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    serious "man pain" near the end of a long ride (may be tmi)

    This Sunday I took a long-for-me (88mi) trip along the I&M canal in Illinois. I was exhausted by the end, but probably could have pressed on farther if it weren't for strong testicular pain I was having for the last 10 or so miles. It was only on the right side, but it seemed to just creep in gradually.

    The I&M is gets really rough and gravelly for the last 50 miles or so I was on it. I'm wondering if maybe it was just a long period of repeated stress that caused the pain to develop, or maybe in my tiredness I started sitting on it, or cutting off circulation over time, or who knows. All I know is I want to keep doing long rides and I never want it to happen again!

    anyone else have experience in this matter?
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    I ride on rough roads all the time and don't have any such issues. I think you need to figure out your fit a little better. Numbness is much more common than pain.

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    Not to get too much detail, but was the pain numb/tingling from blood flow problems or more like you got hit in the nuts lightly a bunch of times with a small hammer? Both can be fit problems, I also know I find just remembering to stand up right after I drink water every 20-30 mins and let everything "breathe" can make a night and day difference...

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    pain numb/tingling from blood flow problems or more like you got hit in the nuts lightly a bunch of times with a small hammer? Both can be fit problems, I also know I find just remembering to stand up right after I drink

    Wow- "hit in the nuts-LIGHTLY- a bunch of times with a SMAll HAMMER?" Classic-

    I just read this too my wife-we both split a gut laughing.
    You are ALL CRAZY-certifiable! ...Most folks would be put off 88 mile rides.....but I understand it....
    On a more serious note-your perineum wasn't designed to be weight bearing
    You are crushing compressing nerves arteries veins and the tube that passes urine-
    possible the artery that supplies your testicle was "kinked twisted" a bit(slightly different from just compression-more positioning and too much time in that position) take knaus's advice-give the "guys" a breather-reposition unkink

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    I used to have more trouble with my perineum when I was out of shape, and the problems would have fairly early onset in my rides. Of course, different people are put together differently.

    As far as the crotch getting hammered, that does happen on a lot of the gravel roads around here because our terrain is pretty rocky. Those blows don't seem to have much more than a very short-term effect on me though.

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    Are you wearing cycling specific shorts?
    If not, inadequate support could be the cause of your ills.

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    I am wearing cycling shorts, but you're all probably right about the fit issue. Seems like 90% of the time, it's a fit issue It was definitely more of the precisely-placed-mallet type of pain, not numbness. I've never been able to get the tilt of my seat quite right.......
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    I'd go see someone who can help you with your fit. The onyl time I've heard of something similar to what you are describing is a guy who had his seat way to high and was rocking back and forth across it. You also might want to ask your Dr. Sometimes sensitivity in that area can be caused by health issues.
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    Sorry if this sounds insentitive, but I have to be pretty precise where my 'baggage' is located in my shorts when I ride. Sometimes I have to pull it forward, sometimes backwards. I am not comfortable hoping they are in the right position. I reach right in and make sure they are in the right place. Something to consider...

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    I had a similar pain a few weeks ago when my body shifted sharply to the left as I avoided a darting squirrel. I think I sort of smashed the sensitive orb between my thigh and the seat. Fortunately, I was only a couple miles from home at the time. I rode gingerly.

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    I tend to have a problem with going numb, if this is a fitting problem - I assume it's with the saddle - how should I change it?

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    pain numb/tingling from blood flow problems or more like you got hit in the nuts lightly a bunch of times with a small hammer?
    Geez. The things you guys put up with. Hats off to 'ya.

    I just avoid the whole issue:

    Last edited by delcrossv; 10-05-13 at 02:16 PM.
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    Try lowering the pressure in your tires by 10 lbs. Some tires can go 20 lbs. low. My Continentals have a maximum of 120 lbs. They say 20% low is OK. That is 96 lbs. That's usually what I run. It makes a big difference in the feel of the seat. I can ride 100 miles on 70 lbs. with no problems I've done 60 lbs. 23 mm tires, I don't hit things. In some situations 5 lbs can make a difference. Some riders need the high pressure to prevent pinch flats when Hitting things. I'm also only 140 lbs. That helps too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarbot View Post
    I tend to have a problem with going numb, if this is a fitting problem - I assume it's with the saddle - how should I change it?
    Excess pressure in the perineal area - there are nerves and blood vessels there that can become compressed. You need a saddle or a fitting that relieves this pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delcrossv View Post
    Geez. The things you guys put up with. Hats off to 'ya.

