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    Yesterday I rode a brisk 21 miles, averaging 14.8 MPH. I had two personal bests on a couple of stretches. On one (which had some rollers) I managed to hold 18 MPH on the rollers, and 21 - 22 MPH on the flats - for 4 miles. Maybe it's the spin classes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarals View Post
    AJ, you made me choke on a perfectly good glass of V8 with that one! Great effort - you ought to make a full length feature! John Lassiter needs to know about you....
    Thank you Sara, I like you more everyday. I really think the hot chick with the green eyes made the flick what it is, the best $ .75 I've ever invested in a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet View Post
    Thank you Sara, I like you more everyday. I really think the hot chick with the green eyes made the flick what it is, the best $ .75 I've ever invested in a woman.
    $.75, yes!!! Further proof that not all women are high maintenance!!!
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    Great day in NE Ohio and it will be the same sunny and 60 degrees tomorrow. Rode the fixie for 27 miles on a moderately rolling ride. I'm finally feeling out of shape and am looking forward to building it back up beginning December.
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    Hi,

    Did my 72nd race of 2011 yesterday and was almost DFL (6th out of 7). Turns out you learn something every race or, in my case, you can have a new experience after thousands of races. The day before Thanksgiving I had promised to take my youngest to what has become a yearly father-son pilgrimage to the LA Auto Show. After a series of unfortunate circumstances (none of which decreased our overall enjoyment of the show), we ended up getting home over an hour after I had hoped. I had taken the 55/44 chainring combo off my TT bike and ended up reassembling the bike at about 11:00p with a 5:00a wakeup call awaiting me.

    Got to the race, warmed up on the trainer, raced, and started the 25 mile ride to my parents' house (my sister had driven me to the race and waited for me to finish so I could change wheels, etc -- I am thankful for my sister). During the race I hit unintentionally Z4 on the the 1/2 mile climb just after the start yet I was going pretty slow. I was in the middle of Z3 for the rest of the race but checking my speed much more than usual, I was not going very fast. During my ride to my parents' house I just couldn't get going and after 20 miles I finally stopped on the side of the road to check the bike. To my shock and horror I saw that I had re-threaded the chain OVER the aluminum tab that keeps the chain from jumping off the upper jockey wheel on the rear derailleur.

    Since I use those reusable master links I was able to fix the problem albeit getting my fingers covered with grease. The bike rode MUCH better after that. I think I need to hire a new mechanic.

    Did a 46 mile ride with my club today with 42 miles on tap for tomorrow. I plan to do a somewhat hilly 100K on Sunday. Not sure if this is the best training plan for this time of year but my training always gets messed up in between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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    Sorry, been gone a while. Rode my Diva 29.7 mi. on 11/17. Haven't been on her since (and she's not happy). So tomorrow we ride.

    Last Sunday, the day before c_gallagh turned 58, we ran the Big Sur Half Marathon in 2:17:48. He was right in the middle of the pack in his stats. Our 5.8 mph avg. is slower than what I do when I run alone (sidebar: he's running with his left arm in a sling and a stretchy belt wrapped around him 1-1/2 times to stabilize his arm, after he had a 6" titanium plate + 12 screws inserted in the distal end of his left clavicle 10/), and it was good enough for 54th of 227 women in my age group.

    We spent a couple hours in the Jacuzzi in our room, sipping brandy and reliving the highlights of the race. Since his crash c_gallagh has missed only 4 of our 4x/wk runs, and has ridden his bike every chance he could. I've learned much about bravery, endurance, taking HTFU to a new level, and teamwork since his crash. The man set a high bar and I intend to reach it (without, I hope, breaking bones).

    We're looking at a few 1/2 marathons next year, just to keep us crosstraining. Rest assured, as much as we've grown to appreciate and even enjoy (WTF???) running, it will never be as soul-satisfying as cycling. I'd rather puke at the end of a TT than podium in a run.

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    Way to go RR and c_gallagh!

    Cleave, I can't believe how much you race, and it's great to see - very motivating!

