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    7" of snow today wiped out tomorrow's first race of the season. I was going to race the Cat3/4 race on the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course which is a venue suited to my strengths. Oh well, it will be rescheduled and I hope that I can make the race. The next scheduled race next week has a 350'+ one mile climb that is done 4 times during the 40 mile race. I have promised myself never, ever again to do the race the last 2 times I raced it and hope to find a diversion to that race.
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    I went to Mid Ohio to watch sports car racing back in the early 70s. It is a fabulous venue. 4x350x1mile climbs in a road race is just wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    I went to Mid Ohio to watch sports car racing back in the early 70s. It is a fabulous venue. 4x350x1mile climbs in a road race is just wrong.
    The Malibar Farms race finishes up just near the top of the climb. There are usually no group sprints to the finish in any of the cats. Just beaten guys finishing up.
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    This year I am passing on road races and focusing on shorter TTs and track. I did a very hard road race last year and it was okay but not that much fun. The ones with a lot of difficult hills on multiple laps are designed for the really skinny climbers. I worked out at LA Velodrome yesterday and did really well. I am going to stay focused on the shorter events.
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    I'm still figuring out which races are best/most fun for me. I really don't think I'm cut out for the TT stuff, but haven't tried it yet. I'd like to try a stage race at some point though, so...

    April 2nd is the Tour de Mesa, and I'm treating it as a full blown road race, as many in Arizona do. For some people I know, it is the big race of the year. I know the climbs are what will determine my finish. Doh. There are three climbs. The first is a long uphill drag leaving the city, climbing 500' over about 6 miles. Then there are two passes: one getting into Saguaro Lake, and one getting back out. Getting in it's 722' over 7.6 miles (1.7%). Getting back out it's 650' over 4 miles (3%). Total distance is 72 miles. I need a fast group on the flats and downhills if I'm going to achieve my goal of becoming 'platinum', by finishing in 3:05 (23.35mph). It's a longshot, because sticking with the fast guys when the climbing starts will be... well... let's just say a "major challenge" for me. And if I don't, their wheels will no longer be there for me to suck on. I'm doing a pre-ride tomorrow, since I have never ridden the course. There was a group pre-ride this morning, but I was occupied doing my volunteer thing. I need to devise a strategy with Coach: Do I put everything I have into the climbs, pushing until my eyes bleed or I pass out? Or do I set a HR limit to try and preserve something? I'm leaning towards the former. If I have to limp to the finish, so be it. At least I'll know I gave it my all.

    Two weeks later is much flatter ride put on by the same people. In between the two, I'll be at the New Orleans French Quarter Festival: music, food, and drink; a real rest week, LOL.

    Last Wed I raced the C division crit (up from D), and was dropped. I just didn't have the power to stay with the group out of the corners on the twisty course they set. That race was the end of really bad week. I had been totally 'off'. Feeling lousy, and no power nor endurance. I've been really messing up my nutrition, and also not sleeping well. My intensity has picked up, and it has become clear I need more fuel. Last couple of days I've 'eaten like a pig', at least by my recent standards, and I've felt stronger again. Today I was ride marshall for the Tour de Cure; 34 mile route. I shepherded the lead riders, drifting back and forward (a few were maybe a half mile ahead of the others), making sure everyone had what they needed and was staying hydrated, as it has started to warm up here. About 20 miles in, the lead group from the longer metric route came by. I noticed they didn't have a ride marshall with them, so I felt totally obligated to join the train. :-) They ended up needing some encouragement to let a few cars get past, so I did my job, and got to enjoy a fast blast to the finish. Fun ride, and I was strong throughout. Not enough distance to really test me, but it was on top of hill repeats yesterday, and well, you know when you are feeling strong and when you're not. For a week it had been: Not! Now I feel normal again. Thankfully so, as I was getting a wee bit discouraged!

    Our sport can be truly humbling. There is no place to hide when you are dropped, and there are no valid excuses. You get dropped, you watch the pack ride away, and all you can do is eat your humble pie and work hard so it won't happen again. At least with the crits, there is another race soon, and a chance for redemption.