    I just avoid the whole issue:

    Fran - since I know your aren't a troll, I will just simply point out that this kind of advice is considered completely OT on this forum.

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    Sit offset-so you are sitting on one thigh then the other when that happens.
    I tilt my seat nose waaaay down
    have a gigantic soft seat
    and it has a cut out
    But sometimes I sit offset-so I'm literally sitting on my thigh instead of my perineum
    Granted you have to slightly lower your seat post-and your "stroke" will be a bit lopsided
    but it beats "damage" and pain to a delicate area.
    Don't put weight on your perineum-asking from problems-
    granted you are faster sitting that way... but...

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    Just consider that very slight tilt adjustments can make all the difference depending on your saddle and often you can't feel the change until you are on the saddle for quite a while v

    A nearly imperceptible change will matter in time. I kept making immediately noticeable changes and was ping-ponging between extremes of nose up pressure and sliding off the saddle. My seat height was too high for one, then I finally got the saddle tilt worked out. Now I have no trouble and ride a pretty plank like Phenom saddle.

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    Use a Fizik Aliante, and I'm happier when it is just a little nose-down. Also keeps me from scooting back so much, which is a weakness I have. Can't really remember the last time I had numbness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
    Fran - since I know your aren't a troll, I will just simply point out that this kind of advice is considered completely OT on this forum.
    Fair 'nuf. Just couldn't resist after the tapped on the nuts with a hammer comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
    Fran - since I know your aren't a troll, I will just simply point out that this kind of advice is considered completely OT on this forum.
    Are you referring specifically to the long distance sub-forum, or BikeForums in general? Also, can you elaborate why recommending someone try a recumbent is off topic when someone asks about a problem that a recumbent will solve?
    There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chandltp View Post
    Are you referring specifically to the long distance sub-forum, or BikeForums in general? Also, can you elaborate why recommending someone try a recumbent is off topic when someone asks about a problem that a recumbent will solve?
    I was referring to this sub-forum.

    I personally don't think it is off topic, but I know that, in the opinion of the vast majority of people who read this sub forum, it is basically considered an absurd suggestion / non-option, and therefore is essentially OT. Once I suggested that it was a viable aternative for addressing comfort issues, and I was informed of the error of my ways.

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    Found these to be the perfect saddle for me.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIZIK-ALIANT...item2a32a6a625
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
    I was referring to this sub-forum.

    I personally don't think it is off topic, but I know that, in the opinion of the vast majority of people who read this sub forum, it is basically considered an absurd suggestion / non-option, and therefore is essentially OT. Once I suggested that it was a viable aternative for addressing comfort issues, and I was informed of the error of my ways.
    Well, I'm a "live and let live" kinda guy, so, whatever works for 'ya. RUSA takes this line, who am I to disagree?
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    I think that people just starting riding at an advanced age should take the possibility of going with a 'bent seriously. If it meant the difference between not riding and riding, I would definitely choose a 'bent without hesitation. However, I don't think suggesting a 'bent to people that have asked for help in this thread is particularly helpful. From what I have seen in this sort of discussion, the 'bent riders tend to emphasize the negatives of DF riding and minimize the problems with riding a 'bent under the same conditions. Steamer is one of the few 'bent riders that rides under road conditions as described by the OP because a 'bent doesn't really solve a lot of those issues. If your crotch is going to be hammered on a DF, you can almost always stand and avoid most of the blow. On a 'bent, you get hammered every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsqueak View Post
    Just consider that very slight tilt adjustments can make all the difference depending on your saddle and often you can't feel the change until you are on the saddle for quite a while v

    A nearly imperceptible change will matter in time. I kept making immediately noticeable changes and was ping-ponging between extremes of nose up pressure and sliding off the saddle. My seat height was too high for one, then I finally got the saddle tilt worked out. Now I have no trouble and ride a pretty plank like Phenom saddle.
    I need to do this. In the other saddle thread I've been playing with angle on leather saddles using single-bolt seat posts, but I know I can make much finer adjustments with two-bolt micro-adjusting types like vintage Campy, Thompson set-back, and vintage American Classic. That's my next move - ditch the single-bolt posts!

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