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Old 04-27-11, 05:35 PM
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Hi,

I am too old to be burning the candle at both ends the way I have lately. Hopefully I can live long enough to retire (3 years?). Sounds like all of you have been doing pretty well.

Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet
I raced in two circuit races on Saturday... When it came time for the field sprint, 2 guys were off the front, I started mid-field and picked off guys all the way up the hill even though I had to weave in and out for a clean line. If I started sprinting with the early guys I think I would have passed them also.

I'll tell you, this last year of being in the 45+ and 50+ age grades has been pretty tough. Next year as a 55+ will hopefully go better.

BTW, I'll post some photos of my road bikes (new and upgraded) in the main part of the sub forum just to see what kind of reaction I get.

I had no intention of racing with the 35+ and 45+ Masters, but my son egged me on by saying "you are here so why not"... I still need to get over the sinus infection but I'm pleased with how I was able to stay on with a minimal effort body wise.
Doing two races when you only intended to do one and doing better in the second race than expected is priceless. It's only happened me a couple times over the years.

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I added up my starts so far, realized I have 10, and just submitted my request for upgrade to Cat4. My first sanctioned road race will be in June: Bike the Bluff in Show Low, AZ. With my Cat4, I have the option of racing either Cat4 or M55+. I'm leaning towards M55+, but welcome contrary opinions.
It's not necessarily an easy decision. I would talk with an experienced 55+ racer in your area. I would tend to think that 55+ is the better choice for a couple of different reasons and if you were in SoCal I would definitely say 55+. Out here, Cat 4 races can be pretty sketchy throughout the pack whereas in a 55+ race you can hang near the back much more easily and safely.

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Today was a track workout. We started with a warmup and then 2x20 lap motor pacing efforts. I was in 84 gear inched which was too small. The rest of the gang showed up and I joined in the 40 lap warmup which was a spin my legs out. It was a beautiful day at the track.
Sounds like your training is going well and I hope it translates into some good race results.

I haven't been to the track since I saw you and Ms. Diva. I may not go this week either with a 74 mile road race on Saturday.

Besides training and racing I've been building and rebuilding bikes, doing some local bicycle advocacy stuff, trying to be a reasonable Race Director for my club, and do what I need to do as a husband and parent. I've been racing a lot again after taking about a month break from weekend racing, but I was still doing our Tuesday evening series races. I did a 32 mile road race on Saturday, a 10.4 mile TT on Sunday, and the local Tuesday evening race yesterday. My results have been pretty bad of late but I am finishing and still having fun. I'm hoping things will start clicking in May.

BTW, I'll post some photos of my new and upgraded road bikes in the main part of the sub forum just to see what kind of reaction I get.
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Hi Cleave:

I will be at LAV on May 24th and May 26th for Roger's Session. I have a couple of business meeting arranged in LA. I hope to see you.
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After motor pacing yesterday, today my wife and I did a 2 hour endurance ride after work. It was a great evening for a ride and my legs felt great after the motor pacing at the track. Tonight, we had a lot of wind on the way back and took turns pulling into the wind.
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Weight this morning 171.1.
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Between rain and wind storms I was able to get home after work and mow most of my saturated lawn then do my ride. Last night's workout was 2.25 hrs with a WU, 1.75 hr Z3 interval then WD. The evening was a warm 71, 25 mph winds and spitting rain now and then. A training buddy rode with me. In spite of the winds and rolling terrain I averaged over 20 mph for the 45 mile ride that included the WU and very easy spin WD. The Z3 interval was supposed to be smooth but due to the buffeting winds and rollers of the route it was very hard to hold a constant pace, especially with the wind at our back and riding in the 53/12-13, and trying to keep power to the pedals. I used HR to determine the Z3 effort.

