Quick Ramp-up for 300K
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Quick Ramp-up for 300K
I did my first 200K last fall and loved it. I signed up for a 300K in May and I just realized it's March!!
I have been doing 3-4 days a week (1 hr ) on the rollers for the past few months. I feel confident that I could go do 100mi today but I am not sure about 300K. I need to ramp it up.
Should I just keep with the same I am doing but add in some long rides going from 4 hrs and adding an hour each week?
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I have been doing 3-4 days a week (1 hr ) on the rollers for the past few months. I feel confident that I could go do 100mi today but I am not sure about 300K. I need to ramp it up.
Should I just keep with the same I am doing but add in some long rides going from 4 hrs and adding an hour each week?
Thoughts?
Basicjim
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Well usually you're required to do a 200k the same season to 'qualify' for a 300. As with most things rando, though, the rules are applied fairly casually.
But, generally your performance on the qualifying 200 instructs you as to your condition.
But, generally your performance on the qualifying 200 instructs you as to your condition.
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What's that old training adage? Be able to do 60% or 70% of the total mileage?
If 70% is the case, I would think someone should be able to do 130 miles efficiently and comfortably before taking on a 300K. As Commodus noted, the 200K would have given you some conditioning to do that 300K.
To prepare for the brevet season, I've simply been getting my butt in the saddle as much as possible. I'm also doing a permanent to ramp up on conditioning. Do you have any permanents near by that you could do?
If 70% is the case, I would think someone should be able to do 130 miles efficiently and comfortably before taking on a 300K. As Commodus noted, the 200K would have given you some conditioning to do that 300K.
To prepare for the brevet season, I've simply been getting my butt in the saddle as much as possible. I'm also doing a permanent to ramp up on conditioning. Do you have any permanents near by that you could do?
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What's that old training adage? Be able to do 60% or 70% of the total mileage?
If 70% is the case, I would think someone should be able to do 130 miles efficiently and comfortably before taking on a 300K. As Commodus noted, the 200K would have given you some conditioning to do that 300K.
To prepare for the brevet season, I've simply been getting my butt in the saddle as much as possible. I'm also doing a permanent to ramp up on conditioning. Do you have any permanents near by that you could do?
If 70% is the case, I would think someone should be able to do 130 miles efficiently and comfortably before taking on a 300K. As Commodus noted, the 200K would have given you some conditioning to do that 300K.
To prepare for the brevet season, I've simply been getting my butt in the saddle as much as possible. I'm also doing a permanent to ramp up on conditioning. Do you have any permanents near by that you could do?
I did the last 200K of the fall and was very comfortable. I finished in just over 9 hours. I know that is not an indicator of my current level of fitness, though.
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don't recall seeing this requirement. I would think that most RBA's would want to have a certain amount of confidence that people are going to be able to complete the event
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6. For rides over 200 km, a rider must qualify at a shorter distance before attempting the next longer ride. A rider who has completed a distance in a previous season may advance to the next one in the current season without doing the shorter qualifier(s). (Exceptions may be made to this rule, but only with the prior approval of the ride organizer and the regional route coordinator.)
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if it was my ride and I had no idea if a person would finish, I would ask them what they will do if they can't. If the answer is "call you," I might suggest working up to the longer distance.
I am pretty sure these things are up to the organizer and not a hard and fast rule. I have heard of cases where people have been allowed to ride 1200k's without a qualifying series. Don't try this with PBP
I am pretty sure these things are up to the organizer and not a hard and fast rule. I have heard of cases where people have been allowed to ride 1200k's without a qualifying series. Don't try this with PBP
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if it was my ride and I had no idea if a person would finish, I would ask them what they will do if they can't. If the answer is "call you," I might suggest working up to the longer distance.
I am pretty sure these things are up to the organizer and not a hard and fast rule. I have heard of cases where people have been allowed to ride 1200k's without a qualifying series. Don't try this with PBP
I am pretty sure these things are up to the organizer and not a hard and fast rule. I have heard of cases where people have been allowed to ride 1200k's without a qualifying series. Don't try this with PBP
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Must be either specific to Canada, or less respected by paid organized events than by self-organizing randos. I registered for two different organized double centuries ran by two different organizations in CA and no one asked me about ride experience in either case.
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Years ago, I believe that the CO Last Chance was a RAAM qualifier. I'm pretty certain that there were several who completed it w/o having ridden an official full brevet series previously.
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BasicJim, just go ride a bunch. If you live where it's hilly, go ride hills.
The big question is not so much "can it be done" but "can it be done in a reasonable time while enjoying the experience". The more you're able to get out and ride, the easier it'll be.
The big question is not so much "can it be done" but "can it be done in a reasonable time while enjoying the experience". The more you're able to get out and ride, the easier it'll be.
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as far as the original question goes, I find the difference between being able to go 100 miles and 300k is eating. As long as I eat I do fine. I have also been known to ride too hard sometimes, but that generally doesn't stop me from finishing. The only problem for me is cramping, when I'm not in good enough shape I cramp a lot. For me, enduralites fix that problem pretty well
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99% of support at double centuries occurs at checkpoints, same as with brevets. But yes, technically there is additional roving support that is not available at brevets.
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support at checkpoints is the exception rather than the rule on brevets. Usually offered only if there is some good reason for it.
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Define "support". Support as in "getting more food and water" occurs at checkpoints on brevets all the time, the only fundamental difference is that, on a brevet, you pay for it as you go, on a century, you pre-pay for the whole thing.
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