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    Clinic doc says either a broken finger joint or a popped tendon, x-rays inconclusive. I refused the CT because they would splint it either way. I am a little short of fingers on that hand so no road riding until it heals. We did not x-ray my groin because I have full range of motion both sides with no pain during manipulation. Standing up and walking is painful. He made me flex my adductors inwards and that hurt a lot. At least a week of rest for that. I will see my ortho if the pain continues. Longsjo is out unless I can officiate. I can't think about returning to racing until I know when I can ride without pain.

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    Heal well, my friend. Hope you do get to officiate...especially since I won't have to bear the brunt of your ire.
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    Thanks folk.

    I had my front wheel wash in the crosswalk early in the race. It gave me a fright and caused me to ride timidly until about 5 to go. Not sure how I rode out of a front wheel wash. A lot of guys took the way inside line onto the sidewalk to avoid most of it.

    I crashed from a position where I was sure I'd win the field sprint. The guy who might be a better sprinter than me (younger too!) won a couple of field primes (2 away) and I think that took his best sprint from him. He didn't go on to win the field sprint. That would have given me a podium and a bit more enthusiasm than I have right now. I'm mostly fine. My back hurts a bit. I have a ton of scrape on my back and shoulder, but none of that bled. My knee hurt pretty bad yesterday, but seems better today. I have some wrist pain. All in all, since I crashed at the pointy end of the field it's good I didn't get runned over or something.

    Thankfully my son was with me and bandaged me up. We drove out to the beach afterwards and hung by the water in the dark. Ted's cheeseburgers on the way home Wednesday.

    Fitchburg for me too is off. Assuming I feel ok when I do openers tomorrow I'll head to Okemo Saturday morning and do another hill climb.

    My wife is a bit worn out. I may be too.

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    Gary - Maybe use this time making lemonade out of the lemons you were handed in the crash, and just take a break? Sounds like you're ready for one. Cheeseburgers are an excellent way to start the healing...
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    Of course by the trusty predictor I'm the number 2 rider for fitchburg. Ranked just ahead of a former pro. Maybe I should stick with crit racing!

    Chuck, I have a break over the holiday to get ready for the state crit. If I can get some hard work in this weekend as scheduled that would be preferable to just shutting things down. I'm not turned off on racing really, just getting crashed. I'm wildly motivated to suffer.

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    Heal up man. When I saw that you landed on that elbow I was scared for you but it seems like it's superficial. That's a good thing.

    I didn't notice the slippery crosswalk paint until you mentioned it afterwards. If someone kicked their rear wheel out that would explain why I didn't see my wreck coming. It all happened so fast. I had a clean line entering the corner.

    I feel a lot better today than yesterday. One day at a time.

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    Gary - Understood, rock on!

    I feel a lot better today than yesterday. One day at a time.
    shovel - Good to hear!
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    Oh, you guys....

    I am glad to see that your spirits are good, but, oh.

    Gary and Shovel, heal quickly and completely...sending you wishes!

    Shovel, I was hoping my comment elsewhere about your bib number would shrug off any horrors. Nothing more to say about that.

    Hugs to you guys!
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    I really dread reading this thread any more.
    Heal up guys.

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    Hey, it was a racing accident. Gary's, maybe not so much.

    Bike damage:

    Broken Specialized Toupe Pro
    Cracked rear Zipp 404 (GGGGGGGGGGGGGG)
    Gouged but working 7970 levers
    Trashed 7970 hoods
    Torn bar tape

    It was looking OK until I found the cracked rim.

    On the positive side, I can work the front brake with the splint on, so once I can do a few days on the trainer I can try a road ride.

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    ouch. you broke a rim? I did that last year on a flat. Sorry, that stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Clinic doc says either a broken finger joint or a popped tendon, x-rays inconclusive. I refused the CT because they would splint it either way. I am a little short of fingers on that hand so no road riding until it heals. We did not x-ray my groin because I have full range of motion both sides with no pain during manipulation. Standing up and walking is painful. He made me flex my adductors inwards and that hurt a lot. At least a week of rest for that. I will see my ortho if the pain continues. Longsjo is out unless I can officiate. I can't think about returning to racing until I know when I can ride without pain.
    damn. watch out for that groin thing. i think it was LAJ who was walking around for a week before realizing he had a fracture. i know i was HOPING i was just bruised.

    obviously a lot can shut down in that region with a big impact. with my injury i've realized how much things overlap between the leg, hip and pelvis. so weird how pain that pops up in one spot can have the root cause in another.

    that really sucks, shovel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Hey, it was a racing accident. Gary's, maybe not so much.

    Bike damage:

    Broken Specialized Toupe Pro
    Cracked rear Zipp 404 (GGGGGGGGGGGGGG)
    Gouged but working 7970 levers
    Trashed 7970 hoods
    Torn bar tape

    It was looking OK until I found the cracked rim.

    On the positive side, I can work the front brake with the splint on, so once I can do a few days on the trainer I can try a road ride.
    zipp's not so bad about replacing broken rims. of course it costs $$, but it was something like $250 the last time i had a friend break one. (he broke a high-mileage 808 (daily driver for him...kinda silly) by nailing a pothole.)

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    Believe me I was thinking about Teton and LAJ when I was walking back to my car after dinner that night. The doc said that if he could manipulate each leg without pain then there was no need to X-ray the pelvis. I will be seeing my ortho for the finger and I can ask him. The groin gets better every day. This morning I woke up with minimal pain all around.

    I think it's closer to $350 all in for a Zipp replacement rim but that's silly for a 2005 era non dimpled 404. I paid $500 for the set with a clean low mileage 7900 11-21 cassette. I did find a clean older wheel that I could swap the rim out of, but I could also start the march towards 11 speed. I'm looking at both alternatives. I can always race on the 50mm clinchers.

    The rim cracked right in the brake track next to the tire bed, about 10mm long. If you've seen the pictures of the pileup I'm sure it was from someone running over it when it was on the ground.

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    tough to repair sometging that old. zipp told me no.

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    I have but one request.
    As I've come to "know" a lot of you will everybody PLEASE stay upright and safe this weekend.
    I do not want to come in on Monday and read dag gum damage reports; enough already.

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    ok.

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    It was indeed weird. I stood up though I had a muscle pull, as it was pain from groin to ankle, but not the actual joint. That's why I refused the ambulance, and just wanted help to my truck. Once stuff wore down, like adrenalin, and maybe some shock, I knew it was a tad worse. Thank heavens I didn't wait a week, as my hip would be dead weight on the left side, I fear. The way I was able to crutch on into the hospital, even the doctor was surprised I had a broken leg. "I don't believe it, but you actually have a broken femur". I was able to get surgery that evening, luckily enough.

    My bike sounds like yours, shovelhd, less the rim, which does totally suck. Mine isn't true, but not so far out that they can't make it right. Dang helmet costs as much as the rest of the bits, not that I am complaining one bit about that.

    Just heal well all!

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    State tt champs. Sw3. 7th/9.

    40k TT, flat as a pancake. Windy. Hot. Painful. Two u-turns and I screwed them both up.
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    Flat TT in CO? They must've searched long and hard for that.

    180s on a TT bike must be extra-tough. At the state SOG last year I used a road bike for the TT. The guy who started a minute behind me on a TT bike passed me right before the 180, locked up his rear wheel coming up to the cone, and I passed him on the inside going around the cone. Of course, that lasted about 50 meters before he passed me again.

    So there are six women who can brag that they beat the state RR champ in a TT. Bet that'll change for the better next year!
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    VG you've had a great run so far this year. Be proud of your accomplishments and go get the rest of the season.

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    Oh thanks guys. I"m not really either surprised or disappointed in the result, I was just super tired when I wrote that. I'm still super tired, actually! I set a new 60 minute all time watts record for myself. Try not to laugh: 168.
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    Nicely done, valygl.

    Wife booted me out of the house yesterday, so I went up there to visit. It was less windy than I expected, compared to down here. Either way, a tough road, and again, well done.

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    I watched races and yelled at people to ride faster today.

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    NorCal Time Trial Championships - Tandem 110+



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