I believe I’m finally getting back to form from the sinus infection. After Tuesday's intervals and yesterday’s effort I'm beat up but not run down. Today's 1.5 hr Z2 ride and core/resistance session is welcome if not therapeutic.
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N+1 Update

Wanted to let you knowledgable folks know how the race bike fit evaluation is shaping up, and bug you for more info. I had gone back to the LBS that has the 64cm Madone, and really compared the geometry to my Gunnar. When I showed the guy who is helping me with this (a good friend of my coach) my diagrams of measurements of each bike, his jaw dropped. I asked him if he wanted to see the excel version, and he said "I think I need a drink instead." I can have that affect on people. :-)

But anyway, the Madone has 2cm greater reach, something I confirmed both in frame reach measurements, and by comparing saddle to bar distance from saddle points adjusted to have the same orientation to the BB. In other words, if I installed my saddle on the Madone, in the same position relative to the BB as I'm using now, there is 2cm greater reach to the bars, with them both set to the same drop. Interestingly though, the distance to an on-the-hoods position increases the reach another 2cm. The stock bars have 1cm greater reach than what I'm using, and the Ultegra 6700 shifters add about another cm compared to the 6600 Ultegra I have on the Gunnar. So, prior to any parts changes, and with both drops the same, the Madone stretches me out an extra 4cm. That's what I was feeling when I test rode it.

After nailing down the differences, we dropped the bars on my Gunnar the 2cm needed to match the Madone, and I've been riding it that way for the last week, including the 65 mile hard charity ride, and the Tuesday crit. It's feeling fine, especially when I'm working hard. I'm still getting used to having that angle when I'm in "easy commute mode".

So right now, My Gunnar is at a 4cm bar-drop, with no spacers, and the 6* 120mm stem flipped down. The Madone is at 4cm with the stock spacers (~2cm) in place, and the 6* 110mm stem flipped up. I've told the LBS guy I want to ride the bike one more time, with my saddle mounted, and to also ride far enough to find a decent hill to attack. I think that will make it about an hour ride.

So my questions are:

A. How much bar drop do you guys have on your various race bikes.

B. Do you use different bikes, with different drops for the different race types? I know the track bikes are different sorts of animals, drop wise, but are you generally using a different bike for crits and circuits than for longer road races?

I'm thinking that, since the Madone can match a drop I know is working, and can go down from there, it is probably in the right range. I can shorten the stem and install short reach bars to get the reach difference down to 2cm, which I think will also work.
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I thought I would throw my 2 cents in.

I will be racing for the first time May 21st. I am doing the Crank the Kank in norther NH. It is a 21 mile TT from Conway, NH up the Kancamagus Highway to the top of the pass. The fist 15 miles or so are a slow climb, then things get interesting for the final 5-6 miles. It jumps up to about a 7-8% grade.

It is a popular ride. Max 200 riders and 15 3 man teams. Registration opened at 6 am and I believe it was filled (max 200) probably prior to 7:30 am. I had a couple guys from the office that figured they had all morning to sign up and now are missing out.

I have been training mainly in doors and starting to get more and more out door riding. I plan to ride 5 hills tomorrow and more over the weekend.

Anyone hear ever ride the Crank the Kank?
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Welcome to the hood tandemnh. I'm not famililar with Crank the Kank. Please chime in with your workouts, successes and disasters. None of us likes to suffer alone and we all love to pat our own backsides.

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Will do. Plan to do some hill climbing tomorrow.

Saturday I have 3 basketball games to referee and I plan to ride my bike to the site. Probably about 16 mile ride to the site, 3 1/2 hours running/on my feet and then 16 miles home.

Sunday no riding but 4 games to referee.

Trying to figure out how to drop about 7-10 lbs by May 18... wait maybe I should put down this candy bar to start
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A: 4 inches or 10.16 cm of seat to bar drop on my road bike and I do go as much as 11 cm.

B. My TT bike is set up based upon hamstring flexibility and my ability to breathe. The more aero the more difficult it is to breathe. The same is true for my track bike set up either with endurance bars or aerobars. I have longer arms so the dimensions may be distorted.
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I have raced up Mount Hamilton twice - 4400 feet in 19 miles. The first 12 miles is 5.5% grade and last 7 miles 7%. This is a z3 tempo climb for me and I negative split the climb and save a lot for the last 7 miles.
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Originally Posted by AzTallRider
But anyway, the Madone has 2cm greater reach, something I confirmed both in frame reach measurements, and by comparing saddle to bar distance from saddle points adjusted to have the same orientation to the BB. In other words, if I installed my saddle on the Madone, in the same position relative to the BB as I'm using now, there is 2cm greater reach to the bars, with them both set to the same drop. Interestingly though, the distance to an on-the-hoods position increases the reach another 2cm. The stock bars have 1cm greater reach than what I'm using, and the Ultegra 6700 shifters add about another cm compared to the 6600 Ultegra I have on the Gunnar. So, prior to any parts changes, and with both drops the same, the Madone stretches me out an extra 4cm. That's what I was feeling when I test rode it.

