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Old 05-17-14, 04:55 AM   #2126
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Great reports and results. Please keep them coming!
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Old 05-17-14, 05:50 AM   #2127
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Dalai, good to hear from you! Are you healed and back on the bike?
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Old 05-17-14, 08:54 PM   #2128
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Not quite... That is why I am especially enjoying all the race reports and successes being posted. Plus fortunate a local free to air station is showing both the tour of Cali and Giro live so able to get my fix vicariously at the moment!

The clavicle was plated a little over 2 weeks ago now. I was back on the trainer within a week and have been rolling the legs over most nights since, but so far only up to 25 minutes @Z1 a night. Planning onto slowly adding time and intensity each week till I see the surgeon again mid June.

As to the earlier conversation about volunteering, please do it when you get the chance. I have been the race director the last couple of years for a couple of state level races run by my club (17km hill climbing and road race on the one weekend). Seeing the other side of the fence and how much work is involved to run just one race; getting traffic management plans organised, applying for permits with Roads and Police, sponsors and volunteers all started over 6 months before the race is eye opening!

I am now far more understanding and tolerant if a race doesn't always run smoothly or it takes little longer for the results to be posted. As most people running events here are all volunteers doing it just because they love the sport!
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Old 05-17-14, 11:07 PM   #2129
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Not quite... That is why I am especially enjoying all the race reports and successes being posted. Plus fortunate a local free to air station is showing both the tour of Cali and Giro live so able to get my fix vicariously at the moment!

The clavicle was plated a little over 2 weeks ago now. I was back on the trainer within a week and have been rolling the legs over most nights since, but so far only up to 25 minutes @Z1 a night. Planning onto slowly adding time and intensity each week till I see the surgeon again mid June.

As to the earlier conversation about volunteering, please do it when you get the chance. I have been the race director the last couple of years for a couple of state level races run by my club (17km hill climbing and road race on the one weekend). Seeing the other side of the fence and how much work is involved to run just one race; getting traffic management plans organised, applying for permits with Roads and Police, sponsors and volunteers all started over 6 months before the race is eye opening!

I am now far more understanding and tolerant if a race doesn't always run smoothly or it takes little longer for the results to be posted. As most people running events here are all volunteers doing it just because they love the sport!
glad to hear you're back on the bike already!
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Old 05-18-14, 04:55 PM   #2130
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This weekend was my first "A" omnium. I love stage races. Omniums too.

Superior Morgul Omnium SW4

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TT - 3rd
Crit - 4th
RR - 2nd
Ommium - 2nd

TT- friday after work, 8.1 miles, hilly. My coach has been helping me a lot and raced 40 minutes before me, so she was back at the start and gave me beta from her race. The beta was that she thought she went out too hard, but it was OK b/c you could recover on the downhill, and to totally give everything after the last turn b/c it was less than 10 minutes. I did what she told me. Passed 4 people. Almost threw up at the end. Perfect. 3rd/20 - continuing my "most improved" streak of TTs.

Crit - Saturday, L shaped crit about half on big wide roads and half in a parking alley in a housing development. Uphill finish, short steep climb after the uphill, long sweeping descent into the long finishing straight. Bad legs in warmup.

Plan was to take some Omnium points in the 2 points primes, sit in, and win the sprint. Failed on that on the first prime, didn't fully commit to the very early sprint. On lap 6 someone just lost her bars or something and jacknifed into the pack, taking herself & 2 of us down and then a third rode over us. Luckily, it was slow speed, no one was really hurt. I got untangled, got my chain back on, and went to the pit for my free lap. Got 4th in the 2nd points prime. Start of the last lap, a girl (and by girl, i mean she is 13 years old, let's call her 13) took off solo and I just. didn't. go. (?) (no one went with her) No legs, no confidence, head not in the game, pissed at 13 (I had words with her about her cornering, this is the same girl who crashed me last year, she wasn't in this crash), whatever. fail. sat in the rest of the lap, position thru the last corner was a little too far back, but took a bunch of places in the sprint (which was messified by lapped riders, I wish they would pull the lapped riders). 3rd in the field sprint, 4th overall.

blah. Finally at like 9:30 pm they post the omnium results, i'm third by 9 points with someone (E) sitting only two points off me - and the top 7 places are 3 points per place.

