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    Quote Originally Posted by starjag View Post
    I've taken this route already. Most of the options that I've seen have relatively high bottom brackets. That's why I'm looking elsewhere.



    Funky looking bike. Do we have reviews/reports from BF endurance riders?
    Volagi bikes are a common sight in SF Bay area double centuries and brevets, and the two Volagi co-founders frequently ride these as well. We recently had a very tough mixed terrain 200K, 3 of the 11 finishers (including one of the Volagi co-founders) were riding Viaje's.

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    The Jamis Quest should clear 28s with fenders and is fairly light, though it does have a carbon fork. I've been trying to find out if it'll still be around for 2014; I read that Jamis is bringing all their steel roadies under the Quest name and I'm hoping they don't bring down the high end with this change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjag View Post
    I've taken this route already. Most of the options that I've seen have relatively high bottom brackets. That's why I'm looking elsewhere.

    Funky looking bike. Do we have reviews/reports from BF endurance riders?
    Bicycle Quarterly (Jan Heine, multiple PBP finisher) recently did a review of two Volagi models.

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    Soma's and Surly's were mentioned upthread. I have a Soma ES which is their road-sport frame. My size 60cm frame weighs 2109 grams (4.65 lb). The IRD Mosaic 57 carbon fork which is often sold with the ES weighs 536 gr (1.18 lb). Together they retail for $650 but can be purchased online for significantly less. I built my ES up with a mix of old, new, and NOS parts including a fairly light wheelset and, as equipped below with Honjos, weighs 20.25 lbs. Tire clearance is 28mm w/fenders, 32mm without. I'm in for much, much less than the OP's budgeted $2500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pexio View Post
    Soma's and Surly's were mentioned upthread. I have a Soma ES which is their road-sport frame. My size 60cm frame weighs 2109 grams (4.65 lb). The IRD Mosaic 57 carbon fork which is often sold with the ES weighs 536 gr (1.18 lb). Together they retail for $650 but can be purchased online for significantly less. I built my ES up with a mix of old, new, and NOS parts including a fairly light wheelset and, as equipped below with Honjos, weighs 20.25 lbs. Tire clearance is 28mm w/fenders, 32mm without. I'm in for much, much less than the OP's budgeted $2500.
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    How about this 'off-the-rack' Tricross from Specialized.

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...sctriple#specs

    Tiagra components instead of 105. 'External' 68mm bottom bracket (Hollowtech or ?), disc brakes, comes with 32mm tires so should be able to take 28's, and rack & fender mounts. This is the end of the 2013 model year, so you may have to call round and see if ny are still available, or wait for the 2014's to come out and hope this model is still around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pexio View Post
    Soma's and Surly's were mentioned upthread. I have a Soma ES which is their road-sport frame. My size 60cm frame weighs 2109 grams (4.65 lb). The IRD Mosaic 57 carbon fork which is often sold with the ES weighs 536 gr (1.18 lb). Together they retail for $650 but can be purchased online for significantly less. I built my ES up with a mix of old, new, and NOS parts including a fairly light wheelset and, as equipped below with Honjos, weighs 20.25 lbs. Tire clearance is 28mm w/fenders, 32mm without. I'm in for much, much less than the OP's budgeted $2500.
    I love mine. I even choose it for shorter rides as well over my Orbea. It's just such a comfortable and versatile bike.

    Mine is a touch heavier at 24 lbs but I've got heavier wheels (Mavic Open Pro) and a rack. I run size 32 Grand Bois Cypres tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pexio View Post
    Soma's and Surly's were mentioned upthread. I have a Soma ES which is their road-sport frame. My size 60cm frame weighs 2109 grams (4.65 lb). The IRD Mosaic 57 carbon fork which is often sold with the ES weighs 536 gr (1.18 lb). Together they retail for $650 but can be purchased online for significantly less. I built my ES up with a mix of old, new, and NOS parts including a fairly light wheelset and, as equipped below with Honjos, weighs 20.25 lbs. Tire clearance is 28mm w/fenders, 32mm without. I'm in for much, much less than the OP's budgeted $2500.

