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Old 09-15-13, 12:26 PM   #1
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Ultracycling training vs usual crit/rr type training? ( And Welcomes! =) )

Hi guys! I am 17, 67 inches and 130lbs. I have been road cycling for about one and a half years. I started to seriously start cycling training April 2013. I began with long rides of only 30-40 miles (80-100mpw) and peaked in June (when there was no school!) at 320 miles in one week. Now I am comfortably holding about 200-230mpw of riding with high school back in session. About every 2-3 weeks, beginning in August when I road my first 100 miler, I do centuries. I did my 3rd yesterday and felt pretty good with it. It isn't the distance that is hard anymore, it is fighting through my thoughts, as I bet many of you understand and can relate to

I typically am doing something along the lines of this for my training. I bet this is pretty mediocre miles per week and everything but I am just starting and trying to get as much time in as I can riding when school is here M-F!

Monday: 1.5-2 hr fast ride (about 35-40 miles)
Tuesday: Hill repeats (30 miles total, atleast 2500-3000ft of elevation)
Wednesday: Mid week mid-distance ride (40-50 miles)
Thursday: Commute to school, 8mi there, 12mi home, easy
Friday: Easy 20 mile spin
Saturday: Atleast 80 miles, usually 100 miles
Sunday: Recovery ride 30-45min

This is how I was riding in the summer too, just more volume. I am curious as to how I should focus on ultracycling training. None of my buddies really ride, let alone ultracycling, and everywhere I search online doesnt really lay out typical workouts to do and what a typical week should look like. I am guessing I should really focus on increasing my long rides and focusing on endurance, but how?

next year I'd like to race some 120 milers, and maybe a 200 later in the year

With winter coming, it will be trainer time, and I probably will lose fitness when not riding as much, correct? none of you do 6 hour rides on the trainer during the winter do you? do you use winter as an "easy spinning" time to recoperate your mind and lay of mileage? Our winters here get really cold and snowy so no riding outside on main streets and such! I am worried that my endurance will go down the shoot during winter if I dont keep up 6hr long rides, am I wrong? is it easy to get back if I dont do 100milers in the winter? Also, what about recovery?

Also, how often do you guys ride centuries? looking around this forum and on the internet and it seems that one a month is a good challenge, but that seems really easy. I even think doing 2 a month is quite easy, at least for me...

Thanks! Hope to hear from you all!

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If you haven't done so, go to the Road Racing section and read through the stickies there. Lots of good information.

How I "train" is that I just ride. More specifically, I go ride randonnneuring rides (usually 200k) every Saturday, and ride 20-25 miles 3 or 4 times during the week. The randonneuring rides are not especially fast. But, I'm not training for anything else, either, I'm just riding and having fun. I could be in better shape, I've been trying to lose weight for a couple of years and have been gaining it instead.

So how often I ride Centuries is about once a week. However, a lot of road riders, when they visualize a century, are thinking about hammering it out in a paceline at 20 mph, and that's not how it happens. Those 200k's usually take 9-10 hours, with about 3 intermediate stops. That's riding a tandem, usually with other people in a group, on semi-hilly but not mountainous roads in North Texas. Riding like this depends about as much on your free time as it does your fitness. Some of the randonneurs are also ultraracers and are fast, some are not, it's pretty variable. If you haven't ridden with a randonneuring club, be aware that it tends to skew towards guys my age (52), and you won't find many 17-year-olds doing it. Which is not a problem either way, but if you're looking for buddies to ride with, it helps if they're your age, not your parents' age.
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If you haven't done so, go to the Road Racing section and read through the stickies there. Lots of good information.

How I "train" is that I just ride. More specifically, I go ride randonnneuring rides (usually 200k) every Saturday, and ride 20-25 miles 3 or 4 times during the week. The randonneuring rides are not especially fast. But, I'm not training for anything else, either, I'm just riding and having fun. I could be in better shape, I've been trying to lose weight for a couple of years and have been gaining it instead.

So how often I ride Centuries is about once a week. However, a lot of road riders, when they visualize a century, are thinking about hammering it out in a paceline at 20 mph, and that's not how it happens. Those 200k's usually take 9-10 hours, with about 3 intermediate stops. That's riding a tandem, usually with other people in a group, on semi-hilly but not mountainous roads in North Texas. Riding like this depends about as much on your free time as it does your fitness. Some of the randonneurs are also ultraracers and are fast, some are not, it's pretty variable. If you haven't ridden with a randonneuring club, be aware that it tends to skew towards guys my age (52), and you won't find many 17-year-olds doing it. Which is not a problem either way, but if you're looking for buddies to ride with, it helps if they're your age, not your parents' age.
ha, yeah, none of my friends cycle besides one, and he is a criterium guy Ultracycling sounds really badass and I'd like to start for sure. As long as those middle aged guys are cool with a 17 year old riding with them I am down to train with them lol I bet it is cool seeing a youngster more than half of their age training for ultras

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