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Old 05-05-14, 12:11 PM   #2051
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Thanx guys. Like Sara said, glad everyone here kept the rubber side down.

Hope everyone has a festive Cinco de Mayo. It's my daughter's 11th birthday, so it's always a fun day for our family.
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Thanx guys. Like Sara said, glad everyone here kept the rubber side down.

Hope everyone has a festive Cinco de Mayo. It's my daughter's 11th birthday, so it's always a fun day for our family.
Happy Birthday to your daughter!!
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Koppenberg 45/4's

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17th of ~60
dropped by the lead group on the last hill; best of the rest...exactly as per usual.

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circuit race; 4's do 4 laps of approximately 15 minutes. Front half of each lap features a several mile ~2% dirt road climb, culminated by a 150 yard stretch at 17%. Back half of lap, starting at the top of the 17% climb, is a 1 mile dirt road flat or slightly downhill, then pavement that is downhill with a 1' uphill bump.

Some people don't like the dirt, others of us think this is one of the most fun and interesting races of the season.

Some tip-overs/dismounts always clog up the steep road climb and it's important to be in front of those because at the top people hammer on the slight downhill road and gaps are always created. So my plan, like everybody's, was to be near the front at the bottom of the climb. Which, in turn, makes the approach to the climb interesting.

I succeeded in being near the front on the climb on the first lap, and made the selection at the top. The second lap I was in the middle of the lead group going up the climb, and on top had to work hard to rejoin. The third lap I was 2/3 the way back of the lead group on the climb and when on top barely made it back on. The fourth and last lap, I knew I needed to move up before the climb, but just couldn't, and ended up at the back of the lead group going up the climb, and, on top, couldn't catch back on. I passed one or two stragglers on the way back to the finish and ended up 17th.

My quarq is whacked so my power numbers are worthless, but my heart rate reached a number I haven't seen in 5 years -- and for extended periods of time. So I'm pretty happy with my effort.

I just can't climb, at least not as well as the leaders.
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Nice tom. I'm in the "don't like the dirt" camp so I stayed away. Exciting race, though.
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Nicely done, rwt. Good job on mostly sticking to the plan you set for yourself.

Tomfoolery on dirt that people tip over on. Not my cup of tea.
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Good job rwt. At least you know what to work on. And get that Quarq fixed. Quarq has excellent customer service.
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Diverse past week for me! Local Crit on Wednesday night, Velodrome on Saturday, MTB race on Sunday (on a CX bike).

Crit: Bear Creek Crit series 4/5. Tail wind finish (usually a headwind). Knew the sprint would start a little earlier than usual. Plan was to hide the whole race, get to the front with one to go, hit it hard at the "curve". Avoided 2 crashes and followed the plan to some success. I was in 4th place going into the final corner and nailed it. Seated (long) sprint all the way to the finish. Passed one guy and was caught by 2 strong sprinters. Finished a half wheel back from 4th. Placed 5th out of 63.

Velodrome: 200m TT and Match Sprints M35+ cat4: TT took 3rd at 13:53....time was nothing spectacular. As the bracket played out, I ended up having 6 match sprints. Won 4, lost 2. Lost to the guys who eventually placed 1st and 2nd overall. I placed 3rd overall and won $40.

MTB: Big Ring Challenge cat3 M40-49. This was "just for fun" as I don't race MTB often. Actually don't even own a MTB. Did the race on my CX bike as it's pretty non-technical and flowing (hence the name). Goal:top 10. Lined up and got lots of "oh yeah" and "right on, cyclcross" type comments. We're off....had a good sprint (see the above ) and entered the woods at about 6th or 7th. Held it for about 1/2 the course. I started getting slow in the corners as they were a little sandy and the skinny tires just didn't have the float. Got passed by a couple guys here and there. Hit a tree on a slight downhill and flew off the bike and to the left. No damage.....remount...onward. Next: Chain popped off the front der. for some unknown reason (random non-technical part of the trail). Lost 3 spots for that one. Then 1 mile from the finish, I washed out on a sandy 90* turn. Slight chest/faceplant onto the trail. No damage....onward. Rolled across the finish line 19th out of 50. Fun race....would like to do it on a real MTB as I think my 3 mishaps could have been prevented. May have gotten the top 10 if so. Fun week!
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Boulder TT Series #1 = 2nd / 6.