    Very, very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjag View Post
    If the full package is not there, what would be the ideal mass production frame to start with?
    Another vote for Soma. Mine is the lugged frame Stanyan model.
    Pic is pre-mudguard fitting, 28's w/ no problem.
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    These are not in stock yet, but I'm looking at using my employee discount on one of these (pending a test ride of course). GT Corsa Disc - (some) 105 components, steel frame, carbon fork, disc brakes, large tire clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyserSoze81 View Post
    These are not in stock yet, but I'm looking at using my employee discount on one of these (pending a test ride of course). GT Corsa Disc - (some) 105 components, steel frame, carbon fork, disc brakes, large tire clearance.

    Looks great! Likely won't be a hit with the proper CX crowd... cable routing under the top tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjag View Post
    Looks great! Likely won't be a hit with the proper CX crowd... cable routing under the top tube?
    Or for the commuting crowd for that matter - No seat stay rack mounts or front fender eyelets. That bike is the dumb blond of the bike world - a cheap date, pretty, and fun to ride, but otherwise useless.

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    There have been some recommendations for the SOMA ES. I the lugged version that I am building up as a light (compared to a Bruce Gordon R&R) touring bike.
    You can see it at http://indianbendsolutions.com/stany...namo-lumxos-u/ with component listings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowAndSlower View Post
    There have been some recommendations for the SOMA ES. I the lugged version that I am building up as a light (compared to a Bruce Gordon R&R) touring bike.
    Well done.
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    For a steel road bike, Soma offers a number of different models at attractive prices. Plus they're nice bikes. I love my Soma Double Cross. It has been my main go to bike for ten years.

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    If I were going to buy a steel frame that's not a boat anchor I'd look at something like a Pegoretti Love #3 . You can easily build one of these up under 15lbs. For randoneuring under 18lbs would be a piece of cake. That's what my Colnago weighs.
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    How much does a boat anchor weigh?

    If you asked your question in the C&V you'd get lots of suggestions. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    If you asked your question in the C&V you'd get lots of suggestions. Just saying.
    ... but where did you find this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjag View Post
    ... but where did you find this thread?
    Well, uh, duh, let me think. It wasn't the roadies. No, that's not it.

    I just mentioned C&V because of the OP's stated desire for steel. Good, lightweight steel bike of all sorts are the bread&butter of the C&V. Not necessarily expensive either.

    But the boat-anchor constraint could be an issue. My Masi is 23lbs ready-to-ride, not with necessary items like pedals removed. Is that a boat anchor? Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    How much does a boat anchor weigh?
    The OP indicated he's looking for 22 pounds or less.

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    I don't think there is any need to go with a 20+year old bike, unless that's what you are looking for, when you can get a very light modern steel bike. There is lots of good stuff out there. As far as what's a boat anchor goes, anything over 18-19lbs for a long distance bike is getting porky in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeyba View Post
    As far as what's a boat anchor goes, anything over 18-19lbs is getting porky in my book.
    I'm not being argumentative, just thinking outside the conventional box. So 18-19lbs as measured how? Catalog specs are usually listed without pedals, for smaller frame sizes, without any bags, and probably without bottles. In practice a ready-to-ride bike listed at 19lbs could be over 20lbs or even 21. But saving weight in the frame can go only so far.
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    When you are talking bikes you are correct that you are really talking a "package" in which the frame is just a piece of the puzzle. The Pegoretti Love #3 that I mentioned earlier is a steel bike that can have a ready to ride weight of less than 15 lbs (including pedals). My friends bike that he used for RAAM this year was right at 15lbs. My bike was less than 25lbs fully loaded (including water bottles) at the start of the last 1200k I did. Long distance bikes can be quite light.

    What it comes down to is what you, as the rider, are willing or wanting to do with your ride. Some people would be very uncomfortable starting brevet on a sub 15lb bike. For me, I want to carry as little extra weight as possible while retaining reliability. Therefore my long distance bike is a few lbs more because I'm using slightly more robust components. Either way, I'd consider a 20+lb bike porky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeyba View Post
    I don't think there is any need to go with a 20+year old bike, unless that's what you are looking for, when you can get a very light modern steel bike. There is lots of good stuff out there.
    True, but the problem is that the OP wants a light steel bike that can take 28c's and fenders, and is not a cross bike. Many of the bikes like that tend to be heavy (e.g. Surly Pacer, All City Space Horse), or not steel (Specialized Secteur) or are cross bikes.

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