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    Sorry to hear that, I'd be bummed if I ever wrecked my Jubilee Sport. I was bummed about trashing one of the Rigida rims that were on it when I bought it.

    The Rhode Island DPW decided to leave an open hole in a bike travel lane that runs down a fairly steep hill and along a busy route, without marking the hole in any way. My bunny hopping skills aren't what they were in 1981. I almost cleared the hole, just caught the lip of the hole with my back rim and completely taco'd the rim.

    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    I'm approaching a roundabout.
    We have them around here, but we call them "rotaries". I would never ride them here, since as you said we don't have many, drivers don't know how to navigate them very well. Lost and confused drivers are a huge danger for a rider.

    And, you know, I JUST realized what that Yes song is about. I never really thought about it, I'm not a huge Yes fan.

    ( I know these things are exotically rare in the USA, but I hope some of you understand the principle). Visibility is good, there's nothing approaching on my right (we drive on the left...), i have the right of way, so I proceed. It's slightly downhill, I cross at c.15 mph, maybe a shade faster - I'm accelerating. The Toyota drives straight out in front of me from my left. I hit the brakes and his rear door virtually simultaneously and am catapulted right over the roof of the car and onto the road. The point of my shoulder takes the impact, glancing blow to my temple, various grazes and contusions. Police, ambulance, x-rays and four hours in Accident and Emergency later, I am discharged home with a separated shoulder, probable torn ligaments and an appointment with the orthopods and for a scan tomorrow morning.

    Nothing broken, surprisingly, but the soft tissue damage looks severe, my left shoulder has been moved a couple of inches down my side. Hurts like hell. I am not amused.

    And my lovely vintage Raleigh is dead. Both top and downtubes are like origami
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteamingAlong View Post

    ( I know these things are exotically rare in the USA, but I hope some of you understand the principle).
    Actually, they are becoming more and more common here in the US when roads are re-engineered or new roads installed.

    If you really want a mind bender think about driving them from the opposite lane in the opposite direction...my trips to NZ and OZ took some recalibrating.

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    Rotaries are quite common in New England. Major four-way intersections out here are being replaced with them. The key to dealing with them is to take the lane. Completely, without hesitation. Signal first.

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    On my way to the track yesterday, a stone hit the windshield and cracked the glass. I just had it replaced so it was an expensive day at the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Rotaries are quite common in New England. Major four-way intersections out here are being replaced with them. The key to dealing with them is to take the lane. Completely, without hesitation. Signal first.
    The key to using them is to make sure nobody is in the lane you are taking. Unfortunately, the driver I encountered neglected that elementary precaution.

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    Out for Masters Track Nats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post


    Out for Masters Track Nats.
    Sorry to hear. See you on Sunday?

    Since the Le Tour started I've done some riding that allows me to fantasize that I'm in it.

    I crashed on the first Sunday of the Tour and was wearing that mesh stuff that holds bandages in place on my arm until a couple of days ago. Even had some other "racer" ask me if I was trying to look like I was in the Tour. Had a very hard climb on July 4th and all I could think about was how I climb like Cavendish and TT like Andy Schleck. Then yesterday, I got caught in the rain(!) on my evening training ride. Fortunately I knew there was a good chance of rain so I rode my single-speed rain bike -- complete with fenders.

    Just for good measure I got a flat on a small bridge about 4 miles from home that goes over a waterway that connects the ocean to a small bay. I stopped at the top of the bridge with my bike leaning on the railing. As I pulled the recalcitrant inner tube from my seat bag my tire levers flew out and under the railing. I watched them splash down in the bay. Fortunately I have enough hand strength to get the 700 X 28C tire off of the rime without them.

    At this point I can do without further Tour analogies on my rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    Sorry to hear. See you on Sunday?
    Paramount? Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    Had a very hard climb on July 4th and all I could think about was how I climb like Cavendish
    Hard climb? I thought I would pull up and chat a bit but you and your group vanished pretty quickly. I climb like Magnus Backstedt.

    edit, it was good to see you again, that makes twice this year.
    Last edited by big john; 07-13-12 at 09:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big john View Post
    edit, it was good to see you again, that makes twice this year.
    I'm thinking another party at my place in the fall after Nats. We might talk Hermes and MEA into coming down...Vance Mac, Eric, and hey, if any out of state/town folks want to vacation I have room and it's 40 minutes to Dizzyland...

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    We will be in OC and getting ready for elite nationals a week before and competing / training during the week. And we will be at VSP August 21st through the 26th. I am going for the oldest kilo rider which I should win easily.
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    Sorry to hear about that, Ex. I took it as being the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Sorry to hear about that, Ex. I took it as being the other way around.
    Me, too. How come, Ex?
    Last edited by chasm54; 07-14-12 at 08:39 AM.

