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Old 05-18-17, 11:24 PM   #5051
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Results are up for the LAVRA. I beat both Mark R and Reed S in the 500. I have been racing against those two guys since 2010 (same age group). In 2010, Reed S won the 500 meters at Track Worlds in Anadia Portugal and I competed there as well and placed somewhere in the bottom 3rd. I have been off those two guys by a second for the last couple of years and we were .5 seconds apart at Nationals in Seattle at Merrymore where they both beat me. It only took 7 years to close the gap.

And in other news, our team did a 4.00.389 3k team pursuit which is a PR for me in that event.
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Nice racing, @Hermes!

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It only took 7 years to close the gap.
In another 7 years you should be killing them.

I didn't look at where I finished in any of the events. This one was all about training.
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@Hermes, sweet!!!
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Thanks for the props.
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For those that haven't done them, 500's are difficult to get right. Very technique driven and hard to be consistent at. I've done 1-2 decent ones and a whole lot of stinkers.
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They sure do hurt, too....


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2017 SCNCA State Championship ITT, W50-54, 1st of 3! Woo hoo, first jersey win!

Well, can I just first off say, "Wow"? Picked up a road bike for the first time 4 years ago, overweight and out of shape. Loved it instantly. And look where it's led me. Lucky me.


I have been racing well of late, PRed my last three TTs and pretty much hitting every number in training. So in a good place going into this State TT and feeling reasonably confident. A 40K TT is just a difficult thing, though, and I haven't done many this year, so you never know.


Then this week, I was watching the race registrations and the people I expected to race with (and know enough that I understand their strengths/weakness) were all suddenly elsewhere. Two aged out of my age-group (really? damn, you ladies look fab, bikes will do that I guess), one was racing a tandem today, one is a cat 1 it turns out, and so on. Only two women besides me in the 50-54 age-group and I didn't know either of them. Yikes, I got a little rattled.


Eventually, I figured them out. Two cat 4 women from a race team out of Aliso Viejo. Mostly crits and road races, with only a few TTs here and there, mostly as part of stage races. Four years of race results to look at. One seemed beatable, I could see her FTP on Strava and I have 15-20 watts on her. She turned out to be my 1-min woman. The other one, though, she looked like she could be a problem- beat me by 2 min at the Santiago Cyn TT last Nov. Just finished 5th in a bad-ass 60 mile climbing road race. Second place in the GMR hill climb TT last year. Those are some good results.


But I parsed her out on Strava enough to figure out that climbing is her thing (the State TT course is flat) and she rides without power or HR. Those facts combined with the crit/road race focus suggested to me that we'd be pretty even. She was my 30-second woman.


Looking at the forecast, I wasn't that happy- no wind (which makes this course slower) and a little warm- upper 70s by the end, doesn't sound bad but I got the fast (ie unvented) TT helmet, in black, and the Belgian (ie kinda of heavy for warmth) skinsuit, also in black. I have zero heat-adaptation right now and generally am not great in the heat. Normally this course ends with a tailwind, 0.6% uphill leg. No tailwind + a little hot for me + uphill + end-of-race fatigue = be careful not to blow up on leg 5.


Weirdness at the start. I showed up 3 minutes ahead of my start time and rode a little in the opposite direction to get in the right gear and all of a sudden they were calling for my number. Starters were messed up as to time and they wound up starting people early (!)- lots of freaked out people. I literally got my second leg clipped in for my held start at the exact moment my count-down ended. Amazingly, I was completely non-plussed by this. Eh, **** happens. But I never got to see the women I was chasing, so I didn't know what they looked like. That would have been very helpful.


Zero wind at the start, although during my warm up I had about 4 mph of wind in the cross/headwind direction. My game plan was to start very conservatively in order to save myself for the end, I expected the 2nd half of this TT to be much harder. The exception being if I felt any headwind, I'd kick it up a notch.