This is a point-to-point 12 mile TT, Lyons to Boulder, first Wednesday of the month all summer. There were 9 pre-reged, but the weather must have kept the smart people away, including the one gal who often wins. So, not a stacked field, but 2nd in any TT, I'll take it!!

I warmed up by riding the course backwards, and as I was leaving my car to head out, the radio was playing the Emergency Broadcast System - tornado touched down in Greeley (not that far away).---- i'm like WTF am I doing??? It was black as night with thunderheads, but not actually raining. Got to the venue, it started raining then hailing, and I hid in the gazebo hoping for the hail & rain to stop rather than completing my warmup and getting soaked. Luckily it stopped by my start-time, but the roads were puddled with water. So, not much intensity in the warmup, then stand around shivering for half an hour... yech. It went pretty well, though. The course is slightly scary traffic-wise, there are a couple of places that cars can turn across it, and even though they have police out, I found it hard to keep the speed up in the aero bars with cars poised to potentially turn in front of me. Also, it was so dark out, I felt kind of invisible.

Power numbers are crap, not sure if I have my FTP set wrong, my calibration was whack b/c of the changing temps, my FTP is just lower on my TT bike. Might have to do a formal LT test on the TT bike soon.... not sure when I'll be able to do that!
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Valygrl, magic formula? Dark, wet, not much of a warmup? Anyway, congratulations! STRONG work, strong ride!!
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Boulder TT Series #1 = 2nd / 6.

Power numbers are crap, not sure if I have my FTP set wrong, my calibration was whack b/c of the changing temps, my FTP is just lower on my TT bike. Might have to do a formal LT test on the TT bike soon.... not sure when I'll be able to do that!
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Nice.

Could be all of the above on the power. Not uncommon to lose some wattage on the TT bike depending on position and how much you train on it.
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Boulder TT Series #1 = 2nd / 6.

This is a point-to-point 12 mile TT, Lyons to Boulder, first Wednesday of the month all summer. There were 9 pre-reged, but the weather must have kept the smart people away, including the one gal who often wins. So, not a stacked field, but 2nd in any TT, I'll take it!!

I warmed up by riding the course backwards, and as I was leaving my car to head out, the radio was playing the Emergency Broadcast System - tornado touched down in Greeley (not that far away).---- i'm like WTF am I doing??? It was black as night with thunderheads, but not actually raining. Got to the venue, it started raining then hailing, and I hid in the gazebo hoping for the hail & rain to stop rather than completing my warmup and getting soaked. Luckily it stopped by my start-time, but the roads were puddled with water. So, not much intensity in the warmup, then stand around shivering for half an hour... yech. It went pretty well, though. The course is slightly scary traffic-wise, there are a couple of places that cars can turn across it, and even though they have police out, I found it hard to keep the speed up in the aero bars with cars poised to potentially turn in front of me. Also, it was so dark out, I felt kind of invisible.

Power numbers are crap, not sure if I have my FTP set wrong, my calibration was whack b/c of the changing temps, my FTP is just lower on my TT bike. Might have to do a formal LT test on the TT bike soon.... not sure when I'll be able to do that!
Well done, congrats.
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Darn it, Ex, your FS bikes are too big for me....
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Nice job valygrl.
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No podium in sight at the end, just giant thunderclouds with lightning and rain. I didn't stick even stick around to find out how I did, I was freezing and just wanted a shower and dry clothes.