    My ride out to EOP yesterday was truly beautiful. Clouds blanketing the peaks, sun on Canyon lake after some drizzle early in the ride. We'd round a curve and people would gasp at the views. And the riding was also tremendous: 12 people hand picked by the organizer. I tried to stay in my base zones, but with 4K of climbing and my lowest gearing 53/25 (on my race wheels because of the failure of my rear training wheel), I spent a fair amount of time with my HR in the upper zones. And I've finally admitted to myself that I am incapable of doing a group ride and just dropping off the back to keep my effort down. I don't have to be with the mountain goats on the climbs, but I cannot accept dragging along behind everyone else when I'm capable of hanging with the pack. There. I said it. I'm James, and I'm Type A. The only way I'm doing a z2-3 ride is solo, or with a friend who has the same goals for the day. So later today I'm going to drag my wife out for a long easy ride. I'm doing ~200 miles/week right now.

    AJ, we didn't stop to find your dollar bill.

    Side note: This ride had some fast and twisty descents, and I was on my carbon tubulars. The brakes did fine, because I finally solved some bad 'grabbiness' by toeing in the brake shoes. I took a double thickness of a business card, and put it under the back part of the pads as I adjusted them. Now the front of the pads hit the rim first, with the back half only hitting if I have to brake fairly hard. No more groaning sound, and no sudden grab right when stopping. Nice and smooth, and I'm sure it was something I should have already known to do. And now that I finally have the brakes performing, I know that using carbon clinchers for trainers will work just fine. That way, I won't have to change pads when I change wheels, which is a major plus. If I can find some where I don't have to even adjust the pads, that will really be special.

    I also got some great high speed counter-steering practice, which is something I needed. Whoopee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rider View Post
    ran the Big Sur Half Marathon in 2:17:48. and it was good enough for 54th of 227 women in my age group.

    I'd rather puke at the end of a TT than podium in a run.
    Nice finish RR. Love the last comment. We don't want to lose you to bad knees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet View Post
    Nice finish RR. Love the last comment. We don't want to lose you to bad knees.
    Not to worry. Teaching Jazzercise, step & kick-boxing for 15+ years left my knees able to do hard efforts, but not necessarily wanting to. Next to back injuries, knees were my most popular rehabs during my personal training career.

    Running is a calculated risk, one that I'm willing to devote only a certain amount of time and pain to. Cycling's rewards far exceed those of running. Two wheels move the soul. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rider View Post
    Not to worry. Teaching Jazzercise, step & kick-boxing for 15+ years left my knees able to do hard efforts, but not necessarily wanting to. Next to back injuries, knees were my most popular rehabs during my personal training career.

    Running is a calculated risk, one that I'm willing to devote only a certain amount of time and pain to. Cycling's rewards far exceed those of running. Two wheels move the soul. That is all.
    Well, I gotta agree with that! That said, I've still got running in my system (I just started last year) and therefore, I have things to prove to myself (I compete with me, my toughest competitor). I've yet to really advance into cycle competition, I just don't feel I'm good enough or ready enough, but I want to. Track is out, now, but road racing and TT's are definitely in.

    RR smoked that Half Marathon, and can you believe c_gallah? The guy is incredible, talk about HTFU, he defines it. The both of them are incredible athletes, and to be admired - and I do!
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    2012 Cervelo R5 VWD

    I decided to pull the trigger on a new bike. My racing has evolved to hill climbs and timed events for both track and road. So my objective was to get a great climbing road bike. I liked my Cervelo R3 and opted for the latest version of Cervelo's R series and purchased a 2012 R5 VWD. The R5 carries the features of their $9,800 R5ca but is heavier. The R5ca is 689 gm for the 54 cm frame and my R5 is 880 gm for the 58 cm frame.

    Here is the frame and rider before the build. Frame = 880 gm and the Rider = 75,278 gm I thought the 880 gm was an amazing weight for a 58 cm frame and 75,278 gm was not bad for a 6 foot rider.