    Actually, I guess there are some excuses! Wheel Sucking with Neil: Excuses
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    I am wrapping up a week of a working vacation in Newport Beach. I did some business development meetings and conference calls plus the usual other work. I did a lot of cycling as well. Tuesday and Thursday evening, I worked out at the LA Velodrome which was a lot of fun and I got in some very fast high cadence efforts. Wednesday, was an easy road ride. Friday and Saturday my wife and I rode 2 hours each day along the coast. Today, was high cadence z3 efforts. The weather has been beautiful. In addition, I did 3 longish gym workouts. My next race is this coming Saturday at the velodrome.
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    AZTallRider, the climbs you mention are not that significant and you should be able to sit in on two of them as 50'/ mile and 100'/mile are not killers. Even the last one would be a big ring climb that will push you but not kill you. That is the one where you may make or break your race. Depending on the size of the group that could be a good place to begin the climb at the front and slowly drift back as the climbs progress. The % of climb isn't the type of climbs the light weight climbers excel on. If you do get dropped on the climbs don't attempt to ride solo after that. Sometimes it's better to let others catch up then work as a group that allows you to ride faster yet expend less energy.
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    Our race was canceled today due to snow on the Mid Ohio Sports Car Course. Instead I rode out to the hilly area near the Hinckley Metro Park and did 2 min L5/6 hill intervals. My efforts were all over the place with the best 2' average of 511 watts and the worst of the 8 intervals @ 415 watts. The same workout on flat land the averages are no more than 30 watts different and while on the rollers the ave is less than 20 watts between the best and worst intervals.
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    To put it succinctly, Jet, you put out some very inspiring power numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    To put it succinctly, Jet, you put out some very inspiring power numbers.
    Thanks for the props, I do have an athletic background and have been training for racing the past 4 years. Your improvement and results will come with time. For me the first year was an eye opener, the 2nd saw great improvements with a breakdown mid way through the season and the last year offered more improvements with performance lasting mid way through cyclo cross season. So far this year I am much stronger possibly due to the core/resistance work and/or the continuation of physical development from the prior year's work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet View Post
    Heal up quickly macmccrady. Are you allowed to ride yet? Your running is probably on hold for a while so you must be feeling trapped. My left ankle was screwed and plated a little over a year agorder in oto fuse it so I know how being off training feels.
    I started on a stationary, recumbent bike just under 4 weeks after surgery. Started on the road on my mountain bike in about 5 weeks. Started on the road on my road bike in about 6 weeks, after changing out the clipless pedals. My cycling felt essentially normal, except for my conditioning, early on. It is my running which is giving me trouble. It has been about 9 weeks now since my surgery and all I can so is a very slow jog, and running is probably considered my forte. I hold many running records. I wish I could hear from someone with a break similar to mine, who has tried to make a running comeback. I appreciate your asking your question. Thanks.

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    This was going to be my first race (Mid-Ohio). What is the course like as I know no one who has raced on it before? I plan or riding it on the 26th.

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    Did the pre-ride yesterday, and this is what I told Coach about it:

    Today was a tale of two rides. Legs were tired, but I did fine getting into Saguaro, not pushing too hard on the steepest part of Shea. But I had no idea it would be so hard to find water. I started having to conserve water, ending up with only my Sustained Energy water until I got some water from a guy on a horse as I went up Usury pass. But it was a bit late and I paid a price. Had to really work at not puking as I crested the pass and headed down. I stopped at a the first store I came to for water and to cool down.

    If there is a way to mess up, I'm finding it lately. An Arizona rider running out of water? Not supposed to happen.

    But it turns out this is a fast course. Thinking back to a conversation last year with the friend who has been a big source of info as I've gotten into racing, the lead pack is at 30+ for about the first hour. The first gradual climb ends with a pretty steep grade, and a lot of people will fall off. Then there is a 40+ downhill, where I hope the police have the lights locked green at the bottom. A really good reason to be in the lead group, or you can get stopped and there goes platinum. The uphills after that are all big ring, even Usury pass, if you still have the legs. Many people won't. I'm hoping I will. Last year, there were only 8 people in the first group to finish; the speed and climbs took their toll.

