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CanadianBiker32 07-30-12 11:32 AM

RAAM team anyone?
 
RAAM team anyone?

Anyone out there interested in putting together a team for RAAM for 2013?

Or any other major endurance event for cycling that needs a group of cyclists and support?

I like to get a group to discuss this idea and make up a plan and destination?

thanks, look forward to your replies, pm or reply to this forum

Homeyba 07-30-12 12:15 PM

You only have 10 posts so you won't be able to PM anyone back. What size team are you thinking of 2, 4, or 8? Have you done any ultra's previously? They are lots of fun but not as easy as one might think, especially 2 and 4 teams.

DGlenday 07-30-12 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeyba (Post 14545421)
What size team are you thinking of 2, 4, or 8? Have you done any ultra's previously?

And ... what will you want from each participant - in terms of logistical support and $$ ?

Homeyba can correct me here - but from what I've learned to date, RAAM is as much about organizing the logistics as it is about riding yer bike.

unterhausen 07-30-12 03:18 PM

he can respond with a visitor message on their profile. Or upgrade.

lhbernhardt 08-08-12 03:31 PM

Crewing is much harder than you can imagine. I think most successful teams are made up of members of the rider's immediate family. Otherwise, if you just get a bunch of strangers together, they'll be at each others' throats after the first week, if they last that long, even if they seem to be great friends at the start. The days are long and tedious, you're stuck together in close quarters, and you don't get much sleep, so you'll be snapping and gnarly. Stuff that others do will annoy you, but if you tell them, then they'll be annoyed with you. If you're paying your own way just to be part of the experience, you'll have no reason to stay once you've been ticked off too often. And if they're paying you to be there, it won't be enough for all the crap you have to put up with!

The stars have to be aligned pretty well before I would enter a RAAM! As a rider or as part of a crew!

Luis

Homeyba 08-08-12 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lhbernhardt (Post 14582380)
Crewing is much harder than you can imagine. I think most successful teams are made up of members of the rider's immediate family. Otherwise, if you just get a bunch of strangers together, they'll be at each others' throats after the first week, if they last that long, even if they seem to be great friends at the start. The days are long and tedious, you're stuck together in close quarters, and you don't get much sleep, so you'll be snapping and gnarly. Stuff that others do will annoy you, but if you tell them, then they'll be annoyed with you. If you're paying your own way just to be part of the experience, you'll have no reason to stay once you've been ticked off too often. And if they're paying you to be there, it won't be enough for all the crap you have to put up with!

The stars have to be aligned pretty well before I would enter a RAAM! As a rider or as part of a crew!

Luis

Actually, you have that backward. In most cases, it's worse to have family members crewing for you. Mainly because family members tend to have a very difficult time watching loved ones suffer and that can be very detrimental to the rider/s ability to complete the race. Family members can be great crew members but it's the exception not the rule. I've seen more family members get sent home in the middle of RAAM than "stranger" crew members. We've had great luck with"Craigs list" crew. In fact, some of our best crew over the years we got off of Craig's list. What's more important than the crew is the crew chief. A good crew chief is worth his weight in gold. With a good crew chief, there is no sleep deprivation with the crew and small issues between crew members do not become big issues. I won't say that it's all rainbows and unicorns but it doesn't have to be the way you are portraying it.

lhbernhardt 08-09-12 03:05 PM

Ah, OK, I will defer to real experience! Thanks. I was noting that there seemed to be lots of family involved with the recent RAAM winners.

I still stand by my assertion that things can get pretty strained, though. Crewing is not something to be taken lightly. But then my experience is mostly with stage race support for one to two weeks.

Luis

Homeyba 08-09-12 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lhbernhardt (Post 14586543)
Ah, OK, I will defer to real experience! Thanks. I was noting that there seemed to be lots of family involved with the recent RAAM winners.

I still stand by my assertion that things can get pretty strained, though. Crewing is not something to be taken lightly. But then my experience is mostly with stage race support for one to two weeks.

Luis

You are absolutely correct that things can get pretty strained with the crew on RAAM. Some of the stories about crew issues on RAAM are legendary! My point was that with a really good crew chief many of those issues don't get blown out of proportion. It's definitely something that shouldn't be taken lightly.

ChrisLP 01-23-13 07:26 PM

We may be looking for a team rider for 2013 RAAM. Male 46+.
4 man team
We are based out of NY/CT
If anyone is looking to join a team, please email me- chris112 at optonline dot net

c.miller64 01-26-13 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisLP (Post 15191252)
We may be looking for a team rider for 2013 RAAM. Male 46+.
4 man team

46+? That's not even a RAAM age group.

ChrisLP 01-28-13 06:03 AM

sorry cmiller, i meant to say that we were looking for a rider that was at least 46 years old.


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