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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck View Post
    AzTR - Hope those tendon issues disappear quickly! I think your growth spurts are behind you.
    Yes, but you've never met him. No way someone can get that tall in just their teenage years....

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    I think I finally stopped, Sara, and am in fact going the other way.

    Anyone else keep a "chain log"?

    Chains

    11sp Race
    2014-02-07
    2014-02-08 +12 = 12
    2014-02-09 +38 = 50
    2014-02-10 +10 = 60
    2014-02-13 +13 = 73
    2014-02-14 +17 = 90
    2014-02-15 +24 = 114
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-02-22 +55 = 55/169
    2014-02-23 +18 = 73/187
    2014-02-28 +24 = 97/211
    2014-03-02 +48 = 145/259
    2014-03-04 +19 = 164/278
    2014-03-05 +15 = 179/293
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-03-09 +14 = 14/307
    2014-03-11 +15 = 29/322
    2014-03-13 +15 = 44/337
    2014-03-15 +44 = 88/381
    2014-03-16 +25 = 113/406
    2014-03-18 +15 = 128/421
    2014-03-21 +11 = 139/432
    2014-03-22 +20 = 159/452
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-03-27 +15 = 15/467
    2014-03-29 +12 = 27/479
    2014-03-30 +27 = 54/506
    2014-04-01 +32 = 86/538
    2014-04-04 +12 = 98/550
    2014-04-05 +56 = 154/606
    2014-04-15 +47 = 201/653
    2014-04-18 +29 = 230/682
    2014-04-19 +49 = 279/731
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    Mounted 2014-06-15
    2014-06-16 +12 = 12/743
    2014-06-17 +38 = 50/781
    2014-06-18 +19 = 69/800
    2014-06-21 +54 = 123/923
    2014-07-12 +83 = 206/1,006
    2014-07-13 +34 = 240/1,040
    2014-07-20 +14 = 254/1,054





    11sp Training
    2014-04-20 +17 = 17/17

    2014-04-23 +25 = 42/42
    2014-04-25 +13 = 55/55
    2014-04-26 +13 = 68/68
    2014-04-27 +46 = 114/114
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-05-02 +22 = 22/136
    2014-05-03 +66 = 88/202
    2014-05-06 +20 = 108/222
    2014-05-08 +15 = 123/237
    2014-05-09 +14 = 137/251
    2014-05-10 +19 = 156/270
    2014-05-11 +14 = 180/294
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-05-13 +24 = 24/318
    2014-05-16 +16 = 30/334
    2014-05-17 +60 = 90/394
    2014-05-18 +15 = 105/409
    2014-05-20 +12 = 117/421
    2014-05-22 +14 = 131/435
    2014-05-24 +16 = 147/453
    2014-05-25 +44 = 187/497
    2014-05-26 +13 = 200/510
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***
    2014-05-28 +19 = 10/529
    2014-05-29 +14 = 24/543
    2014-05-31 +45 = 69/588
    2014-06-01 +10 = 79/598
    2014-06-03 +15 = 94/613
    2014-06-06 +15 = 109/628
    2014-06-07 +39 = 148/667
    2014-06-10 +14 = 162/681
    2014-06-13 +12 = 174/693
    2014-06-14 +64 = 238/757
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***






    10sp Race
    2014-02-07
    2014-02-16 +13 = 13
    2014-02-17 +13 = 26
    2014-02-20 +13 = 39
    2014-02-21 +21 = 60
    2014-02-24 +12 = 72
    2014-03-03 +8 = 80
    2014-03-08 +15 = 95
    2014-03-13 +15 = 110
    2014-03-14 +10 = 120
    2014-05-04 +13 = 133
    2014-05-18 +15 = 148
    2014-05-28 +19 = 167
    2014-05-29 +14 = 181
    2014-06-01 +10 = 191
    2014-06-15 +14 = 205
    *** Cleaned and Waxed ***




    10sp Training
    Mounted 2014-06-15
    2014-06-17 +11 = 11/11
    2014-06-18 +11 = 22/22
    2014-07-05 +13 = 35/35
    2014-07-06 +20 = 55/55
    2014-07-10 +11 = 66/66



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    10sp New and Cleaned Chain
    11sp Race Chain 2014-02-16
    11sp Race Chain 2014-03-06 11sp Race Chain 2014-03-24


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    10sp New and Cleaned Chain
    11sp New and Cleaned Chain
    11sp Race Chain 2014-04-20
    11sp Training Chain 2014-04-27
    11sp Training Chain 2014-05-12
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    I'm doing well to wipe it down, lube it and wipe it down again weekly.
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    I'll take mine off the bike and warsh it up on occasion but I don't keep a log.

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    I clean and lube, on the bike, approximately every other ride. I don't want to hear it on the rings, at all. Noise equals wear. I clean the cassettes about once every two weeks, and I clean the jockey pulleys on the derailleur every time I lube the chains. I don't remove the chains to clean them. I am in the process of trying out different solvents to clean the chain, I've been using WD40 and a clean rag. It doesn't get into the rollers that well, and that's where taking the chain off and soaking it would have an advantage.
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    I hope Cleave and Ex chime in on this. I've seen their work. They drivelines look better than new!
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    I'm pretty ocd regarding my bike, but not to that level. My stuff is always clean and ready, but I haven't resorted to using Microsoft to help yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post

    And let the age thing go. We are all old with problems of some kind. Focusing on that is counterproductive.