    I think the first climb is really key. Stay with the group then, and you have wheels for the fastest section, and the police always clear the way for the lead group. Then there is a really long haul up to the next downhill section, and things will splinter even more, but it won't matter quite as much for the next downhill section. It's twistier, and there are no lights (and no water!) for long long way.

    Unless I want to hit a SAG stop for water, I'm going to need to either add cages behind my seat, or stuff bottles in my pockets. I need my carb-water, and at least three bottles of just water. Or, I can find someone to hand me a bag somewhere along the way, if they are allowing that. Of course, whether they allow it or not, there will be people doing it.
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    Fluid handups would work if you are allowed and you have someone to make the handup. Probably be good to have a backup location if you miss or something goes wrong. Make sure that you get some practice doing the handup beforehand. I did a 75 mile race with 7,000' of climbing two years ago, with no sag or feed zones, and carried 4 bottles but ended up giving my brother in law one when he lost the 2nd of his two when he crossed some RR tracks. In most of my races in hot conditions and over 45 miles I'll carry three bottles for the race. I put the extra bottle in my pocket. If I needed more fluids and didn't want to stop,or worry about pulling a bottle from my back pocket, I could also put my 50oz camelbak under my jersey which would be the equivalent of 2 bottles.

    I have a cast iron stomach and use Perpetuem as my race fuel on longer events, I empty electrolyte capsules in my Gatorade bottles and supplement it all with hits from a GU flask. I really try to avoid opening any packet or wrapper while racing. I've found it too hard to pull the items from my pocket, too hard to open and too difficult to chew while racing.
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    Sounds like a good routine Jet. I just checked the rules, and handups aren't allowed. I can understand that, envisioning lots of inexperienced people causing mass mayhem, myself one of them. My wife has already made it clear she isn't interested in peforming feed zone tasks... I'd have to pay my step-son. :-) There are plenty of rest stops for the event, including one at the base of the last climb. I'm thinking I'll start with a bottle in a pocket, and if I still run low, I'll just have to stop. The start is at 6:15, so the race will be over before the time I started yesterday. Much cooler.

    The Sustained Energy seemed to work pretty well yesterday; my only problem (I think) was hydration. Well, and tired legs from it being the end of an 11.5 hour week. I supplemented the SE with a GU pack before a couple of the climbs, and also a pack of Clif Bloks I had laying around. I've mixed gel in a water bottle in the past, to avoid packets (what a mess those become), but that doesn't give you the concentrated hit when you want it. I do have a gel flask, and will try that. Great way to know you'll never be short of carbs. I've been keeping electrolyte tablets in a pocket and popping them, but again, that has the potential for slowing me down futzing with them.

    So many factors - so much to learn.
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    AzTallRider, Another thing that I will do just prior to the start is to drink a full bottle of fluids over 20 minutes just proir to starting. That makes one less to carry.
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    So Bill..... This is where you are hanging out these days... Sounds like you're ready to go in 2011. I plan to be at Malabar this Saturday and need some one to pull me up that darned hill. I'll bring a rope..

    See you then!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootlegger View Post
    So Bill..... This is where you are hanging out these days... Sounds like you're ready to go in 2011. I plan to be at Malabar this Saturday and need some one to pull me up that darned hill. I'll bring a rope..

    See you then!!
    AZ, I have found the solution to achieving your 3:05 time. Invite A'Jet and use one of these.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootlegger View Post
    So Bill..... This is where you are hanging out these days... Sounds like you're ready to go in 2011. I plan to be at Malabar this Saturday and need some one to pull me up that darned hill. I'll bring a rope..

    See you then!!
    Jeff, I have vowed the past two years to never ever race the Malabar race again. So, I'm 40% certain. I make it up the hill with the lightweights then can't hold on through the rollers and end up riding solo for the rest of the race. My coach thinks the training I've been doing indicates the hills could be a positive. I still have my own opinion. Right now I'm leaning towards racing Sunday at Deer Creek in the Cat 4's. It's a flat 47 mile race that should be fun, be 64 degrees, and suits my riding style since it will probably end in a sprint for the survivors. My son who lives in Columbus will probably race the P,1,2 race that same day.