So right now, My Gunnar is at a 4cm bar-drop, with no spacers, and the 6* 120mm stem flipped down. The Madone is at 4cm with the stock spacers (~2cm) in place, and the 6* 110mm stem flipped up. I've told the LBS guy I want to ride the bike one more time, with my saddle mounted, and to also ride far enough to find a decent hill to attack. I think that will make it about an hour ride.

So my questions are:

A. How much bar drop do you guys have on your various race bikes.

B. Do you use different bikes, with different drops for the different race types? I know the track bikes are different sorts of animals, drop wise, but are you generally using a different bike for crits and circuits than for longer road races?

I'm thinking that, since the Madone can match a drop I know is working, and can go down from there, it is probably in the right range. I can shorten the stem and install short reach bars to get the reach difference down to 2cm, which I think will also work.
Hi AzTR,

Matching the saddle position relative to the bottom bracket center is exactly where you need to start. Make sure that you have the same brand and model of saddle on each bike when you do this.

Then you can measure reach going in a straight line from the tip of the saddle to the centerline of the handlebars in the stem. As you noticed, if you have different bars and controls you may need to adjust for that. I know that you are adjusting a demo bike but once you make a final decision on your purchase, you should use the same components at all of your contact points on the bikes (saddle, pedals, handlebars, and controls).

Something doesn't sound quite right to me on the sizing of the Madone. A 110 mm stem on a frame your size sounds a bit short. Short stems on race geometry bike can make the steering a bit too sensitive. Race bikes respond quickly and can be "nervous" (hard to ride in a straight line) with a short stem.

As you know, there are a lot of bio mechanical factors that go into sizing and fitting a bike to a rider. I am a definitely on the edges of the bell curve when it comes to my body dimensions. If all of the other dimensions of the Madone are correct and you really need a 110 mm stem with 4 cm of drop, then you might want to find a frame that has a shorter top tube or (in actuality) a shorter reach dimension. A 110 mm stem is probably as short as you want to go. Check out what Lennard Zinn has to say about reach and stack height dimensions:

https://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...ndustry_154565

Remember, as you increase the handlebar drop you will increase the "total reach" from the saddle to the bars.

Finally, to answer you questions directly (I bet you thought I'd never get there):

A. My nominal drop is 9.5 cm (3.75 inches). Note that taller riders often have much larger drop to accommodate longer arms to achieve as flat a back as possible when in the drops.

B. If I know that I have a stretch of criteriums ahead of me I drop the bars to roughly 10 cm by taking out a 5 mm spacer. Your nominal position should be as low as you can comfortably maintain for any riding you do. I can get away with going a little lower for criteriums which are generally 1 hour max. I would NOT recommend having vastly different positions between your road racing and criterium positions. Part of training is getting your body to be comfortable and effective in a racing position -- whatever position that ends up being.

Sorry about being so verbose. Hope this helps and good luck.
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Great ride after work yesterday. 26.6 miles. 6 hills to climb the steepest reaches as high as 11%. Worked out to about a 1200 cal burn. Add all the climbing together still not quite matching the steep part of the Crank the Kank which will run several miles between 7-8%.

Today 3 basketball games to referee then back on the bike. I'm hoping to lose another6-7 lbs before the TT.
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Hi,

For some reason (mostly to avoid waking up in the middle of the night for a Masters 45+ 7:30a start), I'll be racing this afternoon in the Masters 35+ Cat 1-4 race at San Luis Rey. Five laps for about 74 miles on a course which was hard enough last year at four laps and 59 miles. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Originally Posted by Cleave
Hi,

For some reason (mostly to avoid waking up in the middle of the night for a Masters 45+ 7:30a start), I'll be racing this afternoon in the Masters 35+ Cat 1-4 race at San Luis Rey. Five laps for about 74 miles on a course which was hard enough last year at four laps and 59 miles. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Good luck. It should be a great day / afternoon for racing.

