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Old 10-06-13, 02:59 PM   #1
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Front Rando Bag Suggestions

I'm wondering if you all out there can suggest a front Rando bag that has removable shoulder strap and can be used without a decaleur. In particular, I'm interested in finding a bag that would rest on a front rando rack but could be quickly removed for when I commute to work and need to bring the bag inside.

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Old 10-06-13, 03:26 PM   #2
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I'm wondering if you all out there can suggest a front Rando bag that has removable shoulder strap and can be used without a decaleur. In particular, I'm interested in finding a bag that would rest on a front rando rack but could be quickly removed for when I commute to work and need to bring the bag inside.
If you could get the mounting to work, an Ortlieb Ultimate 5 L Plus might work. It's designed to mount without a rack underneath, but when mine is fully loaded I sometimes wish I had a rack! You can use KlickFix mounting adapters with the Ortlieb, so it should be possible to work something out. I've used mine on tour in Ireland, Scotland, and the Netherlands, and have found it to be completely waterproof.
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IF you can get one, the Acorn Rando Bag might be what you're looking for.
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+1 one for the Acorn Bag. I've got one of the early Boxy Rando Bags. Great product. I've used it on tours and it carries my clothes, blow dryer, deodorant, wallet, food, keys, towel on my commutes. I use it now with only a Nitto Mark's Rack but have used it with a decaleur in the past. The rack is all that's needed.

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I'm pretty happy with my V-O Champagne bag. I did a couple of mods to make it more rigid, and mounted it to a V-O Pass Hunter rack with integrated decaleur. Easy on-off and easy access to stuff while riding and "only" $100.
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I've looked at the Acorn Bag and it looks nice. Is it really only the cinch cords, which connect to the drops that keep it stable without a decaleur? If so, then wouldn't any bag work with the same type of securing mechanism? I think this bag is sweet - The Swift Industries Ozette Rando Bag http://builtbyswift.com/
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I've looked at the Acorn Bag and it looks nice. Is it really only the cinch cords, which connect to the drops that keep it stable without a decaleur? If so, then wouldn't any bag work with the same type of securing mechanism? I think this bag is sweet - The Swift Industries Ozette Rando Bag http://builtbyswift.com/
The Acorn handlebar bags that are secured with cords to the drops work that way because the bag is fairly small and essentially hangs from the wooden dowel inside, which is as much internal structure as it needs in that configuration. The box shaped bags that rest on front racks, such as the Swift Industries Ozette, the Acorn boxy rando bag, and for that matter, the Berthoud ones, require a decaleur because they have stiffeners that go around only the bottom and the sides, so they need to be supported at the top to keep them from "sloshing" or swaying back and forth. I have made some custom front rando bags that had stiffeners on all sides, and an angled back to match the angle of the "tombstone" on the back of the Nitto rack, so that a decaleur wasn't necessary even with quite a large bag.

Depending on the dimensions of your front end, if you are clever and like to tinker, you may very well be able to rig up cords to your bars or to your levers to serve the same purpose without an additional decaleur, and in a way that makes it quicker to take the bag off and take it with you. You could also try adding a piece of coroplast or other plastic sheet to the front and back to make it more like a rigid box. If none of that works to your satisfaction, you can always add a decaleur later if you have to.

If you will pardon my commercial interest you can also look at the Dill Pickle Gear handlebar bag (full disclosure - it's my company, so I'm biased). It is smaller than the Acorn boxy bag or the Ozette, but it does not require a rack or a decaleur (mounts to the handlebars and levers, with additional stabilizing straps around the fork legs). The drawback is that it is more difficult to take off and carry around with you, since the shape is such that there isn't a good balance point to hang a shoulder strap. But it does stay out of the way of your hands so you can still wrap your fingers all the way around the bars at the tops, it's easy to access while riding, and it's much lighter than a boxy bag plus rack plus decaleur. http://www.dillpicklegear.com/?page_id=1016
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Coluber,

Thank you for the informative post. I've never used a front rando bag before and now I have a better understanding of their design. I like the idea of not having to use a decaleur because I don't want a lot of extra clutter attached to my bike when I'm not riding with my bag. Plus, I've heard that it can be tricky to find the right decaleur/bag/rack combination that results in a nice fit. I like the idea of modifying a rando bag to make it more stiff internally and also using cords to secure it to the handle bars. I looked at your website and liked your products, especially boxy rando bag with the sloping back - great idea!

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My Acorn bag does not have a wooden dowel inside (unlike the Carradice Nelson). I personally never use the little cords that connect to the drops. I use the four straps on the bottom to connect the bag to my Nitto Mark's Rack (from Rivendell). I also slip the little U shaped portion of the rack through a leather strap on the bag. This is all pretty quick to attached and remote. It would be a bit of a pain if I were to do it multiple times a day but is not an issue for me at the start and end of my commute.

In the past I used a decaleur from VO but now find no need. Maybe if you found attaching the bag via the bottom straps a pain the decaleur could provide a measure of convenience but it is not needed.
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I have a vague memory that Peter Weigle got people started bolting their front bags to the rack, but I can't find it on his flickr account
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