    I do plan on racing the rescheduled Mid-Ohio race on March 26. I'm planning to race the Cat 3/4 race and work as a team since we may have at least a 1/2 dozen riders. If our strong Cat 3 riders aren't there I'll ride with the Masters. How about you?

    Hermes, I will not show my wife the "bicycle bungee video".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    AZ, I have found the solution to achieving your 3:05 time. Invite A'Jet and use one of these.

    He can big ring the hills.
    Now we're talkin'.
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    Bootlegger, and any one else who wants to ride. We are riding this Wed 3/26 same time and place as the animated invite only a day later. Today's ride got rained out and will riding the 2 hr Z3 ride tomorrow. Come on out to play y'all. I'll be doing 8 x 2' L5/6 intervals on rollers tonight instead of tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet View Post
    Bootlegger, and any one else who wants to ride. We are riding this Wed 3/26 same time and place as the animated invite only a day later. Today's ride got rained out and will riding the 2 hr Z3 ride tomorrow. Come on out to play y'all. I'll be doing 8 x 2' L5/6 intervals on rollers tonight instead of tomorrow.

    http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11382467
    This sounds like a hammer and nail ride to me. One man's z3 is another's z4 .... or z5. I always seem to need one more z.
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    Bill, I wish I could join you guys but I'm sitting in our Boston (actually Westboro) MA office and won't be back until late Thursday. I have to plan my workouts around my travels, but it works out well because I have a tendency to over-do it and this gives me my down time. Needless to say this winter has been rough.

    I will be riding the Mid-Ohio race on the 26th and plan to do the +50 Masters. I hope to see you at Malabar...what's a little pain??? weakness leaving the body.....!!

    Stay in touch...any word on the Westlake Races??

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    Howdy,

    Sounds like things are progressing well for all of you. One of these days I need to get more scientific about my training like all of you are doing.

    I do know that my mileage is down about 250 miles from last year because I have been racing a lot and the weather hasn't been overly cooperative on weekends. However, I've never done so many races by mid-March: 14 road races and criteriums, 1 track TT, and 3 road TTs.

    Out of those 18 races I have 2 DNFs, a DFL (last Saturday's TT), a 4th (Tuesday series race, 5-man break), a PR (500 m TT), and a bunch of pack finishes. It's been a pretty mixed bag of results.

    A bit about the Valley of the Sun Stage Race back in February. I had a lot of fun but hindsight is also 20-20. I should have entered the 50+ race instead of the 40+ race. I was 55th out of 76 in the TT, but if I had been in the 50+ field I would have been 26th out of 52. The 40+ road race was kind of crazy too. We were going up the hill (3%-6% grade) at 20+ MPH. I popped near the top the first time up and got in with a chase group that miraculously caught the field but unfortunately, we caught the field about 2 miles from the climb. I got popped again near the top, chased with some of the same guys from the first lap, and got dropped from them the 3rd time up the hill.

    I rode the last lap by myself and it was just when the wind really came up. I suffered all the way around and barely made it up the climb to the finish. I was 3rd from last on the stage and 3rd from last on GC (68th) on GC.

    The last stage was the criterium. The 50+ field looked reasonably sane. When we rolled up to the line the Chief Referee noted that if we got dropped and pulled we would still be given an adjusted finishing time for GC. The race started and it was like a Pro/1/2 race. A few laps in I got dropped with a teammate (who was Lanterne Rouge) and another guy who was pretty bad at cornering. We kept plugging away at about 25 MPH and we got pulled just as the field was getting 3 to go. In the end, per the published results, we DID NOT get a finishing time and we were not listed on the final GC which is one of my DNFs. Not that it really made much difference. The final GC had 49 finishers on it. I probably would have been next to last if they'd included us.

    Right now I'm probably going to take a 3 week break from weekend races but I'll still be racing on Tuesday evenings.