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    Reading RR TT results, if she enters the Mount Diablo Hill climb, I am going to get my ass handed to me. I can say ass, right? BTW, there is 89 entries as of this morning. I entered 55+ and we have the biggest group so far.
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    Today must be a creative day for me. I had another idea on presenting races reports. Each racer start his/her own race report thread e.g. Race Reports - Hermes or Race Reports - Red Rider and put all the race reports in that thread. That way it organizes races and comments and creates more visible content when one opens the forum. And you have all content you created in one spot so that you can copy and paste into other electronic media and reuse format for new reports. Since we have a small group, this could work well. The other options are all still available.
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    Here is an interesting article on Wiggo. I believe him but think the sideburns have to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermes View Post
    here is an interesting article on wiggo. I believe him but think the sideburns have to go.
    LOL. Cast your mind back to a previous haircut. I think the current version is an improvement.

    And I like the idea about race reports, Hermes, it's a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    Me, too. How come, Ex?
    Too erratic to make it worth going out to do individual events, so I'd be flying in for one day (5km) of racing on the team side.

    Just not there on my prep...so I have a choice of pointing towards road nats where we have a pretty decent shot at winning the tandem TT, and supporting my teammates in the crit and road race or taking more time to prep for track nats when I know I'm not going in top form. I've never gone to Nats and not thought I had a chance of winning. The lowest I've finished in 5 events is 3rd.

    Likely I won't be 100% for Bend either but if I can hit 90-95% I'd be in the mix. The track you have to be 100% for the timed events. No hiding or faking it.

    This year went off the rails after my crash. It's basically a salvage project right now with an eye towards next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post

    This year went off the rails after my crash. It's basically a salvage project right now with an eye towards next year.
    At my rather more modest level, I feel much the same. Between the broken ribs over Christmas, and now my crash, I feel that my training has been all over the place. So while I will get back to racing as soon as I am able, I'm starting to think about what I need to do to maximise my chances of progression next year. I was going to say " hit the ground running", but in the wake of recent events...

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    Just finished massage. This may be one of the best ways to spend money on ones health and cycling yielding the most results for $ spent. Accelerated recovery, and in my case, less tight muscles, are at a premium as we age.
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    Age groups are interesting. I have a couple of friends / competitors that are close to my age that I can get rid of for a year. And there are the known racers who age up who are really tough and as well as the unknowns.

    We had our club picnic and team picture last night. I was talking with a trackie who is 69 and going to Nationals and Worlds this year and looking forward to aging up next year. Another teammate aged up to 70 last year. He is going to Colorado Springs and is spending time in the Sierras acclimating to altitude. Plus there is another 60 - 64 at Truckee, CA acclimating to altitude getting ready for track nationals.

    We have to take our competition, medals and jerseys as we find them. Winning is never easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Age groups are interesting. I have a couple of friends / competitors that are close to my age that I can get rid of for a year. And there are the known racers who age up who are really tough and as well as the unknowns.

    We had our club picnic and team picture last night. I was talking with a trackie who is 69 and going to Nationals and Worlds this year and looking forward to aging up next year. Another teammate aged up to 70 last year. He is going to Colorado Springs and is spending time in the Sierras acclimating to altitude. Plus there is another 60 - 64 at Truckee, CA acclimating to altitude getting ready for track nationals.

    We have to take our competition, medals and jerseys as we find them. Winning is never easy.
    Especially if you're a fatty like me.

    Seriously, winning is good. That's why it's a bicycle race. For me, winning is a way-point on a much longer journey.
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    When I plunged into racing and began to understand what it takes to compete, my long term goal was to spend the 3 years before I hit the 60+ group gaining the fitness and skills necessary to win when I got there. I'm more focused/obsessed than many guys, so I'm a bit ahead of that, as I believe I will be competitive next year with a license age of 59. I agree that any win is a good win. This is a brutal, darwinian sport. One where any weakness is exploited, and any competitive advantage has to be leveraged.

    There is a saying about how cycling is a sport where, if someone is down, he or she is going to get stomped on rather than being helped up. That made Greipel's win this year, after he stayed upright, avoiding Farrar's crash by stepping on him as he went by, all the more poignant.
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    ...and speaking of Le Tour, today is a good day for being injured and unable to ride. The Aubisque, the Tourmalet and a couple of other serious climbs thrown in for good measure. One of the days when watching it live is worthwhile.

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    Another split road/track workout yesterday; I'm liking these. Getting a lot of questioning looks though when people ask when I'm leaving for track nats and I tell them I'm not.

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