I think the magic formula might be "show up to the races that the good TT riders don't show up to." I guess I'll find out next month, hopefully the weather will be better.
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Way to go, Valygrl.
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Nice Valygrl. Podium = excellent.
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No podium in sight at the end, just giant thunderclouds with lightning and rain. I didn't stick even stick around to find out how I did, I was freezing and just wanted a shower and dry clothes.

I think the magic formula might be "show up to the races that the good TT riders don't show up to." I guess I'll find out next month, hopefully the weather will be better.
I subscribe to that formula. Sometimes it even works for me.
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Well done, valygrl! Nasty weather to be riding a bike. Good job putting a good ride down.
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I'll put this here instead of my individual racing thread, since it was more for training than anything else. I even did strength work yesterday after my opener.

South Mountain HC/TT; M60+; 7 starters; 5.5 miles, 1.2K Gain

I was mid-pack last year in 50+, and my goal was to try and budge that up. I tried hard to be smooth, treat it like the TT it is, and have something left for the final big climb, which is the steepest section. It's tough, and you can lose a LOT of time there if you've blown a gasket. You then have a little dip and can carry some momentum into a rise to the line. There are a couple of very fast sections, so I wore my TT helmet and took the battle cages off the bike (Giant Propel aero road bike). I was the last starter in M60+, with the 50+ women behind us, so I was planning on seeing whom I could catch, and didn't think I'd be passed. Sexist me. The winner of the women's 50+ came by a bit more than halfway up, ultimately beating my time by about a minute. Heck of a ride on her part. It's a 24-25' ride for me, so I targeted power in my 20' FTP range. I didn't hold that, and wasn't very strong in the final climb. Not totally blown, but not as a strong as I was in that section last year. My time wasn't quite as fast as last year, but I managed a 4th: "in the dirt", as the saying goes. The three who beat me crushed it, with 3rd almost 3 minutes faster than me, while I beat my teammate in 4th by 20". The top three are TT guys who are head and shoulders above the rest of us in these sorts of races. Our team had 3 in the 60+, finishing 4-5-6, so I won the team challenge. :-)

This is the best run race on our calendar. The team has a huge number of volunteers, helping with everything, and cheering you on in the tough sections. They are there with a cold bottle of water and help staying upright as you cross the line. They even have a "puke zone". Then they hold a raffle, as part of the awards, giving away a cruiser bike. This year there were two. Almost everyone stays around for the awards, which is nice, and there is food galore as you wait (briefly) for the results. Awesome job on their part. Makes a hard challenge even more fun.

Oh, and a 16yo kid won Cat1, setting a race record of 17:55. His racing age is 16, but I believe he is still 15. Huge talent.

EDIT: Just got an email from TrainingPeaks. Based on Andy Coggan's calculations, applied to this race, I should bump my FTP up 7 watts from where it's currently set. I think I'll let coach Ex decide that.
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Coach Ex will bump it 17. Good job.
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AzT, nice! Really nice!! Smart riding, as always.
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Bay Area Senior Games, 5K ITT and 40K Road Race

This race featured very small fields, and the course was the CCCX course. Very, very hilly - not my forte. My plan was do one thing. Try to beat NH, the only other 60 - 64 woman there, in both the ITT and the RR. My team mate, HF, was there as well, and I had good odds she'd be the overall winner, and she was. She has become an exceptional rider. Me? I think I'm going backwards. I've ridden this course better than I did today.