This course is a big rectangle in the desert and you ride all four legs of the rectangle once and then finish by riding the first leg another time- so five legs. I caught one of the women in my age-group who started ahead of me towards the end of the first leg. I couldn't see her number but the kit was from the right team. I didn't think it could possibly be my 30-sec woman, no way should I catch her that quickly. Could it be my 1-min woman? I was trying to think through the start list- who started before us? Faster or slower people? (Theoretically faster- it was younger women and category women, the women 55 and up race a shorter distance and start later) Anyone else from that race team? I couldn't remember. Yes, in the end it was my 1 minute woman.


On the second leg, I could see a woman ahead with a nice TT position and figured that was my 30-sec woman. Don't chase, be patient. Blew past her (nice stuff!) but she was in the wrong kit. I knew from Strava-stalking my 30 sec woman that her race team is a big part of her life, unlikely she'd fail to race in the kit. Turns out I was right, she wasn't my rabbit after all.


I'm looking at my power and its conservative as planned, everything is as it should be. Turn onto the 3rd leg and I think I can see my 30-sec woman- black kit with yellow trim, just like the other one. I'm closing on her. All is well. Don't chase, be patient.


Five miles later, I catch her and can see her number, she IS my 30 second woman. Thirty-three minutes into an approx. 1 hour race, I breeze past her. Unexpected. Is she toying with me? Maybe she's gonna chase me down. I keep to my pace to create some space and then glance back. Nope, she sitting back there doing the same old same old. We're almost to the turn for leg 4 and I am still hoping she'll do the crit thing and chase, blowing herself up. I decide to just stay cool until the next turn.


I turn on to leg 4 and glance back again. She's nowhere in sight. What now? This is when I'm supposed to unleash some fury on this course. I feel pretty good. Ave power still below threshold. I don't feel too hot. Do I go for an beautiful power file but maybe risk blowing up myself on leg 5 if I get a headwind and its hot? Or do I go for the win and just keep loping along?


In the end, I decide I really want the win and the jersey. So I just phoned in the rest of the TT, finishing a few watts below threshold. Totally not what I expected. Final time was around a minute ahead of second place (so she did make up some time) and eight minutes ahead of third place.


Just extraordinary, I had a pretty wacky year on a personal level and this State TT was the only A race on my schedule. Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. Kudos to @Racer Ex to managing my head through all that and delivering me to my race fit and ready to go. Just gives you tremendous confidence when you know you are very well-prepared and its amazing how much confidence adds to your race performance. Its been a zero-to-sixty kind of experience, working with Ex- pay attention and you will wind up with a level of knowledge that is way beyond your racing years. Just a very fortunate relationship. As I said above: lucky me.



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@Heathpack Congrats champ.
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They sure do hurt, too....

ouch. kudos for going through those hellish anaerobic efforts. And you are standing, to boot. i'd have been keeled over or, worse yet, genuflecting before a trash can
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Well, can I just first off say, "Wow"? Picked up a road bike for the first time 4 years ago, overweight and out of shape. Loved it instantly. And look where it's led me. Lucky me.


I have been racing well of late, PRed my last three TTs and pretty much hitting every number in training. So in a good place going into this State TT and feeling reasonably confident. A 40K TT is just a difficult thing, though, and I haven't done many this year, so you never know.


Then this week, I was watching the race registrations and the people I expected to race with (and know enough that I understand their strengths/weakness) were all suddenly elsewhere. Two aged out of my age-group (really? damn, you ladies look fab, bikes will do that I guess), one was racing a tandem today, one is a cat 1 it turns out, and so on. Only two women besides me in the 50-54 age-group and I didn't know either of them. Yikes, I got a little rattled.
well done. one thing to note is that you could stalk people by using http://road-results.com/
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Awesome race, Heathpack!! Can't wait to see you in your state champ jersey!
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@Heathpack, winning THAT jersey is a feeling like no other, isn't it? I am SO proud of you!!! C H A M P !!!!
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Thanks all! This morning (of course) I am regretting phoning it in. I shoulda smashed it. Ah well, makes it easier to PR it next year, I guess.


Cool thing is that I met a woman at Santiago Cyn TT last week- member of Canyon Velo, a club with a lot of TTists. She's a spin instructor. Santiago was her first every TT and I finished 4-5 seconds ahead of her, that's pretty good for her first outing. (Although she's been working with experienced TT people for awhile.) Yesterday was her second ever TT and she won the woman's cat 4. She's hooked on TTs.