So, today RR, 26 miles, 2000' climbing- this uses some of the classic Morgul-Bismark course (Coors Classic, American Flyers) but is tweaked this year b/c of road work, we do the big rollers out and back instead of a loop. My category has just (thank god) 2 laps, meaning 3x up "The Wall" - (12% for a short time). I have to hold off E to keep the 3rd step on the omnium podium, and really have little confidence, she is a climbing specialist, I am not. I wake up this morning feeling defeated, hopeless. I was supposed to do well in the crit and get Omnium points there, b/c my RR is not my strong suit. Ok. I whine on Bikeforums, shovel tells me to man up. Cool. Drive down there, fix my shifter which is crooked from yesterday's crash, get on the trainer. OMG, my legs! They showed up!

Race plan is simple - glue myself to E, beat her on the line. Turns out E is cooperating well with this plan, as a hillclimb specialist she doesn't (like to? know how to? ??) draft, and she proceeds to pull the pack around for pretty much the entire race. Her awesome team mate even attacked try to draw some of the competition out to chase, but who pulls the pack back? E! Anyway, I just stick to E like glue for the whole race, never see the wind. I even have a team mate who pulls back the one break attempt (with E in it) for me.

Final trip up the wall, only about 6 of us left, we get mixed in with a men's pack that passes up then slows down, we re-pass, they re-pass, 13 blows by off the front, I stick to E, E fades, I go around, and just BURY myself holding it to the line. 2nd.

Turns out, the gal in 2nd in the Omnium points got 10th, so I moved up into 2nd in the Omnium. 13-year-old takes the win.
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Old 05-18-14, 05:11 PM   #2131
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Wow, way to go valygrl. You are rockin it.
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Old 05-18-14, 05:13 PM   #2132
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Valygrl, That is a great result and smart racing. You looked very pro on last week's podium and it has carried over to this week.
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Old 05-18-14, 05:16 PM   #2133
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valygrl - Excellent! That race took brains and legs, sounds like both were at 100%, maybe a little more!
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Old 05-18-14, 05:45 PM   #2134
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Great work. Really great work. I hesitated to add a third comment to you, but I was right. I was going to say that you were going to finish second. I knew that because I felt that all you needed was just a little push for the confidence.
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Old 05-18-14, 06:28 PM   #2135
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Flippin nice. Glad you were able to continue after the crash too.
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Old 05-18-14, 06:28 PM   #2136
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This weekend was my first "A" omnium. I love stage races. Omniums too.
TT - 3rd
Crit - 4th
RR - 2nd
Ommium - 2nd
Great job, VG! Congrats!
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Old 05-18-14, 06:56 PM   #2137
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Morgul Bismark Crit, 45/4's.
~30/~60
[I didn't do the other 2 stages of the omnium since a) I don't have a TT bike; and b) the RR was very hilly, which is not my gig]

So the crit course is a really interesting course - it's very short, 2' or so long, with turns 1 and 2 being sharp lefts into a narrow alley, followed by an S-turn made up of closely spaced 90-degree turns, which exit on top of a long steep downhill with a fast corner at the bottom followed by a 500 yard wide-road climb to the finish.

First, it's a crit...why put the finish 500 yards up a hill? This is not a hill climb.

I looked at last year's results, and calculated that I don't have the power-to-weight to win a 20" sprint up the hill.

This was very liberating, because it meant that saving my energy for the last sprint would be nonsensical. So, I went out to have some fun.

Pre-race plan was that I thought if I could just get to the S turn first, go through quickly, let my 200 lbs fly down the hill, and take a good line through the turn at the bottom (maybe 50% or more of my competitors are just horrible at this), then I could possibly get away.

Warming up, I set up my trainer at the S turn, and I actually watched a guy in the race before mine execute my plan, and he solo'd for the win.

