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Old 04-18-13, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
if it cost $9000 to do a permanent, then it would be really exclusive. Can you imagine the brevet card?
For $9000 I'd expect a brevet card made of gold and with the lettering made up of tiny implanted diamonds or something.
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Originally Posted by Bekologist
I'm absolutely unconcerned about riders' resupply. these rides are not that big a deal 100 and 200k rides are just day rides. What i am inclined to shoot for are more informational controls versus receipts, except perhaps at start/finish and maybe the end of an out and back, stuffing a couple of informational controls in the mix. There's not a lot of stores up here. And a lot of great historical markers, etc. that could form the basis for several themed permanents.
Sounds nice. Two thoughts, however: 1 - more people will ride them if there are a couple known places on the route to get food and water, at least water if not food. They don't have to be controles, just places either on the route, or fairly close to the route (say, within a mile or so). While it is possible to load up a bike for a 125 mile ride with no food or water stops, it's nice to at least not have to lug that much water from the start.

2 - If there is any part of the route that goes more than about 40 miles without any opportunities for getting food and water, you probably should note that somewhere / somehow so people forewarned. I say 40 miles just because most people will need 3 hours to go that distance, and in hot weather that means at least 3 bottles. And not everyone has the ability to carry more than three bottles on their bike.

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Originally Posted by Steamer
Sounds nice. Two thoughts, however: 1 - more people will ride them if there are a couple known places on the route to get food and water, at least water if not food. They don't have to be controles, just places either on the route, or fairly close to the route (say, within a mile or so). While it is possible to load up a bike for a 125 mile ride with no food or water stops, it's nice to at least not have to lug that much water from the start.

2 - If there is any part of the route that goes more than about 40 miles without any opportunities for getting food and water, you probably should note that somewhere / somehow so people forewarned. I say 40 miles just because most people will need 3 hours to go that distance, and in hot weather that means at least 3 bottles. And not everyone has the ability to carry more than three bottles on their bike.
thanks, i will denote water fill-ups and available food, just not necessarily include the stops as a control.
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