    The 2012 R5 frames feature taller head tubes. Cervelo claims that is what customers want. It will be okay for me but some racers may prefer more seat to bar drop. Cervelo recommends using a stem with more negative angle to lower the handlebar.

    Here is the completed bike with Williams System 19 wheels, a D/A 12/27 cassette and Conti 4000s tires with 100 gm tubes. The bike without Arundel carbon water bottle cages weighed in at 14.8 pounds and with the cages 15 pounds. For hill climbs, I plan to use my Bontrager Race XXX lite carbon clinchers.



    I opted for the Quarq power meter with a SRAM compact crank set (50/34) and black SRAM red chain rings. With the black rings the crank set seems to disappear into the frame. The pedals are the Dura Ace carbon. Considering our hilly terrain and my preference to spin faster, I like the compact crank set.





    Cervelo features the BBright asymmetrical design which is supposed to be stiffer.



    The seat post is a micro adjusting 3T and the saddle is a white with gray trim Alliante with carbon rails.



    The handle bar is a Ritchey carbon and with matching Ritchey stem. You can see in this shot there is more handlebar drop available but not much.





    Compared to other bikes I looked at, it has a pretty skinny profile but not as aero as the Cervelo S5.



    I looked at a number of wheel set options and selected the Williams System 19s. First, Williams is a sponsor so we get a deal and I like to support our sponsors. Second, I own a set of System 30s that I have beat to death and they are still true and needed no maintenance. I wanted the same wheel build with a lighter rim. I think the 19 mm black rim with the red accent looks very cool and they remind me of wheels that Induran would have used. The claimed weight of the wheels is 1440 gm and weighed 1500 gm on my scale with rim tape. The wheels came with rim tape and I did not want to take it off to weigh the wheels so I am giving Williams a close enough on the claimed weight.

    So how does the bike perform? To sum it up, it is much stiffer than my R3 both laterally and vertically. In fact there is zero flex when I accelerate out of the saddle. At lower speeds the ride is much stiffer than my R3 but as the speed increases the R5 becomes more stable and comfortable. There is more road feel with the R5 and descending is spectacular. My R3 descended okay but not great. Climbing is very nice both in and out of the saddle. Where I notice improvement over the R3 is out of the saddle climbing steep switchbacks.

    I picked up the bike on Wednesday and rode Friday, Saturday and Sunday for a total of 130 miles that included a ride to the coast over Skyline and back (lots of climbing). I felt great on the bike and the ride was perfect for me.

    Cervelo did a great job refining the R3 to improve handling and road feel.
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    Wow... one heck of an N+1. Gorgeous and fast; what's not to like?
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    Hermes, H***S***, what a gorgeous bike! Congratulations! You really thought it out, thanks for going over your reasoning. I must say that I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Cervelos, they're just just beautiful bikes - I'm envious! Ride it well and enjoy it!
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    That is a beautiful bike. It was great to hear your reasoning process and understand your choice. That bike is going to carry you to some wonderful victories!

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    Very nice bike Hermes. The colors and accents are as perfect as your reasoning for the bike change. Ride up, over and beyond!
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    Thanks for the kudos. After doing two hill climb races and some harder training this holiday weekend, I am taking it easy on the bike for a few days and focus on strength training.

    Props to the runners for some great results. I used to compete in 10K races and ran track back in the Jurassic period when T-Rex ruled the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarals View Post
    Well, I gotta agree with that! That said, I've still got running in my system (I just started last year) and therefore, I have things to prove to myself (I compete with me, my toughest competitor). I've yet to really advance into cycle competition, I just don't feel I'm good enough or ready enough, but I want to. Track is out, now, but road racing and TT's are definitely in.

    RR smoked that Half Marathon, and can you believe c_gallah? The guy is incredible, talk about HTFU, he defines it. The both of them are incredible athletes, and to be admired - and I do!
    Thanks for the kind words. Flattery will get you everywhere.