So I raced aggressively. I rode at the front a few times, and attacked a few times. Twice I got about a 100 yard gap at the beginning of the the narrow alley, but was brought back just before the S-turns. I think I just wasn't strong enough to make it stick, but I was close...

By the last lap, as everybody else was ramping up, I was spent, and I finished off the back.

This was a very fun crit for me. It was really fun being aggressive. It was also really fun when every now and then I could get clean lines through the challenging corners and close/create gaps. I learned a bit, and though my finishing place sucked, I think I was not too far off of getting the glory...

I have a good sprint, so the obvious beginner tactic is to conserve until the end, but I'm pretty sure that's not the most fun way to race, at least on interesting courses.
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I love hilly criteriums. Nice work.
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Old 05-18-14, 07:28 PM   #2139
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Very well done, valygrl! 3 times up The Wall is impressive indeed. Strong stuff.
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Fun is good, rapwithtom. Nicely done, and I'm glad you liked that course. Not my cup of tea at all.
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Thanks for the nice words, everyone.

Shovel, thanks for not saying i was going to get second, I would have waved it off and taken "dig deep" along with it. That was exactly what I needed to hear, thank you.

Good job, rapwithtom.... I agree completely that it's more fun to race agressively and "do stuff" in your races... and that the sad fact is at the level you & I race at, most of the stuff does not work, so if you want to win the race, the tactic with the best odds is to conserve. Also, if you have team mates and you can all somehow manage to execute your plan, doing stuff has a better chance of working. I had a long talk with my coach about this recently... essentially you do what you did - pick the races you want to win and the races you want to try stuff in, and don't count on trying stuff to be a winning strategy.

I found that fast corner to be rather disconcerting with that hole, a little gravel and a puddle. My race definitely was taking an un-neccessarily tight line through it. Why not use the whole road?
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Old 05-18-14, 11:20 PM   #2143
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nice work, valygrl....esp with getting your head back in post-crash! i hope one day to return to do that event. are they returning to the traditional RR course next year?
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Old 05-19-14, 03:37 AM   #2144
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valygrl - In your honor, I re-watched American Flyers last night.
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Old 05-19-14, 04:00 AM   #2145
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Great work valygrl!
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Old 05-19-14, 06:35 AM   #2146
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Old 05-19-14, 07:37 AM   #2148
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WOw, thanks everyone!

Teton - yes, they say they are returning to the historic RR course next year. This year Hwy 93 is under construction and they can't use it. The good news on that is that by the end of the season they are supposed to have full size shoulders on that road and a bike underpass for the MTBers. With that and the new pavement, that descent should be a lot safer next year. They totally changed the TT course, and I'm not sure which they will do next year. I like this year's better, because it does not include "the traffic circle of death" as it came to be known. This is this year's course, not ideal because it still uses busy roads during rush hour, but less dangerous than the old one.

chuck - um, sorry?
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Valygrl - the course they raced on in the movie is the original version of the course you did the road race on.
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WOw, thanks everyone!

Teton - yes, they say they are returning to the historic RR course next year. This year Hwy 93 is under construction and they can't use it. The good news on that is that by the end of the season they are supposed to have full size shoulders on that road and a bike underpass for the MTBers. With that and the new pavement, that descent should be a lot safer next year. They totally changed the TT course, and I'm not sure which they will do next year. I like this year's better, because it does not include "the traffic circle of death" as it came to be known. This is this year's course, not ideal because it still uses busy roads during rush hour, but less dangerous than the old one.

chuck - um, sorry?
yeah...a few years back i was doing my TT at 5pm or 5:30. there was a huge line of cars backed up for the traffic circle (traffic was being held for it). I was descending cautiously as there was a crosswind and almost no shoulder. Definitely freaked me out. It was definitely an all-out effort for me, though. I threw up a bit at the top of the wall but refused to stop pedaling until I was back up to speed on the backside of a roller. there were a dozen photogs there that day but pictures never surfaced. I was bummed.

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