    Also sorry to have missed Hermes and Velo Diva today at the velodrome but I needed to make an appearance at our club ride today (since it didn't rain), especially since I'm on the Board of Directors.

    My next big objectives are a couple of road races in April. My goal: don't get dropped on the hills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    My next big objectives are a couple of road races in April. My goal: don't get dropped on the hills.
    I don't think that goal ever really changes, does it? You just keep trying to 'not get dropped on the hills' by faster and faster groups. Like the Greg LeMond quote: "It never gets any easier. You just go faster."

    Lot's of racing, Cleave, and sorry I missed you at VOS. I couldn't break away from the office to watch the Crit.

    Another great quote, from the immortal Rosanne Rosannadanna, may she rest in peace: "It's always something. If it's not one thing, it's the other." I need to put that quote on a jersey, and is it seems to truly match cycling, at least my cycling anyway.

    This is long, but there is a point to it, if you can read long enough.

    After discussing my Mesa pre-ride with Coach, we decided I should get some seat mounted bottle cages asap, so I could ride with those on a couple of long rides before the race. I did, getting a Profile Design setup on Wed, and installed it Fri, or tried to too. It didn't match up to my saddle rails very well, and the cages themselves were really hard to get bottles in and out of. I knew it wasn't the answer, so I left them off for the Sat group ride, which I was doing with one of the fast LBS groups. I tried putting a bottle in my pocket, but that didn't work for me, so I went with two bottles, knowing there would be a water stop. I grabbed my electrolyte tablets, since I was leaving a bunch of my electrolyte water in the car. We took off - 50+ riders in the A group. This group is at the opposite extreme of a no-drop group. When the group was split by a light turning red, right at the start, the ones that made the light (most of them by running it ) just rode off. Didn't even slow.

    Then, as we were really getting into the meat of the ride, I dropped a bottle, leaving me with only my Sustained Energy bottle. Oh well, I could manage. Then a little later, I dropped my electrolyte tablets. I'm setting records for finding ways to mess up. "If it's not one thing..."

    This was the fastest group I ever tried to hang with. It is somewhere past the edge of my limits. How much, I'm still not sure. I have no margin of error. If I get gapped, I'm done. I was with the front group of what had become A-2 (those of us that hadn't made the light), when they unexpectedly pulled into a shopping center. Way early for a stop, but I figured it must have been a planned regroup, so I slowed a bit. Wups. They were just cutting through the parking lot, and that little error got me dropped by that group of 8-10. I kept my pace up, and caught a couple of guys that had either been dropped by that little group, or the main A-1 folks. I tucked in behind, and we did a small paceline with 60 second pulls. Another guy we passed hooked on, and we motored through to the real water-stop. I filled and left right away, solo, and ended up having to wait for folks that really knew the route. There was an out and back section that didn't really show well on the Google Earth route map I was using. After I reconnected with the old paceline, the main group came blasting back the other way, and we all turned around to chase them.

    And this is what my long post was leading up to. I couldn't quite connect up with the pack. Looking at my data file, I was doing 550-650 watts trying to hook up, and it wasn't quite enough to do it. The other two guys connected, but I didn't. I fell off the back, and watched them fade into the distance. The troubling thing for me is that, in those situations, I feel SO close, like if I just put in the right effort, I'd connect and stay there. I almost think it's some mental thing, where I don't push quite hard enough, or quite long enough, to get myself into the pack. It's like I'm letting my body win the argument when it's saying "There's no more." and my brain is saying "Yes there is. I know it's there; just give it to me." There is a limit on what my legs will put out in those situations, but my gut is telling me I'm just not tapping them the right way. Almost like I'm driving a car with a limiter on the carb. I should be able to do it, but I don't.

    I also know that I am working a lot harder, having to generate more watts than the people around me, to maintain the same pace. Whether it is my 200# weight, non-aero-height, heavier steel bike, or general lack of experience, I don't know, but I am clearly just not as efficient.

    Anyway... I'll stop before I make everyone's eyes bleed from reading too much!
    "If you're riding less than 18 MPH up a 2% grade please tell people Coggan is coaching you."

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