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I started swimming a couple of days a week. Last night I did 4 laps of a 25 meter pool - wow!. No I am not doing the Alcatraz swim to the shore. I do have a secret event later in the summer that I have been talking about doing since 1979. We will see.

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I did 2 hours with some z4 efforts. Today was a beautiful day with sunshine, strong winds and low humidity - 12% My eyes itched a lot.
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68 cm-how tall are you?
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Hi AzTR,

Matching the saddle position relative to the bottom bracket center is exactly where you need to start. Make sure that you have the same brand and model of saddle on each bike when you do this.
I'm going to ride it one more time, with my saddle installed in the correct position relative to the BB, including getting to a hill I can attack OTS.

Something doesn't sound quite right to me on the sizing of the Madone. A 110 mm stem on a frame your size sounds a bit short. Short stems on race geometry bike can make the steering a bit too sensitive. Race bikes respond quickly and can be "nervous" (hard to ride in a straight line) with a short stem.
I'll pay attention to that on the test ride. I have a 120mm stem on the Gunnar.

Remember, as you increase the handlebar drop you will increase the "total reach" from the saddle to the bars.
Yep. And it's that total reach that is hard to replicate. I replicated the drop, and am doing fine with that (just did a century yesterday with the 4cm drop), but replicating the total reach would require surgery. Hence the need for a fairly long test ride, with my saddle and pedals in place.

Thanks for the complete answers. Verbosity can be good sometimes.

Right now, I'm leaning towards getting the 5.2 they have in stock, assuming the final test ride pans out. Turns out the biggest difference, from a weight perspective, is that the 6 series has a full carbon fork, including the steerer. Except for the 64cm, which reverts to an alloy steerer. So I would be getting the different carbon material, made in the US, but not much weight difference. Plus I would have to get the 6.x without the benefit of a test ride, which concerns me. And since I've decided to start swapping wheels when racing, the heavier wheels on the 5.2 don't concern me. I had homed in on the Zipp 303's, since they have an aero shape and match the weight of pure climbing wheels. Reading this article, I think it's a great choice:

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fu...=Latest%20News
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68 cm-how tall are you?
6'6", with a lot of that in my legs. My "Pubic Bone Height" is 39".
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It was a picture perfect day for a ride with sunny skies and a high of 72 degrees. 2:45 minute endurance ride with several z3 SST efforts.
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Weight this morning 171.1.
Is that "good" for you? I'm trying to get back below 170---normally I'm 167-168 this time of year but I have a slim frame. Lately have been 173-174 and the extra 6-7 is load on the hills. I've stopped the Prednisone so hopefully that will aide some. I just don't want to go to Colorado carrying 6-7 extra pounds for doing 900 miles of hills.

I'm trying to get some resemblance of TT shape. What works well for me is jumping out in front of the group I ride with on weekdays. I do pulls for periods and get the HR up very high. Then after I've wet my shirt from drool I drop back in line until I can breathe again. After a short break I jump back out front again.
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I told my wife that Johan Vansemmerin (winner of this year's Paris-Roubaix) is a only a half inch shorter than I am, and weighs 170#. She looks at me now and then and says "I know your planning how to get down to 170 pounds, like (insert mangled attempt at Belgium name here)." She already thinks I'm bony like a chicken.

In reality, I'm planning to drop 5-6 pounds with N+1 bike weight!

170 pounds and you guys are worried about carrying it up hills. Phooey!!
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JPPE, Yes. I have been as low as 166 but that weight is hard for me to maintain. When I trained with the Russians, they wanted me between 168 and 172.
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Originally Posted by AzTallRider
6'6", with a lot of that in my legs. My "Pubic Bone Height" is 39".
You're only 11 inches taller than I am.

BTW, I'm about 153 lbs these days. I really need to get below 150 and closer to 145 would be better.
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