Next week she's doing the TTT State Championship on a mixed team with Canyon Velo. I told her she was lucky, I'd love to do it but don't know anybody. Her response was they wish they had known- the second women is not really a TT person (I know. This is not necessarily bad.) and they had been looking for another TT woman. So "maybe next year". We exchanged info. Hopefully it works out.
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Chapeau, Well done!

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Super well done, @Heathpack! Dedication speaks volumes.
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Thanks all! This morning (of course) I am regretting phoning it in. I shoulda smashed it. Ah well, makes it easier to PR it next year, I guess.


Cool thing is that I met a woman at Santiago Cyn TT last week- member of Canyon Velo, a club with a lot of TTists. She's a spin instructor. Santiago was her first every TT and I finished 4-5 seconds ahead of her, that's pretty good for her first outing. (Although she's been working with experienced TT people for awhile.) Yesterday was her second ever TT and she won the woman's cat 4. She's hooked on TTs.


Next week she's doing the TTT State Championship on a mixed team with Canyon Velo. I told her she was lucky, I'd love to do it but don't know anybody. Her response was they wish they had known- the second women is not really a TT person (I know. This is not necessarily bad.) and they had been looking for another TT woman. So "maybe next year". We exchanged info. Hopefully it works out.
Time for a team?

Steady progression, you. You're a force now. I'm loving this, I've been waiting for you to do it. I knew you would!!
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Steady progression, you. You're a force now. I'm loving this, I've been waiting for you to do it. I knew you would!!
Thanks @sarals. It would be nice to be part of a team but I'd prefer one I could actually ride with regularly. Canyon Velo is based way south of me, probably 90 minutes. So a guest appearance would be more likely.

The rest of it: nice of you to say. I appreciate it.
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Great work @Heathpack. Must be a pretty awesome feeling!
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Great work @Heathpack. Must be a pretty awesome feeling!


Its awesome, yes, and kind of a relief.


A relief because, human nature being what it is, you know that some people who are ostensibly rooting for you are halfway wishing you will fail. In my case, a small number of my recreational riding friends, who don't really approve of the way I ride now (more solo rides/workouts, less just noodling around on a bike with them, more pushing hard during their group rides, etc)- some part of those people would like to see you reach for a big goal and not make it, that would validate what they are doing and give me my comeuppance to boot. And lol, another part of those same people want you to succeed, so that they can sort-of take some credit for your success, as if they were instrumental in making it happen. This is the main reason it would be nice to be a part of a race team, even though I'm doing only TTs and really don't need one- it would just be nice to race your bike and continually improve and set ambitious goals and have your friends see that as normal.


The awesome aspect is because when you set an ambitious goal you never really know if you *are* maybe trying to reach past what it realistic for you. Even though this honestly wasn't my most challenging race ever, somehow that label "state champion" gives you permission to have even ambitious goals and a little more wiggle room for failure.


So that's how I feel: relieved first and happy about it second!
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human nature being what it is, you know that some people who are ostensibly rooting for you are halfway wishing you will fail. In my case, a small number of my recreational riding friends, who don't really approve of the way I ride now (more solo rides/workouts, less just noodling around on a bike with them, more pushing hard during their group rides, etc)- some part of those people would like to see you reach for a big goal and not make it, that would validate what they are doing and give me my comeuppance to boot. And lol, another part of those same people want you to succeed, so that they can sort-of take some credit for your success, as if they were instrumental in making it happen.
There is a lot packed into these sentences.
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Fiesta Island 20K ITT, Masters 60+ 3 of 4.



There is always teamwork in an ITT. I had to help my teammate onto the somewhat precarious top step of the podium and he desperately needs to work on getting his arms higher. We will work on that. In addition, I had to pin on his number.

Conditions for the time trial were excellent for the Fiesta Island course although I suspect there are certain wind contains that may be faster. I did hear some racers state that it was more humid than normal. 20K is measured by 3 laps around the island and my plan was to negative split the race riding each lap a little faster which I accomplished.

It was a fun day racing.
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