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Old 06-07-10, 08:18 AM   #1
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3 Volcanoes 300k

After failing to even attempt the SiR 300k last year, I am hoping to try for Super Randonneur again this summer. 200k, no problem, I've done that multiple times. But then I looked at the profile for the 300k...

http://www.seattlerandonneur.org/rid...005Profile.pdf

18,000 feet of elevation gain? That's more than riding to the end of SR 542 3 times! When I saw this last night, I literally had that sinking feeling in my stomach (a new sensation for me). I think I need some words of encouragement...
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Is there no alternative 300K ride available?
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that's a lot of climbing. Our 300k had over 13000 feet of climbing, but a lot of that is smaller hills. My thought is that if you can ride 300k you can do this, just kick it into the low gears and grind it out. The section from 20-60 miles looks like it might cause time problems.
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I don't know that it's much encouragement, but I'll be there suffering along with you for all 18,000 feet. That ride is going to require an extra helping of HTFU for breakfast, and maybe bring along some extra to have a lunchtime.

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I found the words of encouragement in the route description:

"This route will take you close to three of Washington's volcanos, Mt. Rainier, Mt. St. Helen's, and Mt. Adams. It is a challenging route with lots of climbing and about 10 miles of unpaved roads. There are few to no services between controls and no cell phone service. Carry plenty of food and water."

I think all it's missing is "at the top of each climb, a lifesize cardboard standup of Bob Brudvik awaits you, yelling pre-recorded tauntings. Riders will be given a 5 minute penalty for yelling back at it."
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A new cassette, and some creative training. I'm thinking Glacier to Artist Point X 3 in a day should give me a good feel for the climbing.
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I don't think the listed amount of climbing on the profile is correct. 18,000 feet is way more than I'm reading in other people's ride reports. Everyone seems to list it closer to 12,000 feet.
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I participated in a 3 volcanos pre ride a few years ago and only one of us completed it. I wasn't that person. However, we wasted time checking for water sources, etc. I know excuses, excuses. The climbing isn't really killer steep but it is up for a long time. The hardest for me was the gravel. It was sometimes loose, deep and steep. Think bigger tires. I was glad to get off that section. It is an amazing ride and everyone loves the view that has essentially 3 long climbs versus repetitive rollers.
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Delorme over-estimates climbing. Of course, the 13k of climbing I cited above was determined by Delorme. I used to map out all the rides with Bikely, but it's gotten so slow as to be useless. It would often estimate the climbing at about half of Delorme. It was wrong too, the actual number was somewhere in-between.

Challenging rides can be fun. I actually have the most problems with long stretches of flat road.
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I don't know that it's much encouragement, but I'll be there suffering along with you for all 18,000 feet. That ride is going to require an extra helping of HTFU for breakfast, and maybe bring along some extra to have a lunchtime.

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I found the words of encouragement in the route description:

"This route will take you close to three of Washington's volcanos, Mt. Rainier, Mt. St. Helen's, and Mt. Adams. It is a challenging route with lots of climbing and about 10 miles of unpaved roads. There are few to no services between controls and no cell phone service. Carry plenty of food and water."

I think all it's missing is "at the top of each climb, a lifesize cardboard standup of Bob Brudvik awaits you, yelling pre-recorded tauntings. Riders will be given a 5 minute penalty for yelling back at it."
lol!

Is this one in July? Maybe I'll give it a shot.

The main keyword I remember hearing about this was 'views', but I guess the climbs earn you those views.
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I participated in a 3 volcanos pre ride a few years ago and only one of us completed it. I wasn't that person. However, we wasted time checking for water sources, etc. I know excuses, excuses. The climbing isn't really killer steep but it is up for a long time. The hardest for me was the gravel. It was sometimes loose, deep and steep. Think bigger tires. I was glad to get off that section. It is an amazing ride and everyone loves the view that has essentially 3 long climbs versus repetitive rollers.
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Yeah, the climbing isn't anything you'd compare to The Alplet, but those persistent long climbs just wear at you over the hours.

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Is this one in July? Maybe I'll give it a shot.

The main keyword I remember hearing about this was 'views', but I guess the climbs earn you those views.
I'm pretty sure it's in August. 08-07 is the 300k date on the SiR site.
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I haven't done the ride, but I've covered most of those roads on other rides or in a car. I'd have to agree that 18,000 ft seems way high. But even at 12,000 ft or whatever the real number is, it will be a tough ride. That section of gravel gets pretty steep at times, not Zoo Hill steep, but steep enough.

You can do it. Just take it slow but keep moving. Don't be afraid to use all 20 hours if you have to.
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DC Randonneurs has a 200K with over 11,000 feet of climbing ... to start the season. No volcanoes though.
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You can do it! No guts, no glory, right?

Did a 300km brevet a month ago with what seems to be 15,400ft of elevation gain according to one GPS receiver. Perhaps it might be closer to over ~14,000ft, considering the inaccuracies of the barometric altimeter. Your elevation profile seems steeper and climbs, longer. We didn't have any gravel, but the road shoulder had plenty of scalloping to keep you on your toes.

I am a newbie rando as well. A week before the ride I made sure I got enough sleep every night and topped up my tiny glycogen tank as much as possible. Never went hungry during the week, always had snacks between meals.

Remember, you got 20 hours to finish, so no need to rush. The last 50kms or so will probably be the hardest as pointed out earlier, since your legs may not have a whole lot left in them.

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