5K ITT. This was my fifth time trial, ever. I had thought through the course, visualized what I thought I needed to do and where. I was nervous, as always, but reasonably confident I'd have a good ride. The warmup was to protocol (Ex's writeup), and went exactly to plan. I got to the line two minutes before my start, so I was warmed and ready when the countdown came. The start was not done with a holder, it was a road bike start, and then clip in. Nit wit me missed the clipin, smacked my left shin with the pedal (I do that to myself every few months whether I need to or not), and lost a few precious seconds there. I did get rolling and got up to speed smartly, accelerating to a good pace. I went up a gear higher than I thought I could sustain, felt the lactic start to burn, then changed down and spun up. I held that pace to the bottom of the first climb, and then didn't, as it seemed to me, loose all that much momentum on that hill. I even passed the rider who went off in front on me on that climb, and that felt good. A short descent follows that climb, and then there is a hard 90 right turn, and immediately following that turn are a series of ascending rollers, 8% average grade, but they are short. This morning, not only did I have to contend with the rollers, but there was a 15 MPH wind swirling around on them. I felt okay going up them, got right to the knife edge of blowing, but kept the balance teetering on that edge. I'd recover a tad on the flatter spots and then dive back into the pain cave on the next incline. Even so, my speed up those rollers wasn't what I wanted to see.. I hit on the top of the last roller of the first set (there are two sets), and as a result carried what I thought was good speed and momentum into the last roller. I was better on that hill, holding higher speed (I can't see my power, small numbers and I don't wear my glasses) all the way to the top. I spun up and tried hard to bury myself on the flat following that roller, and held 22 MPH all the way to the finish, which was on top of another roller. My time was 12:13 for 5K. NH, right behind me, beat me by 43 seconds. Room for a lot of improvement on my part.

40K RR. I rode my CAAD 10 for this race, and I decided to use my Cosmic Carbones with the IRC tubeless tires, which meant no power. I also had a 11t - 28 cassette on those wheels. I'd been training with a 12t - 25, so I was happy to have the lower gear if I needed it. I did a 20 minute warmup on the road, arriving at the line just three minutes from the whistle. Good timing again! The RD told us he was going to start the men and the five women together so we could work together in the wind (it was now up to 20 gusting 30 MPH). I spotted NH, and was determined to either hold her wheel, or have her hold mine. She and I had discussed the wind after the ITT that morning and agreed the best plan was to stick together. That was based on a five woman field, not 20 or so combined with the guys. When the whistle blew, that plan went right out the window. One of the guys drilled it right after we got up to speed, and away we went. I was thinking "what, we've got six laps of this in this wind, and someone wants to jack up the pace and try to blow this apart - all ready?" NH took off, and I went after her. My team mate was right in front of me, and we stayed attached to the guys. When we hit the bottom of the first climb, we were all together, and managed to stay that way to the steep section (8%). I shifted down, and the chain started jumping on the cog, so I shifted down again, and it caught, and then let go. I had to shift up twice to get it to reengage, and by the time it did, I'd lost the momentum I had and the pack. I in effect had seven speeds, with three missing or unreliable. I gambled on bridging up, even though I was certain I'd need the matches later on, but with the wind, I thought it was worth the effort. I couldn't reattach, though, they were descending by then, I wasn't making up ground on them. Ex and I talked about such a scenario yesterday, and he had suggested that I settle into a pace I knew I could sustain. I did just that. Two guys rode by, I tried to get their wheel, but they were having none of it. Nice of them. I did catch them on the next lap and returned the favor, not seeing them again for the rest of the race (ha). I don't know how things played out in front of me, but I found out that NH was dropped as well, and on the first lap, too - and if I could have stayed with her, we could have had a race. As it was, I was lapped by five men on my last lap, but I did get a second in my age group - by default.

My team mate really shone out there. She won the women's ITT outright, and only four men posted a (slightly) faster time. She was right around 10 minutes. In the road race, she stayed with the men's group for about two laps, and then diced it out with a persistent "new" woman rider was a track coach and marathoner (those people can get up hills, riders or not). She ended up winning the women's road race outright.

Only an okay day for me. I don't feel all that good about it, because my performance in the ITT was not up to par. The road race was sloppy, too, and a mechanical didn't help.

Two silver medals, but they don't feel earned.
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Post up a pic of those medals.

I know what you mean, but it's not like you just showed up, pinned on a number and went for two recovery rides. You didn't mail it in. Stay focused on the big picture. You made it to the national event. Congratulations. I'm qualifying in CT next weekend.
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