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Old 06-02-10, 01:16 PM   #1
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Titanium Frames List?

Hi,
I'm trying to compile a list of Titanium framed bikes with a more relaxed geometry, ability to handle larger tires, and rack/fender mounts. So far I have:

Litespeed Appalachian / Blueridge
Dean Randonneur
Airborne Carpe Diem
Seven Halycon S
Moots Mootour
Independent Fabrications Ti Club Racer

Any others out there?
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Old 06-02-10, 01:41 PM   #2
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Bikes Direct sells a titanium cross bike that fits your description
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I think all or nearly all the manufacturers you listed are US-based. There are several European alternatives, would you be interested in those? Enigma (UK) and Van Nicholas (Netherlands) being the first two that come to mind, I believe both carry models fitting those criteria, and they are pretty decent prices.
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I think all or nearly all the manufacturers you listed are US-based. There are several European alternatives, would you be interested in those? Enigma (UK) and Van Nicholas (Netherlands) being the first two that come to mind, I believe both carry models fitting those criteria, and they are pretty decent prices.
Sure, I'm open to anything, especially with the Euro and Dollar being closer!
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Marinoni, a builder out of Quebec .
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Guru (also from Quebec) builds its own Ti frames
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Lynskey has touring and cross frames that fit your requirements. They could also build a road frame with the features you seek on a custom basis.

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IF Independence in Ti.
Larger tires, larger loads.

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Thanks guys, keep 'em coming! (Although I'm looking only for bikes that are completely Ti, no carbon- ie Marioni)
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I have an Airborne Carpe Diem and I love it. The company went bankrupt a few years back, though, and was reorganized. The Dutch company Van Nicholas is more or less its successor.

A U.S. Airborne was re-launched a few months back (www.airbornebicycles.com.) Looks like they're focused on mountain bikes. I did see an article, though, that said they might be getting into the cyclocross arena -- the Carpe Diem is a cyclocross/light touring frame.
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Hmmm ... interesting ... BF seems to have lost my post from yesterday.

My titanium bicycle has a Hasa frame.
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Everti (Canada) and Pride (USA) both do ti frames at reasonable prices, and have both cx frames and road frames with "sane" geometries.

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Bill Davidson has designed and built a lot of bikes like you are describing -- relaxed geometry, room for larger tires, etc.

Mine has room for 28c's with fenders, and a custom steel fork, and a super-comfortable geometry. Mine also was built w/tough XTR hubs; 135mm spacing in the rear.

He's also built bikes that can take larger tires, even up to 650b's.





Another option would be Hampsten.

Hampsten Ti frames are welded by the same guy who welded my Davidson.

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BengeBoy, where is that, so I make sure to go there?
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I wrote up this list a while ago for another purpose, some of the info will be superfluous but most should be relevant.

The engineer in me deprecates shaped tubing as nonsense and this is obvious in the text, as is my focus on product available in Australia..

Baum Cycles

Darren Baum is a Geelong based artisan who builds what many regard as the most beautiful titanium frames in the world. If you can afford one of his bikes you will not be dissappointed.

Thylacine Cycles

Warwick Gresswell is an industrial designer who went into bike building and marketing. His reputation for customer service and attention to detail is second to none.


The US is still the centre of titanium manufacturing and the source of the best tubing available bar none. There are many frame builders from the large corporates to small one man shops. The industry is particularly concentrated in Tennessee (for historical reasons) and Colorado (the heart of all things mountain bike).

Tennessee:

Pride Cycles

David Atkins has 25 years experience with titanium frame building in Chattanooga Tn (the heart of the US industry). He set up his own shop in 2009 and builds excellent frames for a very good price.

Lynskey

The Lynskey family set up Litespeed many years ago then sold it to American Bicycle Group. They set up under their own name some years ago and now produce highly regarded frames, mostly using shaped tubing.

Litespeed

Now part of the American Bicycle Group. Produce a wide range of bikes at all quality levels at medium to high prices. Shaped and curved tubing is extensively used.

Merlin

Also part of the American Bicycle group.

Colorado:

Moots

Very highly regarded frame builder with a wide range of bikes.

Kent Eriksen

The founder of Moots, extremely highly regarded maker of custom frames, top rank product at top rank pricing.

Dean

Highly regarded frame builder, lower prices than most other US builders. Extensive use of carbon inserts etc.


Other

Independent Fabrication

Highly regarded maker of custom frames, top rank product at top rank pricing.

Seven Cycles

Highly regarded maker of custom frames, top rank product at top rank pricing.

Black Sheep
Cherry
Davidson
DeSalvo
Ellsworth
Funk
Groovy
Ibis
James
Kish
Legend
Nelson
Roark
Serotta
Steve Potts
Strong
Spectrum
Ti Cycles
Ti Sports

Canada

Dekerf

Europe

I am sure there are other European makers but at the moment I can only find
4T
Altira
Amaro
Carraro
Crisp
Demonchaux
Granville
Koba
Le Vacon
Nevi
Paduano
Passoni
Rewel


Japan

Japanese titanium bikes have an excellent reputation but are rarely seen outside Japan

Panasonic (yes, Panasonic)

China / Taiwan

Hasa
Ti Bicycle
Xacd

There are also several companies which resell frames built in Asia or the former Soviet Union and satellites. Some are happy to reveal this, others try as hard as they can to hide it.

Definitive Cycles (Oz)
Spats (Oz)
Burls (UK)
Cotik (UK)
Enigma (UK)
Sabbath (UK)
Habanero (USA) The first guy to sell Asian sourced Ti frames. Excellent reputation and value for money.
Aquila (Canada)
Everti (Canada)
Van Nicholas (Netherlands)
Grey (France)

If I’ve left your company off the list or got some details wrong please pm me and I’ll correct the mistake.

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BengeBoy, where is that, so I make sure to go there?
It's in Mt. Rainier National Park, on the road between Paradise and Stephens Canyon. Looking south over the Tatoosh mountain range.

It's on the RAMROD route....or you can take this delightful day ride and take in the highlights of Mt. Rainier on a 70-mile loop:

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...ford/577634856
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If I’ve left your company off the list or got some details wrong please pm me and I’ll correct the mistake.
Hi, good list.

I would certainly add Hampsten to the list -- most of their bikes are available in steel and titanium, and several are very appropriate for the OP's purposes:

http://www.hampsten.com/tournesol/audax/

Hampsten's Ti frames are made in-house, and by Moots and Independent Fabrication.

There are also a number of new builders in Portland who work in Ti but if you're limiting your list to folks with experience and reputations I'm not sure you want to add new builders:

http://www.cyclespapillon.com/custom

I'd add www.bikesdirect.com to the list of people who are selling Ti frames imported from Asia.
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Thanks for the list. You enabled me to learn about a plethora of fabricators out there that Ive never heard... I found Pride in TN that offers a frame for $1175 not bad!
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Another vote for Marinoni. My Sportivo "Randonee" was built with a few mods for more comfort.
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