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    VanceMac, two years ago would you have thought that you'd be racing on the track on consecutive days?

    Glad that you raced well and had fun.
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    Back to back omniums are for the elite guys with the big engines and raging hormones. At least you score one out of three. Nice racing.
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    Surf City Cyclery Criterium

    Another first today! I completely missed the start of the 50+ race. A friend told me the wrong time and both of us missed the start. Not his fault, I should have known the time. I've come close to missing the start of a race but never missed one until today.

    Before that I raced in Masters 55+/60+ event. The course was a bit tight and bumpy but generally it was OK and we hadn't raced on this particular course in over 5 years. I was feeling decent but wasn't in a position or frame of mind to cover early breaks. About halfway through there was a slight lull right after closing down a break. I took a flyer and hoped that someone would come with me but no-go. I kept at it for almost a lap but the first person to get on my wheel had the rest of the field on his wheel.

    Recovered and then with 3 to go I thought I'd try to help our sprinter. Got to the front and gradually upped the pace. I guess it wasn't gradual enough because the next thing I knew I had a gap. Again, I kept up the pace to try to get things lined out so that our sprinter would get caught in a schmozzle. I kind of worked but as soon as I stopped pulling everyone else sat up. Slid back for the last two laps and finished at the back of the main field. Our sprinter ended up 7th and Mark Hoffenberg won again.

    After missing the 50+ race I paid close attention to the start time for the 45+ race. It started painfully fast. Turns out from my Garmin data that the first four laps were averaging over 28 MPH. After that 26-27 MPH laps felt "easy." I never got anywhere near the front. I was "battling" a bunch of people in the last dozen positions trying to move up. We were pretty much just swapping positions. It would have taken a concerted effort from me to really move up and at this point I didn't have it in me.

    Thurlow Rogers and two others broke away early and stayed away. I think Thurlow ended up second while I was field fodder. I don't think I was DFL.
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    Cleave, good work! Would you really have ridden three races if you had made the 50+?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    VanceMac, two years ago would you have thought that you'd be racing on the track on consecutive days?
    Zero chance. I would have thought it more likely that the Pope resigns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Back to back omniums are for the elite guys with the big engines and raging hormones. At least you score one out of three. Nice racing.
    I wish I had any of those three! It was a blast though. Eight events in 15 hours!

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    Impressive.

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    Nice racing Cleave... as usual. Some day we'll get you to honor us with your decades of racing experience to a track event.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    Thurlow Rogers and two others broke away early and stayed away. I think Thurlow ended up second while I was field fodder.
    He's a monster. Starting to look his age (and maybe put on a few lbs this year?), but obviously hasn't lost a step yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    I dunno Cleave - sure looks like a breakaway to me...
    He's good at those!


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    ^^^ Oy! That was one of my two times off the front that I mentioned in my race report. It looks like turn 1 so that was close to the end of my 1 mile of being off the front on my first deliberate attack. Of course I'm trying to attack a field with two former World Champions (KK and Mark) who have also been National Champions and a current and multi-time National Champion, Malcolm Hill. Malcolm won the 50-54 Criterium at Nationals last September. I'm glad that it looks like they are working a bit to bring me back. I guess attacking > sitting in.
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    That's a great shot, Cleave.

    I'd never guess Thurlow was such a great just by casually sizing up that photo. I see he gets a huge amount of respect from the look on the face of the rider shaking his hand.
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    6th in the TT today. Rain made the dirt section interesting, along with the headwind on the climb. Happy with the result, at least the TT bike is coming around.

    Thurlow crushed everyone. 2nd was 20s down and I was 45s.

    With this being an omnium it puts the sprinters into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    With this being an omnium it puts the sprinters into play.
    Which puts big M into play, or is this with the other group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Which puts big M into play, or is this with the other group.
    He got points for 12th so he's an option. Funny, he thought things were faster this year than last. I looked at last year's time from the guys and thought I really sucked and should quit. Looked at the power file and thought "that's pretty OK"...

    Then I saw the results and Thurlow was 40+ seconds slower today.

    Breathed a sigh of relief.
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    You are in a lot better shape than you portray. Give them hell.

