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Old 07-16-11, 02:12 PM   #1
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Adding another bike to the stable for randonnage + commutes - what should I consider?

I've owned a Scott Addict for the past 14 months and have done about 20 centuries on it, mostly solo self supported. I rode a doozy yesterday with no water or cell phone coverage between me and my destination, and realized I had severe limitations for bottle and tool storage on the bike.

The thing is, I'd like to go farther, and I'd like a bike that can accommodate gear without being a slug. My natural inclination is to look at the Long Haul Trucker, as I've been wanting a wet weather commuter/grocery getter anyways. However, others on the forum and I agree that the bike has less than ideal handling, and is a bit heavy.

What would you pick to ride 200+ miles or take to the grocery store in the rain? What factors are most important to you when choosing a long distance setup?
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Old 07-16-11, 02:57 PM   #2
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I would not ride the same bike for those two trips. If there are water supply issues on a route, I take more bottles. I have taken up to 5, three in jersey pockets.

I'm not a big proponent of bikes like the LHT for distance riding, but it will work. I wouldn't mind having something like the LHT for a commuter, but around here it's a little too nice and would be a theft magnet. I ride crummy but capable bikes on my commute.
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Old 07-17-11, 07:30 PM   #3
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I have a commuter. I've taken it on 100k, century, and 200k rides. I don't recommend it.

Don't get me wrong; I love the bike, but I'm going to get something else for club rides, charity rides, and randonneuring. At that point, my commuter will become a dedicated commuter/errand-runner.

edit: My commuter is actually fine for anything up to about 40-50 miles. Even 100k rides aren't real bad. Beyond that, the aluminium frame just starts making me hurt.

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Old 07-17-11, 08:45 PM   #4
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There's a ton of baggage options out there, even for an Addict. Topeak's new Mondo Packs come to mind.

Anyway... Pretty much anything will be slower than an Addict, but lots of bikes won't compromise too much ride quality. A Specialized Secteur might work, since it's a plush aluminum bike, price is reasonable (which is good for commuting), it's got rack mounts, it's got a more upright position, and it can take slightly wider tires.

If you want to get a little fancier, there's the Specialized Roubaix, Cannondale Synapse, Giant Defy, Jamis Enduro or Satellite.
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I have the large ortlieb seat bag, and the only time I've wished it was larger was on a spring ride when it's very cold in the morning and by afternoon I need to stow my jacket.
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I'd suggest a Camelbak for starters. They have varying amounts of backpack space in addition to the water compartment. And if a 100oz is not enough, they DO make some larger ones.

Also consider the bottle holders that go behind the seat if you can use them.
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Throw this https://www.revelatedesigns.com/inde...=1&ProductID=5 on your Addict and stuff a camelback bladder in it and run the drinking tube the handle bars and clip it with one of those janitor retractable key chain things attached to the bit valve so it doesn't flap around.
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Old 07-30-11, 01:12 PM   #8
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to blk...you're way advanced from where I'm at, but I am also looking to add another bike to my collection for similar function as you describe [I think, ha]. I've been bouncing back and forth between carbon, steel, and even titanium [aluminum is just to harsh for me I'm afraid]...and can't make up my mind exactly what 'kind' of riding I'm wanting to do [like you, extended rides, with good pack support, but not loaded down, that also can be used for commuting and errands to the grocery etc]. Theft I'm afraid, is always another consideration for a 'practical' function bike.

My plight is a matter of 'staleness' I think. Each time I buy another bike, my energy level spikes for a good six months or more.

Anyway, studying bikes shown in certain RUSA photo galleries, I find the classic steel 'look' interesting, with cool 'looking' (in a retro sort of way) [though I wonder about best function] French bags [Berthoud] and brown leather everywhere [brooks saddles, handlebar tape etc]. (I'm sure any hardcore randonneur is grimacing about now...'cool' factor not being top on the list of their priorities I'm sure, ). I've noticed a proclivity for handlebar bags and large seat bags is about it for randonneurs?? Is that accurate?

But these steel bikes have gained my interest...once again [surlys, rivendales, waterfords, novara's etc]. I have an old Miyata triplecross [steel], but the frame is 60cm and I'm only 5'11"...a bit big for me; but it does give a nice ride, though not as fast as, say, my CF specialized roubaix. I like fast.

Anyway, I'll keep knocking around on this and other forums until I can get better clarity on what I want to do. A project bike would be nice...but as we all know, not the cheapest way to go. Those steel frames scare me when I see 6 lbs or better [just programmed to think 'light weight' I'm afraid...though I understand how my miyata is more a cadillac ride than a ferrari]. Just for sake of argument [and I'm sure I'll be scolded, ], what steel frames are on the randonneur market-scope that are 'lightest' in weight?
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I've added a seat-post water bottle carrier to my Cyclocross bike. I can now carry 4 bottles. I'll also use a car to drop bottled water at a half-way point of a solo century. Stash it among some bushes.




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