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    Hi, I am OCD about my drivetrain but I don't keep a log. When it looks dirty I clean it -- compulsively. I wipe it down a couple of times per week with a dry rag. I probably lube the chain every 200-300 miles. I have been using Rock "N" Roll Gold lube for about a decade. Turns out it tested pretty well in that big independent test last year. I get it through Amazon.
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    Unlike you wimps in SoCal we have to deal with rain and all it's variants and the road debris left over from the winter that never really goes away. I do a full chain-off cleaning every 2-3 weeks but if we have a wet stretch I have to do a full cleaning several times a week. I use a blend of 60/40 Mobil 1 and mineral spirits. My drivetrain will look like Cleaves when it leaves the house after a full cleaning. It goes downhill from there.

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    I clean my drive train as needed. We have similar weather as Shovelhd. I spray the parts with Park Tool degreaser, brush it, rinse with water, then follow up with Simple Green and rinse again. Once dry I usually put a dry lube on the chain. The brand of lube varies and Finish Line is the usual, however I won a bottle of T-9 with some other swag and have been using that lately. I have no idea how many miles are on my chains. I have a chain length checker tool and replace the chain when it exceeds .75 on the scale.
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    Cleave's story is not believable. What I think is that he has Boeing maintenance guys under the direction of technicians from BA's special lubricants division come over to his garage and clean and lube his drive train with military grade, top secret stuff that produces negative friction.
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Einstein

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    Close but not quite. I have a negative ion generator in my chain stay that creates a negatively charged field around my drivetrain to repel dirt.

    If I told all of you what I really do, you'd make fun of me and hurt my feelings.
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    Took care of my dad from Thursday morning until Monday night. He lives with my brother (2 years younger than me), my brother's wife, and their 3 kids, in the house where we grew up. My "little" brother (7 years younger) headed down from Maine to help out. I had Junior with me, so it was a three generation house, all males. It was hard because we can't leave my dad alone much and the house isn't child proofed for a 2 year old, so I had to be really clear with what Junior could touch or not touch ("That's for Mommy and Daddy only!" - he really understands that and tries to follow any such commands but if, for example, I don't tell him the sugar is off limits then he is okay with pouring it onto the table, floor, etc, which is one of the now-off-limits items in that house) and hope he didn't hurt himself while we were dealing with my dad. The Missus headed down for about 36 hours but had to go back to work. All in all it was very tiring. I barely hit the computer. I couldn't think outside the immediate stuff. No ride (spider web on the bike when I put it back on the car). Etc.

    I hope that I'm easier to handle in 25-35 years.
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    I am going to be a bear when I get old. Oh wait.

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    CDR, How old is your dad?
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    I have my second PT session today. Last Friday she found what she believes to be a tear in my calf muscle; a half-golfball sized 'something', that might be what initiated the tendon issue. She also determined that my entire left calf was swollen and hot. She did some massage, stretching, and e-stim under an ice wrap. I've been repeating that, without the e-stim, twice daily. Key is to control the scarring in the calf muscle. 6 weeks of 2-3 PT sessions per week. With the probability of a tear, I stayed off the bike this week. That lump is down now, as is the inflammation, so depending on what she says, I may ride tomorrow morning.

    Do your stretching, people.
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    Wiggans done with the road. Says he is now focusing on track. I will give that a like. BBC Sport - Sir Bradley Wiggins - I will not ride Tour de France again
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    Undercurrent of resentment, calling it the way it is, or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    I have my second PT session today. Last Friday she found what she believes to be a tear in my calf muscle; a half-golfball sized 'something', that might be what initiated the tendon issue. She also determined that my entire left calf was swollen and hot. She did some massage, stretching, and e-stim under an ice wrap. I've been repeating that, without the e-stim, twice daily. Key is to control the scarring in the calf muscle. 6 weeks of 2-3 PT sessions per week. With the probability of a tear, I stayed off the bike this week. That lump is down now, as is the inflammation, so depending on what she says, I may ride tomorrow morning.

    Do your stretching, people.
    Ouch! Hope the recovery goes well and on schedule.
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    It is hard to say what Wiggans is feeling. IMO, he was good at the track and returning to it solidified in his mind that he prefers the track. And I think he will focus on timed and team events where he has a competitive advantage versus mass start.

    AZT, hoping that tendon / muscle heals up fast. You have had enough injury adversity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    AZT, hoping that tendon / muscle heals up fast. You have had enough injury adversity.
    Yep, and I still have no idea exactly when this happened. Seemed to come on gradually, which doesn't jive with a tear. <shrug>

    Thanks for the kind words, folks.
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    I need a flow chart for my life. Anyone know some good software?

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    Yeah, get that out of your head now (evil laugh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    I need a flow chart for my life. Anyone know some good software?

    Doing loan docs for the new house. We're back to 140+ pages of documentation and signatures vs. the promissory note written on toilet tissue and signed in crayon pre-meltdown.

    Hey everybody, it's 1985 again!



    Yeah, get that out of your head now (evil laugh)
    Mine looks like

    include <work.BS>
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    It bothers me to look at men who are prettier than I am...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    Yep, and I still have no idea exactly when this happened. Seemed to come on gradually, which doesn't jive with a tear. <shrug>

    Thanks for the kind words, folks.
    In case I didn't wish you well, AzT, I hope I've been thinking of you. Get well, my friend!
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