    Meanwhile, quit selling yourself short and just sign up for some TTs or RRs or the Early Bird series in Jan. You're an athlete and deservedly so. You do tri's, track races (I take the credit for nudging you there) and a road cyclist. I have a virtual 2x4 I can use to whack upside the head if you need to be reminded of your amazing accomplishments. Just let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Thanks for the kudos. After doing two hill climb races and some harder training this holiday weekend, I am taking it easy on the bike for a few days and focus on strength training.

    Props to the runners for some great results. I used to compete in 10K races and ran track back in the Jurassic period when T-Rex ruled the earth.
    Thanks for the props. This is new to us. Chris never ran (except to catch a bus) so that he did it with one arm impresses me. (Disclaimer: I'm his wife. It's OK, I gave him a black HTFU wristband last year, as if he needed it.)

    I'm drooling over your bike, H. It's a fine machine, worthy of its rider.
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    I've upgraded my rollers and now can jump out of the saddle and sprint without crashing into something in the basement family room. Using a sheet of plywood, bungee cords, some hardware and skateboard wheels the modification was very easy. The 6 skateboard wheels are attached to each of the 6 legs on the rollers. The 32Ē x 8í plywood sheet allows the bungee cords to be attached to the board and stretched to the front and back wheels in a suspended state. When riding the rollers a limiter is when the bike rocks between the back two rollers and launches off the rollers. The bungee cords allow the bike to move forwards and back absorbing the shock and allowing me to hammer. In the past I found it difficult to go OTS at a cadence higher than 65 Ė 70, now I can easily hit 90+ and with work Iíll even be able to sustain a higher cadence.

    Knowing how much I sweat while riding the rollers and trainer I decided to stain and varnish the plywood for sanitary and aesthetic reasons. Hopefully, when a buddy is around, I will get a picture or even video snippet of the setup. Iíll ask but, I doubt my wife will take any images after this past summerís TT position picture fiasco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rider View Post
    Thanks for the kind words. Flattery will get you everywhere. .....I have a virtual 2x4 I can use to whack upside the head if you need to be reminded of your amazing accomplishments. Just let me know.
    RR - swing, PLEASE!!! I need it, I'm in a "motivational funk" right now...

    Hey, my Fuji Track Pro is on eBay right now - 50CM, XS, if you'd like to look at it.... (SOLD IT)...
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    AJ, I had my TT bike on the trainer night before last, and when I stood to "hammer" I hammered the bike right off the trainer and into my motorcycle! I'm okay, my head broke my fall ;~)! However, not a mark on me, the TT bike, or my Suzuki. I guess I should have checked the tightness on the skewer clamp a little closer... Oops... :~D
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    AJ: we want - no, we NEED to see photo's of that!
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    AJ, It looks like you made a set o emotion rollers. Are the rollers easier to ride now that the bike can move fore and aft?
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    AZTR, I will post a few images of the equipment and also try and concvince my wife to break her vow to never, ever take a picture of me again.

    Hermes, The rollers make it easier to "hide hard" without constantly maintaining the balance needed to avoid the forward/backward rocking. Without the suspension it is very difficult to spin up the watts/effort quickly. Now I can be seated and just hammer the pedals without metering out the effort. I did 1hr on the setup yesterday and also found it easier to get higher cadence. I spent the last 6 or 7 minutes in the 110- 115 range and noticed the bike going forward and backwards when I got to the upper end of my range due to inequities in the strokes. In the past I would really have to concentrate on smoothness to be able to up the cadence and would get to a point of instability. The better stability will really come in handy when Iím scheduled for L6 intervals later in the season. As my indoor conditioning ramps up I'll be doing 130+ cadences on the rollers for extended time. I have found that clipping the 2nd foot in is a little difficult due to the bike not yet having stability from moving wheels, trying to hit a spinning pedal, and the whole unit moving to and fro. I think that is something I'll adapt to quickly and may even put egg beaters on the bike which are very easy to clip in.
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    As promised, here are some images of the roller system. Notice the guide wheels on the top of the front roller. I just added them today and they really work well when the front wheel drifts over.







    I even got my wife to break her vow and take a few pictures.



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