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    Ex, wet but no hail during your ride? Sounds like you're in a good position to pounce.

    I'm kind of shocked that Thurlow is riding as fast as he is because he looked kind of thick around the middle last week -- yes, I know he was in a successful break last Sunday. I guess good genes can overcome some deficits.

    I heard Hoffenberg won the 55+ TT. He'll be racing with you the rest of the weekend but scored separately.
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    Down goes Thurlow, and another guy above me on GC. Messy race with several crashes. Guy clipped a pedal on the 2nd to last turn right in front of me (I was set up perfect) so I ended up in the wind the entire sprint playing catch up. 7th. Big M 4th, broke his chain a few feet from the line.

    Should be knocking on the podium door, only two guys finished ahead of me that might have passed me in the omnium standings. Race, I am told, was fast, but it seemed easy to me. Hello legs.

    Circuit race tomorrow.

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    As Ex informed me and I then saw on FB, a teammate of mine went down in that crash as well, on his shoulder. He doesn't think anything is broken, but will get an X-ray Monday.

    Why am I not surprised M would break a chain? He should probably carry a spare in his jersey pocket.

    Great to see you riding so strong, Ex. Way to go...
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    Ex keep it up. We like easy.
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    Cccx #3

    I rode the dread CCCX circuit course, W4, combined field with EVERYONE. It was a large field, more than 15. I warmed up on the road for an hour before the start. When I got to the line, I was loose and ready. The group went off fairly leisurely, but the pace came up right after that, and I was sitting in mid field. We got to an exposed section of the course and there was a 12 MPH quartering headwind from our right. The field strung out and went echelon right, and of course, I was on the wrong side! I fixed that, and actually moved up a couple places in the process. We started the painful CCCX Climb, 6% average, and I was still sitting comfortably mid pack. My average speed on the climb was 12 MPH, which for me, was phenomenal! Luck plays a role, and a gal maybe two bike lengths directly in front of me dropped her chain. I swerved left to miss her, everyone got safely around her, but I lost places - lots of them. By the time I got going again, I was gapped. There were other gals behind me, I don't remember how many, and I dug (too) deep trying to chase (wrong move) and trying to stay ahead of them (wrong again). They actually passed me on the descent, and I tried to grab a wheel as they went by and missed. I made up some ground on the rollers, strong on the hills again (for me), but they got away. Another rider was behind me, and we traded back and forth for the next two laps (she just didn't get the concept of working together). On the last lap, she went around me on the CCCX climb, and I just could not close on her for the rest of the lap - I did get to within striking distance once, on the rollers, but she moved away after that. I just didn't have the end game endurance (engine) that younger rider did. I buried myself for the finish, and crossed the line 100 feet behind the rider in front of me, and only a 1/2 lap behind the main group.

    What was awesome was when the E men would come by out on the course. Strong and fast, good heavens! I was mesmerized!

    Average speed was 15.3, 17 on the first lap. TSS was 98.8, NP was 155. Heart rate got up there, 160, a few times, and averaged 145. I felt good, but MISTAKES! My confidence is coming up. I really believe I can finish better and higher the further along I go. OMG, this is fun!
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    Well done, Sara. As long as it's fun you'll keep coming back.

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    Did two Circuit Races today: M55+ and Cat4, with a 50' break between them. I attacked the 55+, didn't get away, and was promptly dropped on the ensuing climb. i got a good workout. :-) Tried to just hang with the kids in the Cat4, but the legs were dead, and I was dropped on the first climb.

    Still a long way to go to get back in racing form, but I'll get there. The workout today will certainly help.
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    50+ Misc Race Report Thread

    AzT, it's so good to see you out there! Now, about that "kids" part...
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    They were all, like, you know, 16. They looked like it, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    They were all, like, you know, 16. They looked like it, anyway.
    Now you know how I feel!
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    Good job, Sara.

    It's funny. In the P/1/2/3 race, coming up the hill to take 1 to go, I was working my way forward to get in position for the last lap, when a young girl shoved me into the curb. It cost me about 10 places. We did our warmdown laps together. No harm, no foul, just racing. Turns out she won the women's race, which was pretty well stacked.

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