purposes of a discussion forum its a good point as the topics of conversation will be vastly different. The majority of the conversation in the touring forum is about camping and routes, not all that much about bikes at all.

  14. #14
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    36,703
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
    How about 'Ultra Cycling and Randonneuring'?
    I like that! Even just simply "Ultracycling" would be fine. After all, the Ultra Marathon Cycling Association: http://www.ultracycling.com/ includes rides as short as centuries in their calendar.



    And IMO, long distance cycling is much closer to road cycling than it is to touring.

  15. #15
    Senior Member raydog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Reno, Nevada
    My Bikes
    Pinarello, Cannondale Team Scalpel, Raleigh
    Posts
    265
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    my thoughts

    No matter how many specific behaviors/equipment exist under "long distance" that differentiate it from "touring".......I find myself consolidating aspects of each genre into each of my rides. Other than official competition, I am a combination of the two.
    Forgive me in advance if sometime I accidently make a "touring" type statement in the "long distance" section. Any ridicule I may recieve will be more that compensated for by the many great comments and insights that are offered. I feel comfortable in both forums, I camp over many nights on one ride and I ride many centuries (3 in May already, 4 after the 31st!).
    On June 14th a friend and I (each with Bob trailers) will do "'8 centuries in 8 days" ending at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. I will post the experience in both forums since some do not cross over for some reason!? Raydog
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by raydog; 05-29-10 at 09:45 PM. Reason: please insert this into "touring vrs long distance" thread

  16. #16
    Senior Member raydog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Reno, Nevada
    My Bikes
    Pinarello, Cannondale Team Scalpel, Raleigh
    Posts
    265
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    "Is this what long distance cycling is about?" thread is where I meant to post this.....sorry, I pushed the wrong button. Anyways, they are my thoughts!

  17. #17
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    36,703
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Long distance riding is generally closer to Road cycling than it is to Touring. But there's nothing wrong with doing all three. I do shorter rides on the road (Road Cycling), I do cycling tours of various sorts (Touring), and I ride randonnees, 24-hour events, centuries etc. (Long Distance Cycling).

    I do think, however, that the name of this forum might benefit from a change from "Long Distance Cycling, Randonneuring, and Endurance Cycling" to "Ultra-Cycling - Long Distance and Endurance Cycling" or something very similar to that.


    In your particular case 8 centuries in 8 days would indeed be both long distance cycling because you are covering a long distance each day you are riding, and touring because you're sleeping a full night and getting up in the morning to do it all over again. In some cases there is some overlap because some tours involve lengthy daily distances.

  18. #18
    Senior Member raydog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Reno, Nevada
    My Bikes
    Pinarello, Cannondale Team Scalpel, Raleigh
    Posts
    265
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yeah, I can see the distinctions, I (in the short time I've really been immersed in bicycling (1 1/2 years) think the answer is.....just do the cycling stuff that turns you on the most then see which category fits most appropriately! I really don't yet know where I belong the most, so far it's a hybrid corner called "high speed, long distance, test yourself, touring" !
    Raydog

  19. #19
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    36,703
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    Yeah, I can see the distinctions, I (in the short time I've really been immersed in bicycling (1 1/2 years) think the answer is.....just do the cycling stuff that turns you on the most then see which category fits most appropriately! I really don't yet know where I belong the most, so far it's a hybrid corner called "high speed, long distance, test yourself, touring" !
    Raydog
    The thing is, you don't have to pick one category ... you can do and enjoy many categories. I commuted by bicycle regularly for 6 years, and then occasionally after that. I've done some mtn biking, and would like to get into that a little bit more. I've ridden a couple recumbents, and they are on my wish list. I've owned and ridden a tandem, and Rowan and I have been talking about trying and then getting one for us. We're also considering a pair of folders. I raced for three years, and do a lot of road riding. I've toured fairly extensively. And I enjoy riding long distances.

    Variety is the spice of life.

    And when it comes to the forums, I'll participate in many different sub-forums. When I want to talk about touring, I'll go to the Touring forum. When I want to talk about road cycling in general, I'll go to the Road forum, and when I want to talk about riding a 300K randonnee ... I'll come to the Long Distance forum.

  20. #20
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would advise to stick to touring for the ride report. There is no reason to spam the forums. I know nobody reads the rules, but here is the applicable one:

    Spamming
    Spamming is the multiple posting of an identical or similar post on one or more of our Forums. Spam is also flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose to receive it. Most spam is commercial advertising, often for dubious products, get-rich-quick schemes, or quasi-legal services.
    I would appreciated everyone's assistance in keeping the touring posts in touring. I'd prefer this not be the newbie touring forum just because they don't read down to see that there is a touring forum.

    The OP's trip is a 1200k for all intents and purposes. Thus, randonneurs the world over are doing this distance in less than 4 days.
    Last edited by unterhausen; 05-30-10 at 01:58 PM.

  21. #21
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    36,703
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    But if raydog wants to post about his centuries in the Century Challenge thread, that would be fine.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tury-Challenge

  22. #22
    Randomhead
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    12,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    looking forward to seeing his ride report

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •