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    Idiot Emeritus sarals's Avatar
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    Are those wood veneer disk covers, or do they just look like it? Pretty bike!
    Racer Ex..."Don't know if the shop is under new ownership. If not feel free to shoplift stuff and break bottles in his parking lot."

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    Thanks guys. Took it to the local outdoor velodrome tonight to make sure I'd bolted it together okay and see how a front disc felt... was a handful when the wind picked up. IP on Saturday is fortunately indoors.

    The extensions feed through the basebar Racer Ex. I've trimmed some off the ends but could trim a few more cm at some point.

    Not wood veneer sarals. They are old Soviet technology - tensioned kevlar sheets bonded to an alu rims and ti hubs. Completely hollow and sounds like a drum when tapped. I was hunting for double disks for a while and these came up locally on ebay for a reasonable price.

    Close up of the valve hole and kevlar sheets.

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    Old Faithful


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    @Dalai, I remember wheels like that from a long time ago. I've never ridden double-disc wheels; indoors or outdoors. Good luck this weekend.
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    @HOWSER, nice collection.
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    New road bike for next season.



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    Is that a Turbomatic on the the Co-Motion? I've got them on a pair of bikes, like them a lot.
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    Nice stables HOWSER and stevemtbr! Only thing missing are your fixies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    @HOWSER, nice collection.
    I'll say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalai View Post
    Not wood veneer sarals. They are old Soviet technology - tensioned kevlar sheets bonded to an alu rims and ti hubs. Completely hollow and sounds like a drum when tapped. I was hunting for double disks for a while and these came up locally on ebay for a reasonable price.
    Pretty cool! I like it. When you mentioned "drum", I had a thought...nah...not a good idea....(using old bass drum heads as disk covers)...
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    Thanks guys.

    Dalai, love that ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    @Dalai, I remember wheels like that from a long time ago. I've never ridden double-disc wheels; indoors or outdoors. Good luck this weekend.
    I've done both. Outdoors they can be very scary if the wind picks up at all.

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    Hi, so this isn't really a race rig, but it was at one time in a different incarnation:


    Steel is real :


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    Ooooh, sweet! Wish my steel bike were that clean.
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    Cleave, I love the way you take care of your equipment. Absolutely pristine!
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    revchuck and sarals, thanks for the kind words. I have been meaning to build this bike for about a year but I was "inspired" to finish it because my wife's cousin from NY was visiting and wanted to borrow a bike. She really liked the bike. I haven't ridden it yet but plan to do so this coming Saturday. Hopefully I'll get inspired to rebuild my Shogun Kazé (same as Racer Ex) soon.
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    Cleave,
    That is one beautiful rig you have, every detail is right on the money. That colourway is just right and the quality Columbus tubing says a lot about the bike and its owner. Very well done, sir, very well done.

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    I rode back from the finish of the Santiago Canyon TT with Cleave and I commented that the rear cassette on his Shiv looked new. In fact, it sparkled like a fine jewelry at Tiffany's. I think he has a bunch of elfs that run around his garage cleaning bikes.
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    Cleave, you certainly have a way with bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
    Cleave,
    That is one beautiful rig you have, every detail is right on the money. That colourway is just right and the quality Columbus tubing says a lot about the bike and its owner. Very well done, sir, very well done.

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    Thanks, Bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    I rode back from the finish of the Santiago Canyon TT with Cleave and I commented that the rear cassette on his Shiv looked new. In fact, it sparkled like a fine jewelry at Tiffany's. I think he has a bunch of elfs that run around his garage cleaning bikes.
    Elves my a$$. My cuticles beg to differ. BTW, isn't there a fractional improvement in mechanical efficiency by having a clean drive train?

    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    Cleave, you certainly have a way with bikes.
    I view bike building as an art form. It's less so now with "plastic" bikes and parts that "snap" in place. Part of the art was adjusting the pre-load in bearings so that they spun just right when you put load on them. Now you have cartridge bearings and every bolt has a torque setting so that you don't break it. I still manage to break bolts with my torque wrench.

    The true art is still in building metallic frames and some custom frame builders do some cool things with carbon.

    Here's a bit more on the history of the bike. Back when my club got started, we somehow got a small sponsorship in the form of a good discount on Stowe frames. Robert Stowe matured his frame building skills working for Ben Serotta in during the late 1970s and early 1980s. Then he ventured out on his own. This 1990 Stowe Triad was my training / mid-week race bike. However, in early 1992 my eldest was born and my riding and race time was pretty minimal for the next decade (which included the birth of my second son).

    In 1997, for my 40th birthday, my wife bought me a titanium Bianchi and I tried selling the Stowe. I've shown it and loaned it to people with it's original Shimano 7-speed group -- a mixture of Dura-Ace and Santé -- but I never managed to sell it. It's been in my garage, partially disassembled, for at least 10 years. When I was rebuilding and building new bikes last winter, I realized I had enough parts to build another bike. It's taken me this long to follow through on that realization.
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    I may bring the Shogun out to Piru.

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    Someone explain how a 40KTT equates to a "fun family atmosphere".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    Someone explain how a 40KTT equates to a "fun family atmosphere".
    Festively colored air sickness bags at the finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Festively colored air sickness bags at the finish.


    my team mates have learned to give me a few minutes alone after a TT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    I may bring the Shogun out to Piru.
    I'll be at Piru with some number of teammates (maybe just one). Still playing with Shiv position. It definitely won't be skinsuit weather. Hope to see you there. Instead of a Merckx category, Tren should have a Lemond category for you. Maybe I'll get the Shogun together for the January race.
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